Can I run Solaris x86 within Linux?
I'm getting a Sun W1100z workstation and am planning on loading SuSE, XP, Solaris and Java Desktop. Is there software I can get that will allow me to run any of those programs within SuSE? From what I understand Solaris 10 will allow a user to run multiple instances of itself. That sounds kind of cool! Tom -- Tom Nielsen Neuro Logic Systems, Inc. 1.805.389.5435 x18 www.neuro-logic.com
Hey Tom You might want to check out VMWare Workstation. It basically emulates a second set of hardware for the other OS to run on. There a versions of VMWare which run on Linux, and there are ones for Windows. On top of it you can run different Linux distros, Windows, Dos, and FreeBSD. I'm not quite sure about Solaris x86, but I don't see why you couldn't get it to run. I haven't tried it on SuSE yet, but I used it to run XP on top of Fedora Core 1 before, and it worked out pretty well. I even had Adobe After Effects running on it, but I didn't use that for much... You can get more info at http://www.vmware.com. You have to pay for the software, but you can download a free 30 day trial. Cheers, Ben On Mon, 2004-08-16 at 17:01, Tom Nielsen wrote:
I'm getting a Sun W1100z workstation and am planning on loading SuSE, XP, Solaris and Java Desktop. Is there software I can get that will allow me to run any of those programs within SuSE? From what I understand Solaris 10 will allow a user to run multiple instances of itself. That sounds kind of cool!
Tom -- Tom Nielsen Neuro Logic Systems, Inc. 1.805.389.5435 x18 www.neuro-logic.com
Thanks for the tip! Tom On Tuesday 17 August 2004 9:18 am, Ben Sheron wrote:
You can get more info at http://www.vmware.com. You have to pay for the software, but you can download a free 30 day trial.
Cheers,
Ben
-- Tom Nielsen Neuro Logic Systems, Inc. 1.805.389.5435 x18 www.neuro-logic.com
On Tuesday 17 August 2004 9:18 am, Ben Sheron wrote:
You can get more info at http://www.vmware.com. You have to pay for the software, but you can download a free 30 day trial.
Cheers,
Ben
You do need a fairly beefy machine to run OS-in-OS though :) I tried WinXP inside SuSE 9.1 on a Celeron 366 with VMWare... UGH! (despite the 10 hour install time on XP, it DID work...) (Yeah yeah yeah... I know-- Upgrade your laptop. No $$$ - Donations of old junk laptops accepted - Will pay shipping :)
I've run it on my dual AMD MP 2800 box. I would say that if you intend to use VMWare, and you have an idea of this before you build your box, you should look into a dual proc setup. It just provides better multitasking. But I think it should run on a single proc machine, but I would say you should have at least a 1 GHz proc, and 256 RAM. (Although this is probably pushing it a bit.) Ben On Tue, 2004-08-17 at 14:48, Steve Kratz wrote:
On Tuesday 17 August 2004 9:18 am, Ben Sheron wrote:
You can get more info at http://www.vmware.com. You have to pay for the software, but you can download a free 30 day trial.
Cheers,
Ben
You do need a fairly beefy machine to run OS-in-OS though :) I tried WinXP inside SuSE 9.1 on a Celeron 366 with VMWare... UGH! (despite the 10 hour install time on XP, it DID work...)
(Yeah yeah yeah... I know-- Upgrade your laptop. No $$$ - Donations of old junk laptops accepted - Will pay shipping :)
On Tuesday 17 August 2004 12:19 pm, Ben Sheron wrote:
But I think it should run on a single proc machine, but I would say you should have at least a 1 GHz proc, and 256 RAM. (Although this is probably pushing it a bit.)
I'm going to be using a Sun W1100z workstation with an Athlon 64 process and 1gb of ram. I hope it's enough. -- ---------------------------- Tom Nielsen Neuro Logic Systems, Inc. 805.389.5435 x18 www.neuro-logic.com ----------------------------
On Wednesday 18 August 2004 01:26, Tom Nielsen wrote:
I'm going to be using a Sun W1100z workstation with an Athlon 64 process and 1gb of ram. I hope it's enough.
Should be fine, power-wise. I wouldn't skimp on the RAM, though...personally I like to give a gig of RAM to the guest OS - but it depends on how hard you're going to push it... Cheers, J.C. -- John Coldrick www.axyzfx.com Axyz Animation Houdini/Renderman/Discreet 425 Adelaide St W 416-504-0425 Toronto, ON Canada jc@axyzfx.com M5V 1S4 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Reisner's Rule of Conceptual Inertia: If you think big enough, you'll never have to do it.
I think that'll be fine. Although, I'm not sure as to how well it will perform on 64 bit. It should run, but I don't know if you'll be able to take full advantage of your proc. Keep us informed. Ben On Tue, 2004-08-17 at 22:26, Tom Nielsen wrote:
On Tuesday 17 August 2004 12:19 pm, Ben Sheron wrote:
But I think it should run on a single proc machine, but I would say you should have at least a 1 GHz proc, and 256 RAM. (Although this is probably pushing it a bit.)
I'm going to be using a Sun W1100z workstation with an Athlon 64 process and 1gb of ram. I hope it's enough. -- ---------------------------- Tom Nielsen Neuro Logic Systems, Inc. 805.389.5435 x18 www.neuro-logic.com ----------------------------
I'm going for Solaris 10 which is a 64-bit OS. T On Thursday 19 August 2004 07:46 am, Ben Sheron wrote:
I think that'll be fine. Although, I'm not sure as to how well it will perform on 64 bit. It should run, but I don't know if you'll be able to take full advantage of your proc. Keep us informed.
Ben
On Tue, 2004-08-17 at 22:26, Tom Nielsen wrote:
On Tuesday 17 August 2004 12:19 pm, Ben Sheron wrote:
But I think it should run on a single proc machine, but I would say you should have at least a 1 GHz proc, and 256 RAM. (Although this is probably pushing it a bit.)
I'm going to be using a Sun W1100z workstation with an Athlon 64 process and 1gb of ram. I hope it's enough. -- ---------------------------- Tom Nielsen Neuro Logic Systems, Inc. 805.389.5435 x18 www.neuro-logic.com ----------------------------
-- ---------------------------- Tom Nielsen Neuro Logic Systems, Inc. 805.389.5435 x18 www.neuro-logic.com ----------------------------
* Tom Nielsen
I'm going for Solaris 10 which is a 64-bit OS.
Last I heard
Solaris X for x86/opteron was still 32bit. A 64bit version is in the make
though.
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Gerhard,
On Tuesday 17 August 2004 9:18 am, Ben Sheron wrote:
You can get more info at http://www.vmware.com. You have to pay for the software, but you can download a free 30 day trial.
Cheers,
Ben
Looks like it "should" work. Am I going to have a lot of tinkering to do, or is it pretty much read to go out of the box? -- Tom Nielsen Neuro Logic Systems, Inc. 1.805.389.5435 x18 www.neuro-logic.com
Tom Nielsen wrote:
On Tuesday 17 August 2004 9:18 am, Ben Sheron wrote:
You can get more info at http://www.vmware.com. You have to pay for the software, but you can download a free 30 day trial.
Cheers,
Ben
Looks like it "should" work. Am I going to have a lot of tinkering to do, or is it pretty much read to go out of the box?
Many years ago vmware ran fine and was quite easy to install - back at early Win95, it replaced Sun WABI/WFW 3.11 on my Linux box. I gather there may be an issue with the latest kernels and a workaround is available. I was impressed as it appeared to be a separate box that could use the underlying Linux box as a print and file server and use the ethernet as though it was another box sitting on the hub with it's own IP address - Linux doing ipforwarding, I also used it to dial in to work using the modem. I stopped using it when it lagged behind what I was doing kernel-wise. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce .... Hamradio G3VBV and keen Flyer =====LINUX ONLY USED HERE=====
Tom, On Tuesday 17 August 2004 14:16, Tom Nielsen wrote:
On Tuesday 17 August 2004 9:18 am, Ben Sheron wrote:
You can get more info at http://www.vmware.com. You have to pay for the software, but you can download a free 30 day trial.
Cheers,
Ben
Looks like it "should" work. Am I going to have a lot of tinkering to do, or is it pretty much read to go out of the box?
I would not call it a turnkey solution. You have to configure how the guest system relates to the host, mostly in terms of disk allocation, networking and RAM allocation. It's very flexible and very powerful, which is another way of saying it can be daunting to get right. It is most certainly not for the technologically naive or faint-of-heart. Consider this: The virtual machine created by VMware has its own BIOS and its own complement of (virtual) hardware. All in all, it's a tech-head's dream, but if you just want some kind of plug-and-play, I'd think twice.
-- Tom Nielsen
Randall Schulz
Well, here's a little rundown of what I did to get it to work. After downloading the RPM and installing it, I ran vmware-config.pl as root. This script makes it easy to set up the program. It asks you some questions about how you want the virtual machine to access the host's file systems, how the networking should be done, etc. I chose to have the virtual machine not do network address translation (it gets its own IP!), and to use SMB to share files with my Linux host (for running XP as the guest OS). I ran into a bit of a snag, though, as it needed a kernel module I didn't have. It offered to compile this for me. However, since my kernel at the time was compiled with a different version of GCC than what I had installed, it warned that stability on my box might be low. I've had a few crashes, but they haven't been due to VMWare (see my other thread for that...). Overall I'd say it's worth a try. Ben On Tue, 2004-08-17 at 15:15, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Tom,
On Tuesday 17 August 2004 14:16, Tom Nielsen wrote:
On Tuesday 17 August 2004 9:18 am, Ben Sheron wrote:
You can get more info at http://www.vmware.com. You have to pay for the software, but you can download a free 30 day trial.
Cheers,
Ben
Looks like it "should" work. Am I going to have a lot of tinkering to do, or is it pretty much read to go out of the box?
I would not call it a turnkey solution. You have to configure how the guest system relates to the host, mostly in terms of disk allocation, networking and RAM allocation.
It's very flexible and very powerful, which is another way of saying it can be daunting to get right. It is most certainly not for the technologically naive or faint-of-heart.
Consider this: The virtual machine created by VMware has its own BIOS and its own complement of (virtual) hardware.
All in all, it's a tech-head's dream, but if you just want some kind of plug-and-play, I'd think twice.
-- Tom Nielsen
Randall Schulz
Ben, On Tuesday 17 August 2004 09:18, Ben Sheron wrote:
Hey Tom
You might want to check out VMWare Workstation. It basically emulates a second set of hardware for the other OS to run on. There a versions of VMWare which run on Linux, and there are ones for Windows. On top of it you can run different Linux distros, Windows, Dos, and FreeBSD. I'm not quite sure about Solaris x86, but I don't see why you couldn't get it to run. I haven't tried it on SuSE yet, but I used it to run XP on top of Fedora Core 1 before, and it worked out pretty well. I even had Adobe After Effects running on it, but I didn't use that for much...
I've used VMWare. It is outstanding software, though fairly expensive. I'm pretty sure Solaris x86 can be run in a virtual machine. There are both "supported" and "unsupported" guest operating systems, but many unsupported OS-es will work perfectly under VMware. VMWare runs a News server and hosts several news groups where users can share expertise. I'd recommand gobs of RAM and the fastest CPU you can get your hands on, of course. Naturally, you have to have enough mass storage to accommodate the needs of all installed operating systems.
You can get more info at http://www.vmware.com. You have to pay for the software, but you can download a free 30 day trial.
If you're a member (student, staff, faculty) of an educational institution, you might be eligible for academic pricing, which is a significant discount.
Cheers,
Ben
Randall Schulz
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