Has anyone tried using fglrxconfig on an ATI Radeon 7000? I've been poking around trying to find ways to make the multihead part of the card work (using SuSE9.2), and everything I have found so far seem to point to fglrxconfig and needing a newer video card :-( A newer card isn't really much of an option since this is my work computer. So.. anyone have any suggestions? Is it a lost cause to try to get dualhead working on this older ATI card in SuSE9.2?
On Friday, 28 January 2005 07:37, Clayton Cornell wrote:
Has anyone tried using fglrxconfig on an ATI Radeon 7000? I've been poking around trying to find ways to make the multihead part of the card work (using SuSE9.2), and everything I have found so far seem to point to fglrxconfig and needing a newer video card :-(
A newer card isn't really much of an option since this is my work computer.
So.. anyone have any suggestions? Is it a lost cause to try to get dualhead working on this older ATI card in SuSE9.2?
You might try the Linux driver forum at rage3d http://www.rage3d.com/board/forumdisplay.php?f=88 There have been a couple of threads there discussing what needs to be done to get it working. Not sure if the 7000 was one of the cards discussed.
Clayton Cornell wrote:
Has anyone tried using fglrxconfig on an ATI Radeon 7000? I've been poking around trying to find ways to make the multihead part of the card work (using SuSE9.2), and everything I have found so far seem to point to fglrxconfig and needing a newer video card :-(
A newer card isn't really much of an option since this is my work computer.
So.. anyone have any suggestions? Is it a lost cause to try to get dualhead working on this older ATI card in SuSE9.2? That card should be fully supported by the open source driver, no need for the fglrx binary driver. Doesn't sax2 set it up? Where does it fail? -- Joe Morris New Tribes Mission Email Address: Joe_Morris@ntm.org Registered Linux user 231871
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 08:49:10 -0600, Joe Morris (NTM) <Joe_Morris@ntm.org> wrote:
Clayton Cornell wrote:
Has anyone tried using fglrxconfig on an ATI Radeon 7000? I've been poking around trying to find ways to make the multihead part of the card work (using SuSE9.2), and everything I have found so far seem to point to fglrxconfig and needing a newer video card :-(
A newer card isn't really much of an option since this is my work computer.
So.. anyone have any suggestions? Is it a lost cause to try to get dualhead working on this older ATI card in SuSE9.2? That card should be fully supported by the open source driver, no need for the fglrx binary driver. Doesn't sax2 set it up? Where does it fail? --
It is working in normal mode. I want MultiHead to work though. I have the convenience of having 2 monitors on my desk here at work. I use/need the extra desktop realestate for my work. (I hate saying this, but when I was working on Windows I used the DualHead thing all the time) Now I've converted 100% to Linux, and miss my 2 monitor thing. I've mucked about with the stuff I found in the DRI Wiki, and just managed to screw up X. But.. I made a backup :-) SO I'm back in my old config again.. it works, but no dual head. SAX2 says that my video card (ATI Radeon 7000 with 2 standard monitor out connections) isn't capable of multihead - even though it is.
It is working in normal mode. I want MultiHead to work though. According to the online man page http://wiki.x.org/X11R6.8.0/doc/radeon.4.html for radeon (which should be the driver for that card), "*radeon* is a Xorg driver for ATI RADEON
Clayton Cornell wrote: based video cards. It contains full support for 8, 15, 16 and 24 bit pixel depths, dual-head setup, flat panel, hardware 2D acceleration, hardware 3D acceleration (except R300 and IGP series cards), hardware cursor, XV extension, Xinerama extension."
I have the convenience of having 2 monitors on my desk here at work. I use/need the extra desktop realestate for my work. (I hate saying this, but when I was working on Windows I used the DualHead thing all the time) Now I've converted 100% to Linux, and miss my 2 monitor thing.
What you are using AFAIK is Xinerama, which it says is supported. What happens when you try to add the second monitor via sax2 or yast?
I've mucked about with the stuff I found in the DRI Wiki, and just managed to screw up X. I would think that would be for XFree86, but 9.2 uses X.org. But.. I made a backup :-) SO I'm back in my old config again.. it works, but no dual head.
SAX2 says that my video card (ATI Radeon 7000 with 2 standard monitor out connections) isn't capable of multihead - even though it is. Are both monitors connected? Have you tried changing any of the options under the expert tab for your driver to enable xinerama? AFAIK, this should work "out of the box" with that card. IIRC, I had it working on an 8.2 machine, and I would think if X.org says it is supported, it should work in 9.2. -- Joe Morris New Tribes Mission Email Address: Joe_Morris@ntm.org Registered Linux user 231871
According to the online man page http://wiki.x.org/X11R6.8.0/doc/radeon.4.html for radeon (which should be the driver for that card),
That is the driver named in my xorg.config. And that page is the one I've been referencing to try and manually add in the dual head functionality. Maybe I've got Friday-itus... dunno... but it's not working Anyway in SAX2/YaST it says I can a single vid card, and IDs it as an ATI Radeon VE. I dug around and that seems to match to the Radeon 7000. So, that part is right. I go into the expert config (in SAX2) and there is a dropdown for Primary and Secondary display. There is no "parameter" I can set though (from SAX2) to enable Xinerama or MergedFB (lots of other params). I tried editing the xorg.config file directly and adding in the options as described in the man page, and nothing happens when I restart X... that or it dies completely and I have to recover from my backup file. If I type startx from the command line (after a failed startup), X attempts to launch, and then it dumps back to the command line. Now here's where it really gets fuzzy for me... in the stdout stuff before the error messages, it says "Using /etc/X11/X86Config". Even stranger... when I fire up SAX2 and make some changes and save, it saves to XF86Config... not xorg.config. ??? Huh? This is definitely 9.2 I'm working with... not 9.1. What's up with that? --------------------------------- -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6486 2005-01-28 16:46 XF86Config -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5530 2005-01-28 16:46 XF86Config.backup -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4716 2005-01-27 14:51 XF86Config.install -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5530 2005-01-28 16:40 XF86Config.saxsave -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5530 2005-01-28 16:36 XF86Config.YaST2save -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5530 2005-01-28 15:42 xorg.backup -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6486 2005-01-28 16:44 xorg.config -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5530 2005-01-28 15:44 xorg.config~ -----------------------------
Are both monitors connected? Have you tried changing any of the options under the expert tab for your driver to enable xinerama? AFAIK, this should work "out of the box" with that card. IIRC, I had it working on an 8.2 machine, and I would think if X.org says it is supported, it should work in 9.2.
Definitely connected :-) I have the desktop showing twice... once on the left monitor and once on the right monitor. Can't find the right thing to turn on Xinerama in the SAX Expert options... The card works fine for single display, but definitely did not work "out of the box" for dual display. C.
Clayton Cornell wrote:
I go into the expert config (in SAX2) and there is a dropdown for Primary and Secondary display. There is no "parameter" I can set though (from SAX2) to enable Xinerama or MergedFB (lots of other params). What does xdpyinfo give you? I tried editing the xorg.config file directly and adding in the options as described in the man page, and nothing happens when I restart X... that or it dies completely and I have to recover from my backup file.
Which config file is it using? Maybe it is not making an effect because it is using the other config file.
If I type startx from the command line (after a failed startup), X attempts to launch, and then it dumps back to the command line. Now here's where it really gets fuzzy for me... in the stdout stuff before the error messages, it says "Using /etc/X11/X86Config". Even stranger... when I fire up SAX2 and make some changes and save, it saves to XF86Config... not xorg.config. ??? Huh? This is definitely 9.2 I'm working with... not 9.1. What's up with that? --------------------------------- -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6486 2005-01-28 16:46 XF86Config -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5530 2005-01-28 16:46 XF86Config.backup -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4716 2005-01-27 14:51 XF86Config.install -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5530 2005-01-28 16:40 XF86Config.saxsave -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5530 2005-01-28 16:36 XF86Config.YaST2save -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5530 2005-01-28 15:42 xorg.backup -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6486 2005-01-28 16:44 xorg.config -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5530 2005-01-28 15:44 xorg.config~ -----------------------------
On my 9.2, which was an update of 9.1, my /etc/X11/xorg.config is a symlink to XF86Config. Maybe that is the problem, Yast and sax2 are using a different config file than you are using. -- Joe Morris New Tribes Mission Email Address: Joe_Morris@ntm.org Registered Linux user 231871
On Friday 28 January 2005 11:02 am, Clayton Cornell wrote: [...]
Anyway in SAX2/YaST it says I can a single vid card, and IDs it as an ATI Radeon VE. I dug around and that seems to match to the Radeon 7000. So, that part is right. I go into the expert config (in SAX2) and there is a dropdown for Primary and Secondary display. There is no "parameter" I can set though (from SAX2) to enable Xinerama or MergedFB (lots of other params). I tried editing the xorg.config file directly and adding in the options as described in the man page, and nothing happens when I restart X... that or it dies completely and I have to recover from my backup file.
If I type startx from the command line (after a failed startup), X attempts to launch, and then it dumps back to the command line. Now here's where it really gets fuzzy for me... in the stdout stuff before the error messages, it says "Using /etc/X11/X86Config". Even stranger... when I fire up SAX2 and make some changes and save, it saves to XF86Config... not xorg.config. ??? Huh? This is definitely 9.2 I'm working with... not 9.1. What's up with that? ---------------------------------
Clayton, Try this: rename both your xorg.conf file & your X86Config (don't delete them for now, just rename them so you start fresh, no old config files) ctrl-alt-F1 login as root type: init 3 type: sax2 set things up, see if you are offered dual head setup this time configure, check everything, test, finalize back to terminal prompt hopefully things are working right now, so: init 5 back to your GUI good luck, Lee -- --- KMail v1.7.2 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 "Don't let the fear of striking out keep you from playing the game!"
rename both your xorg.conf file & your X86Config (don't delete them for now, just rename them so you start fresh, no old config files) ctrl-alt-F1 login as root type: init 3 type: sax2 set things up, see if you are offered dual head setup this time configure, check everything, test, finalize back to terminal prompt hopefully things are working right now, so: init 5 back to your GUI
Tried that first thing this morning. I actually moved the XF86Config and xorg files into a backup directory so there was no chance of SAX picking them up from a differently named file. I went to init 3, ran SAX. SAX found everything as before and it refuses to allow a dual head setup. In Expert there seems to be nothing that I can tweak to turn on Xinerama or the FrameBuffer thing. It did auto detect things right... when I saved, it wrote an XF96Config - not an xorg.config file. I did an init 5 and restarted X, and everything works as it did when I installed. I checked YOU to make sure there wasn't a new Radeon driver (suggested in another thread on ATI vid cards) and nothing there. I'm about ready to give up and move back to the good old standby nVidia cards. I've never had problems with them. Only issue is convincing the IT guy here that I need a new video card :-P C
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 09:02:55 +0100 Clayton Cornell <smaug42@gmail.com> wrote:
Tried that first thing this morning. I actually moved the XF86Config and xorg files into a backup directory so there was no chance of SAX picking them up from a differently named file. I went to init 3, ran SAX. SAX found everything as before and it refuses to allow a dual head setup. In Expert there seems to be nothing that I can tweak to turn on Xinerama or the FrameBuffer thing. It did auto detect things right... when I saved, it wrote an XF96Config - not an xorg.config file. I did an init 5 and restarted X, and everything works as it did when I installed.
If SaX wrote to XF86Config, yours is old. Get the current from: ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/X/SaX2/suse92 The latest SaX puts its output directly into xorg.conf. [Note: SuSE 9.2 does __not__ look at XF86Config, but at xorg.conf !!!] mikus p.s. The principal use I got out of fglrxconfig was documentation - a listing of all the options. It may be that to set up the environment you want, you will have to change some option values. [If need be, you might add them by hand to the xorg.conf built by SaX.] By the way, the fglrxconfig I have put its output into XF86Config-4. To use it, rather than the SaX output, I created a symlink from xorg.conf to XF86Config-4. The SuSE readme gives the command for using SaX with fglrx as: sax2 -r -m 0=fglrx -b /usr/X11R6/lib/sax/profile/firegl -i
If SaX wrote to XF86Config, yours is old. Get the current from: ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/X/SaX2/suse92 The latest SaX puts its output directly into xorg.conf. [Note: SuSE 9.2 does __not__ look at XF86Config, but at xorg.conf !!!]
Hmmm well... I just did an rpm -q sax2 and got back "sax2-4.8-142". The sax2 on the ftp site is the exact same one. To test again, I did an init 3, removed all XF86Config and xorg files (into a backup directory), fired up SAX2 and let it work it's magic. Finalized and saved... then looked in /etc/X11 and sax2 wrote an XF86Config file... no xorg files in sight. I checked, and I have xorg-x11 6.8.2rc3-0.1 installed.. so it's not a matter of a missing xorg install. When I was last in sax2 I tried adding in a second video card, and enabling stuff that way... here's what it wrote in the XF86Config file.... (I snipped out the irrelevant stuff, and the modes). I've compared to the man pages, and it all seems to be correct, yet... still I have a cloned display on the second output...not a Xinerama thing. I haven't played with the FrameBuffer stuff (from the DRI Wiki) yet because my install seems to think it only has XF86Config and not xorg... ????? Section "Monitor" DisplaySize 340 270 HorizSync 30-80 Identifier "Monitor[0]" ModelName "F-17" Option "DPMS" VendorName "AIC" VertRefresh 43-75 UseModes "Modes[0]" EndSection Section "Monitor" Option "CalcAlgorithm" "CheckDesktopGeometry" DisplaySize 320 240 HorizSync 28-86 Identifier "Monitor[1]" ModelName "VISION MASTER 17" Option "DPMS" VendorName "IIYAMA" VertRefresh 50-120 UseModes "Modes[1]" EndSection Section "Device" BoardName "Radeon VE" BusID "1:0:0" Driver "radeon" Identifier "Device[0]" Screen 0 Option "Rotate" "off" VendorName "ATI" EndSection Section "Device" BoardName "Radeon VE" BusID "1:0:0" Driver "radeon" Identifier "Device[1]" Screen 1 Option "Rotate" "off" VendorName "ATI" EndSection Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "Layout[all]" InputDevice "Keyboard[0]" "CoreKeyboard" InputDevice "Mouse[1]" "CorePointer" Option "Clone" "off" Option "Xinerama" "on" Screen "Screen[0]" Screen "Screen[1]" RightOf "Screen[0]" EndSection C.
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 14:40:32 +0100, Clayton Cornell <smaug42@gmail.com> wrote:
If SaX wrote to XF86Config, yours is old. Get the current from: ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/X/SaX2/suse92 The latest SaX puts its output directly into xorg.conf. [Note: SuSE 9.2 does __not__ look at XF86Config, but at xorg.conf !!!]
Hmmm well... I just did an rpm -q sax2 and got back "sax2-4.8-142". The sax2 on the ftp site is the exact same one.
Ooops... I should read closer... there was an additional .1 on the version number... just installing the RPM now... mayeb that will make the difference. C.
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 14:43:04 +0100, Clayton Cornell <smaug42@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 14:40:32 +0100, Clayton Cornell <smaug42@gmail.com> wrote:
If SaX wrote to XF86Config, yours is old. Get the current from: ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/X/SaX2/suse92 The latest SaX puts its output directly into xorg.conf. [Note: SuSE 9.2 does __not__ look at XF86Config, but at xorg.conf !!!]
Hmmm well... I just did an rpm -q sax2 and got back "sax2-4.8-142". The sax2 on the ftp site is the exact same one.
Ooops... I should read closer... there was an additional .1 on the version number... just installing the RPM now... mayeb that will make the difference.
Nope, that didn't help. I have an xorg.config file now which is an exact copy of the XF86Config file... so my previous posting with the XF86Config stuff still stands. Hmmm... not looking like I'm going to solve this anytime soon. going ot try the FrameBuffer stuff next. C
On Monday 31 January 2005 07:11 am, Mikus Grinbergs wrote:
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 09:02:55 +0100 Clayton Cornell <smaug42@gmail.com> wrote:
Tried that first thing this morning. I actually moved the XF86Config and xorg files into a backup directory so there was no chance of SAX picking them up from a differently named file. I went to init 3, ran SAX. SAX found everything as before and it refuses to allow a dual head setup. In Expert there seems to be nothing that I can tweak to turn on Xinerama or the FrameBuffer thing. It did auto detect things right... when I saved, it wrote an XF96Config - not an xorg.config file. I did an init 5 and restarted X, and everything works as it did when I installed.
If SaX wrote to XF86Config, yours is old. Get the current from: ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/X/SaX2/suse92 The latest SaX puts its output directly into xorg.conf. [Note: SuSE 9.2 does __not__ look at XF86Config, but at xorg.conf !!!]
Uhhh that may well be but on my 9.2 setup, xorg.conf is nothing more than a symlink to XF86Config. So it wouldn't matter which one sax2 wrote to. Same thing.
On Friday 28 January 2005 13:37, Clayton Cornell wrote:
Has anyone tried using fglrxconfig on an ATI Radeon 7000? I've been poking around trying to find ways to make the multihead part of the card work (using SuSE9.2), and everything I have found so far seem to point to fglrxconfig and needing a newer video card :-(
How about using DRI rather than fglrx, with mergedfb for the dualhead bit? http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/MergedFB I have used this very successfully in the past (with a Radeon 9000, but I think it will work on a 7000). -- Bill
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 14:56:55 +0000, William Gallafent <william@gallaf.net> wrote:
On Friday 28 January 2005 13:37, Clayton Cornell wrote:
Has anyone tried using fglrxconfig on an ATI Radeon 7000? I've been poking around trying to find ways to make the multihead part of the card work (using SuSE9.2), and everything I have found so far seem to point to fglrxconfig and needing a newer video card :-(
How about using DRI rather than fglrx, with mergedfb for the dualhead bit?
http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/MergedFB
I have used this very successfully in the past (with a Radeon 9000, but I think it will work on a 7000).
The saga continues :-) So, a combination of things seems to have given me the two monitor output i wanted. i had to edit my XF86Config, not the xorg.config file... I told it I had 2 video cards, and configured a monitor for each... then I manually added in the MergedFB options and restarted X. It works... sort of. My fonts are out of control now. Firefox fonts are HUGE... about 64 point. Seems only to be related to Firefox and Mozilla apps... and only in the application fonts (the title bar, menus etc.). Any ideas why? C
The saga continues :-) So, a combination of things seems to have given me the two monitor output i wanted. i had to edit my XF86Config, not the xorg.config file... I told it I had 2 video cards, and configured a monitor for each... then I manually added in the MergedFB options and restarted X. It works... sort of. My fonts are out of control now. Firefox fonts are HUGE... about 64 point. Seems only to be related to Firefox and Mozilla apps... and only in the application fonts (the title bar, menus etc.). Any ideas why?
Solved it by changing the dpi setting for screen 0. I doubled the width setting and restarted X and the font sizes returned to normal. Whew... not easy to get this silly thing "working" But it is working now.... Thanks for all the hints and tips. The combination of them all led to the solution. C
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