Re: [SuSE Linux] Hosed system :(
dizzy wrote:
Hi All I aqquired a compaq presairo and wanted to use a hd disk that I had already been using. The hd had lilo on the mbr and worked flawlessly. I removed and installed the hd into the compaq which come to find has a setup/diagnostic prog in the mbr?? anyway the hd booted with just LI so I figgured Id place it back in the machine it came from and reinstall lilo. here's the problem.. lilo wont go on the mbr correctly and my /vmlinuz is above the 1024 cylinders so I need it on the mbr I tried using a boot disk and reinstall lilo boot to the drive in single user, running yast and reinstalling onto the mbr (which worked before) boot to dos and fdisk /mbr after taht redoing the first 2 items any suggestions... Id sure appreciate it Id dont really want to reinstall. I just want my system back thanks rob
I have heard of a problem that exists with compaq system. It appears that compaq uses a modified IDE/EIDE interface which causes the problem you stated, ie if you setup a drive on a compaq you won't be able to use it on a non compaq or non-compaq to compaq will provide the same result. So be carefull when swaping disks between compaq's and non compaq systems. Iain - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>
Iain McMillan wrote:
dizzy wrote:
Hi All I aqquired a compaq presairo and wanted to use a hd disk that I had already been using. The hd had lilo on the mbr and worked flawlessly. I removed and installed the hd into the compaq which come to find has a setup/diagnostic prog in the mbr?? anyway the hd booted with just LI so I figgured Id place it back in the machine it came from and reinstall lilo. here's the problem.. lilo wont go on the mbr correctly and my /vmlinuz is above the 1024 cylinders so I need it on the mbr I tried using a boot disk and reinstall lilo boot to the drive in single user, running yast and reinstalling onto the mbr (which worked before) boot to dos and fdisk /mbr after taht redoing the first 2 items any suggestions... Id sure appreciate it Id dont really want to reinstall. I just want my system back thanks rob
I have heard of a problem that exists with compaq system. It appears that compaq uses a modified IDE/EIDE interface which causes the problem you stated, ie if you setup a drive on a compaq you won't be able to use it on a non compaq or non-compaq to compaq will provide the same result.
So be carefull when swaping disks between compaq's and non compaq systems.
Iain
Yes... I now have at least 2 drives that will not accept booting parameters. Does anyone have a idea of a low level format? Or how to remove traces of compaqs propritery &hit format, fdisk /mbr has no effect on the drive. Im trying to install on another disk that no matter where I pace lilo when it boots all i get is LI. IVe set the drives cylinders heads and sectors in fdisk... ran dos fdisk /mbr nothing! I still get LI any ideas? thanks rob - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>
dizzy73 wrote:
Yes... I now have at least 2 drives that will not accept booting parameters. Does anyone have a idea of a low level format? Or how to remove traces
ome HD-producer offer a program for that. It could be worth searching their websites. I accidently left my computer magazine with the address in britain last month. ;-( but it was one of the big ones and the program would work on other disks as well.
of compaqs propritery &hit format, fdisk /mbr has no effect on the drive. Im trying to install on
I've learned a few more reasons why to avoid Compaq today, sadly none at work will listen to me. ;-(( Juergen -- ========================================== __ _ Juergen Braukmann mail: brauki@cityweb.de| -o)/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Tel: 0201-743648 dk4jb@db0qs.#nrw.deu.eu| /\\ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / ==========================================_\_v __/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>
Hi, On Sun, Dec 06, 1998 at 00:06 +0100, Juergen Braukmann wrote:
Does anyone have a idea of a low level format? Or how to remove traces
some HD-producer offer a program for that. It could be worth searching their websites. I accidently left my computer magazine with the address in britain last month. ;-( but it was one of the big ones and the program would work on other disks as well.
The program is available at Maxtor's ftp server: <A HREF="ftp://ftp.maxtor.com/pub/ide/llfutil.exe"><A HREF="ftp://ftp.maxtor.com/pub/ide/llfutil.exe</A">ftp://ftp.maxtor.com/pub/ide/llfutil.exe</A</A>> The computer magazine Jürgen referred to (c't) warned that low level formating older hard disks (as a rule of thumb hardisks < 504 MB should be considered old) can destroy them. Ciao, Stefan - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>
Stefan Troeger wrote:
Hi,
On Sun, Dec 06, 1998 at 00:06 +0100, Juergen Braukmann wrote:
Does anyone have a idea of a low level format? Or how to remove traces
The program is available at Maxtor's ftp server:
<A HREF="ftp://ftp.maxtor.com/pub/ide/llfutil.exe"><A HREF="ftp://ftp.maxtor.com/pub/ide/llfutil.exe</A">ftp://ftp.maxtor.com/pub/ide/llfutil.exe</A</A>>
confirmed. that's it ;-) j. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>
Stefan Troeger wrote:
Hi,
On Sun, Dec 06, 1998 at 00:06 +0100, Juergen Braukmann wrote:
Does anyone have a idea of a low level format? Or how to remove traces
some HD-producer offer a program for that.The program is available at Maxtor's ftp server:
<A HREF="ftp://ftp.maxtor.com/pub/ide/llfutil.exe"><A HREF="ftp://ftp.maxtor.com/pub/ide/llfutil.exe</A">ftp://ftp.maxtor.com/pub/ide/llfutil.exe</A</A>>
The computer magazine Jürgen referred to (c't) warned that low level formating older hard disks (as a rule of thumb hardisks < 504 MB should be considered old) can destroy them.
Ciao, Stefan
Thanks Stefan I dld the file to use in the future. IN the mean time Ive found an uncontamminated disk <grin> that I installed on.... so I dont have to deal with this rite now. However for what its worth a fellow in my lug mentioned this method of wiping a drive. I figgured some on this list would like to know. whne I wipe the drive Ill report back here ;-) thanks again ============================= If you do have another unix box on hand try: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda /dev/hda (in the of var) being the device you want to wipe clean. When it's done...you have a nice zero'fied hd which should be all set to go. ================================= rob Bookmarks <A HREF="http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73/LBM.htm"><A HREF="http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73/LBM.htm</A">http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73/LBM.htm</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>
Just an idea , I saw a post thet the compacts use a semi propiettry ide controler. So you may want to change the controler , or if it built in add another one in and disable the onboard controller , then hook op the drive ? At 05:45 PM 12/5/1998 +0000, you wrote:
Iain McMillan wrote:
dizzy wrote:
Hi All I aqquired a compaq presairo and wanted to use a hd disk that I had already been using. The hd had lilo on the mbr and worked flawlessly. I removed and installed the hd into the compaq which come to find has a setup/diagnostic prog in the mbr?? anyway the hd booted with just LI so I figgured Id place it back in the machine it came from and reinstall lilo. here's the problem.. lilo wont go on the mbr correctly and my /vmlinuz is above the 1024 cylinders so I need it on the mbr I tried using a boot disk and reinstall lilo boot to the drive in single user, running yast and reinstalling onto the mbr (which worked before) boot to dos and fdisk /mbr after taht redoing the first 2 items any suggestions... Id sure appreciate it Id dont really want to reinstall. I just want my system back thanks rob
I have heard of a problem that exists with compaq system. It appears that compaq uses a modified IDE/EIDE interface which causes the problem you stated, ie if you setup a drive on a compaq you won't be able to use it on a non compaq or non-compaq to compaq will provide the same result.
So be carefull when swaping disks between compaq's and non compaq systems.
Iain
Yes... I now have at least 2 drives that will not accept booting parameters. Does anyone have a idea of a low level format? Or how to remove traces of compaqs propritery &hit format, fdisk /mbr has no effect on the drive. Im trying to install on another disk that no matter where I pace lilo when it boots all i get is LI. IVe set the drives cylinders heads and sectors in fdisk... ran dos fdisk /mbr nothing! I still get LI any ideas? thanks rob - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>
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Iain McMillan wrote:
dizzy wrote:
Hi All I aqquired a compaq presairo and wanted to use a hd disk that I had already been using. The hd had lilo on the mbr and worked flawlessly. I removed and installed the hd into the compaq which come to find has a setup/diagnostic prog in the mbr?? anyway the hd booted with just LI so I figgured Id place it back in the machine it came from and reinstall lilo. here's the problem.. lilo wont go on the mbr correctly and my /vmlinuz is above the 1024 cylinders so I need it on the mbr I tried using a boot disk and reinstall lilo boot to the drive in single user, running yast and reinstalling onto the mbr (which worked before) boot to dos and fdisk /mbr after taht redoing the first 2 items any suggestions... Id sure appreciate it Id dont really want to reinstall. I just want my system back thanks rob
I have heard of a problem that exists with compaq system. It appears that compaq uses a modified IDE/EIDE interface which causes the problem you stated, ie if you setup a drive on a compaq you won't be able to use it on a non compaq or non-compaq to compaq will provide the same result.
So be carefull when swaping disks between compaq's and non compaq systems.
Compaq does a LOT of NON-standard things with their hardware, and is one reason that they are NOT on my approved list to buy at Cornell. Fred _______ Frea A. Miller, Systems Admin. Cornell Univ. Press Services fm@cupserv.org - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>
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