[opensuse] 12.3 install fails on reboot
I have just tried to install opensuse 12.3 on a Sun Ultra 20 that had previously been running 11.0 I think. The install seems to go without problem until it gets to the part where it reboots after copying the packages. The boot usually gets to this point and hangs: found a linux console terminal on /dev/console I tried a bit of searching http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Support but haven't found anything on this yet. Has anyone else seen this and can point me in the right direction? Damon Register -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Sun, 07 Apr 2013 19:11:42 -0400 Damon Register <dregister@clear.net> wrote:
I have just tried to install opensuse 12.3 on a Sun Ultra 20 that had previously been running 11.0 I think. The install seems to go without problem until it gets to the part where it reboots after copying the packages. The boot usually gets to this point and hangs:
found a linux console terminal on /dev/console
Among problems, frequent are those related to graphics hardware support. To check is that the case start computer and on a boot screen just press "e" to edit highlighted item. When you see new screen it should be the one where you can edit boot parameters. Read instructions below editing field. Find line starting with "linux" and append to the end "nomodeset". Boot. Note that line might be wrapped so end could be in the next line. It is in any case above line starting with "initrd". If you get yast to continue its work, then it is really graphics hardware problem. -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 4/7/2013 8:28 PM, Rajko wrote:
Among problems, frequent are those related to graphics hardware I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
Find line starting with "linux" and append to the end "nomodeset". Boot. I found that screen as you said and put nomodeset
If you get yast to continue its work, then it is really graphics hardware problem. It seemed to get a little farther but not much. What I don't understand is how the normal graphical install completes without any issue at all but it is such a problem at this point just after the reboot.
I did a little Google with nomodeset and found this http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/pre-release-beta/... do you think the suggestion for NOKMS_IN_INITRD is a good idea in this case? Damon Register -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Sun, 07 Apr 2013 22:58:05 -0400 Damon Register <dregister@clear.net> wrote:
do you think the suggestion for NOKMS_IN_INITRD is a good idea in this case?
That is possible when you have operational system with only problem that you have to add "nomodeset" each time when you boot. You are not that far. Besides, "nomodeset" has value as debugging tool, but you actually want to have modesetting, unless computer is a server and graphic performance is not important. Next try is to boot using menu item Advanced options, it is the same as Failsafe in previous releases. It will disable few more things that may hang computer. Also, you may try text mode that will skip GUI mode. Also, it would help to think about problem if you have some technical data about hardware. I don't think that "Sun Ultra 20" will help us looking for hardware specifications. -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 4/8/2013 12:54 AM, Rajko wrote:
that you have to add "nomodeset" each time when you boot. You are not that far. OK.
Besides, "nomodeset" has value as debugging tool, but you actually want to have modesetting, unless computer is a server and graphic performance is not important. It is a server though I guess graphic performance would be nice to have.
Next try is to boot using menu item Advanced options, it is the same as Failsafe in previous releases. It will disable few more things that may hang computer. Does it do nomodeset? I did try failsafe but didn't seem to get any further.
Also, you may try text mode that will skip GUI mode. The text mode install? That is what I am trying now. I won't know til I get home if it worked.
Also, it would help to think about problem if you have some technical data about hardware. I don't think that "Sun Ultra 20" will help us looking for hardware specifications. That crossed my mind last night. I was thinking I should have provided more detail. The processor is an AMD opteron 64 bit. Graphics chipset on the motherboard is ATI. The computer is probably 8-10 years old now. Though I don't remember the last time I installed an earlier version of SuSE, I think I remember having graphics trouble. I thinking at this point I might buy a new graphics card that might be better supported.
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On 2013-04-08 05:43 (GMT-0400) Damon Register composed:
It is a server ... Graphics chipset on the motherboard is ATI. The computer is probably 8-10 years old now. Though I don't remember the last time I installed an earlier version of SuSE, I think I remember having graphics trouble. I thinking at this point I might buy a new graphics card that might be better supported.
This sounds quite a bit like a long Fedora thread just ended, beginning at: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2013-April/181022.html -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Mon, 2013-04-08 at 06:01 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
On 2013-04-08 05:43 (GMT-0400) Damon Register composed:
It is a server ... Graphics chipset on the motherboard is ATI. The computer is probably 8-10 years old now. Though I don't remember the last time I installed an earlier version of SuSE, I think I remember having graphics trouble. I thinking at this point I might buy a new graphics card that might be better supported.
This sounds quite a bit like a long Fedora thread just ended, beginning at: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2013-April/181022.html
I just fought with this (ATI RADEON HD6670) in an openSUSE 12.3 64-bit install. Plunked it out and replaced it with an nvidia... It would be nice if the reboot after the install used the same graphics driver as the install. Otherwise you get a half install since there is no telling what happened in the phase two part of the install when the graphics are gone. At least with the install 100% finished one can then address these pesky hardware issues. Yours sincerely, Roger Oberholtzer Ramböll RST / Systems Office: Int +46 10-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 roger.oberholtzer@ramboll.se ________________________________________ Ramböll Sverige AB Krukmakargatan 21 P.O. Box 17009 SE-104 62 Stockholm, Sweden www.rambollrst.se -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
It would be nice if the reboot after the install used the same graphics driver as the install. Otherwise you get a half install since there is no telling what happened in the phase two part of the install when the graphics are gone. At least with the install 100% finished one can then address these pesky hardware issues.
That is not a bad suggestion, although newbies might not have an easy time with it. Perhaps we should make it a YaST option? -- Per Jessen, Zürich (7.9°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free DNS hosting, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, 2013-04-08 at 13:56 +0200, Per Jessen wrote:
Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
It would be nice if the reboot after the install used the same graphics driver as the install. Otherwise you get a half install since there is no telling what happened in the phase two part of the install when the graphics are gone. At least with the install 100% finished one can then address these pesky hardware issues.
That is not a bad suggestion, although newbies might not have an easy time with it. Perhaps we should make it a YaST option?
I think you get that driver with the boot option "x11failsafe". Yes, it would be a good idea that when yast says it is going to reboot it offers doing so with the install driver. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 12.1 x86_64 "Asparagus" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlFitiUACgkQtTMYHG2NR9WScACeMUAApVsyT3i6HQK21sjRdgmg n1MAnjAN+HWtB/lXIbneynB+/naFJK+H =kwHm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 4/8/2013 8:20 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I think you get that driver with the boot option "x11failsafe". I might try that just for fun
Yes, it would be a good idea that when yast says it is going to reboot it offers doing so with the install driver. I would love to see that one. This isn't the first time that I have run into graphics issues. I guess at this point the most practical thing for me to do is buy an inexpensive modern card and forget about it. I see them for as low as $13 at Microcenter. At least the motherboard is PCI express so I shouldn't have trouble finding cards.
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On Mon, 2013-04-08 at 06:01 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
This sounds quite a bit like a long Fedora thread just ended, beginning at: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2013-April/181022.html
I just fought with this (ATI RADEON HD6670) in an openSUSE 12.3 64-bit install. Plunked it out and replaced it with an nvidia... I looked at the Fedora thread and after considering it and your comment, I decided it wasn't worth the trouble so I did the same. I bought a relatively inexpensive nvidia card with a large heat sink and no fan. The install went great and so did the reboot. it is currently doing updates. Thanks for everyone's advice. The improved performance over the framebuffer driver is worth
On 4/8/2013 7:19 AM, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: the cost of the card. Damon Register -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2013-04-07 22:58 (GMT-0400) Damon Register composed:
What I don't understand is how the normal graphical install completes without any issue at all but it is such a problem at this point just after the reboot.
Installation uses a slow generic driver. The most commonly used and much much faster chip-specific FOSS drivers depend on KMS. Cmdline nomodeset disables KMS, which for most chips disables chip-specific FOSS drivers. So if your gfxchip has a fast, specific FOSS driver assigned to it, and you don't use nomodeset, that driver will be used whether it actually works acceptably with your gfxchip or not. Can you boot single or rescue or some live media and get the output from 'lspci | grep VGA' to report here? 'hwinfo --gfxcard' would be even more helpful. Knowing what gfxchip you have helps us help you, and helps you help yourself. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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