[opensuse] Installing efax-gtk from source
I am installing this package from source because I have found no appropriate binary for x86_64. The directions in the source package seem very clear (which is good, because this is my first attempt at installation from source). I have already installed libsigc++2...rpm, because I know (I have been at this half a day) that it contains two library files that are required. The first step in the directions is <make>. It tells me: ***** configure: error: Library requirements (sigc++-1.2 >= 1.2.3) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them. ***** Looking for the location of the required files: ***** # find -name "libsigc*" ./tmp/libsigc++2-2.0.18-5.3.x86_64.rpm ./usr/share/doc/packages/libsigc++2 ./usr/lib64/libsigc-2.0.so.0 ./usr/lib64/libsigc-2.0.so.0.0.0 ***** I do not see libsigc++2, which is what the package is supposed to be all about. For something to do, I tried the library installation again: ***** # rpm -Uvh libsigc++2-2.0.18-5.3.x86_64.rpm warning: libsigc++2-2.0.18-5.3.x86_64.rpm: Header V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID 629ff0c2 Preparing... ########################################### [100%] package libsigc++2-2.0.18-5.3 is already installed ***** Where do I need to go from here? -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2008-02-12 at 20:43 +0200, Stan Goodman wrote:
I am installing this package from source because I have found no appropriate binary for x86_64.
The directions in the source package seem very clear (which is good, because this is my first attempt at installation from source). I have already installed libsigc++2...rpm, because I know (I have been at this half a day) that it contains two library files that are required.
The first step in the directions is <make>. It tells me:
***** configure: error: Library requirements (sigc++-1.2 >= 1.2.3) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them. *****
Did you install libsigc++2-devel? - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHshVTtTMYHG2NR9URAnU3AJ9SA1diHbYvO+A/HGlkqcQp4y3Y+gCfcdhF QvU1PgNWUBgxXtBbthRPoY8= =G1Vd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 12 February 2008 23:53:23 Carlos E. R. wrote: -----snip-----
Did you install libsigc++2-devel?
Not "-devel"; should I have? In any case the installation seems to have gone without a hitch, and the program does load without complaint. What would the "-devel" version have done for me? I have to thank you for cluing me to this webpin utility. I had never heard of it; I doubt that I would ever have found it, left to my own devices, and I certainly would not have thought to search for it. Incidentally, of the two repositories that it turned up for this search, only one of them actually has it. The directory on the other one (the one with the latest stable release) is totally empty. But totally. It's late now, past 0100, and I'm going to call it a day. Tomorrow I'll configure it and try to exercise it a bit.
Cheers, Carlos E. R.
-- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Wednesday 2008-02-13 at 01:15 +0200, Stan Goodman wrote:
On Tuesday 12 February 2008 23:53:23 Carlos E. R. wrote:
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Did you install libsigc++2-devel?
Not "-devel"; should I have? In any case the installation seems to have gone without a hitch, and the program does load without complaint. What would the "-devel" version have done for me?
Well, if you are to compile something, and the configure complains that some library is not installed, and you know it is, then 99% of the occasions it is looking for the -devel rpm. The compilation needs the files in there. Sometimes it will compile without "whatever-devel", with some missed features (those provided by "whatever"), and some times it will not compile at all.
I have to thank you for cluing me to this webpin utility. I had never heard of it; I doubt that I would ever have found it, left to my own devices, and I certainly would not have thought to search for it.
The list was full of comments about it when the author designed it. Now it is "common knowledge", more or less - but if you cam to the list recently you may not have known it. :-) Actually, I think there are two of such utilities: one hosted at opensuse.org, and the other at opensuse-community.org. The second lists external repos.
Incidentally, of the two repositories that it turned up for this search, only one of them actually has it. The directory on the other one (the one with the latest stable release) is totally empty. But totally.
Well, those were "home" repos, the authors may change things there often, dunno. It is not easy to know what is where and who makes what. Also, I don't know how often that list is refreshed.
It's late now, past 0100, and I'm going to call it a day. Tomorrow I'll configure it and try to exercise it a bit.
Right, good luck :-) - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHsi9etTMYHG2NR9URAonNAJ49p4kPEQFlinvARfGo3n3sRS069ACeP96n B0hSssfpVw68iWJbyB0OSJc= =vp17 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 13 February 2008 01:44:27 Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Wednesday 2008-02-13 at 01:15 +0200, Stan Goodman wrote:
On Tuesday 12 February 2008 23:53:23 Carlos E. R. wrote:
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Well, if you are to compile something, and the configure complains that some library is not installed, and you know it is, then 99% of the occasions it is looking for the -devel rpm. The compilation needs the files in there
I had no idea of that. I noticed the "-devel" in the file name, and didn't know what to make of it. I assumed it to be something for developers, thus not for me. Now I know better. Perhaps that will help me to spin my wheels less in the4 future.
Sometimes it will compile without "whatever-devel", with some missed features (those provided by "whatever"), and some times it will not compile at all.
I have to thank you for cluing me to this webpin utility. I had never heard of it; I doubt that I would ever have found it, left to my own devices, and I certainly would not have thought to search for it.
The list was full of comments about it when the author designed it. Now it is "common knowledge", more or less - but if you cam to the list recently you may not have known it. :-)
I came to openSuSE in the fall, a few months ago. I subscribed to the list shortly after that. I am very happy with this very helpful forum. Mostly, I have been making my way with the help of a book, which is very good for broad-brush understanding of the OS. and is quite good as long as nothing goes wrong -- troubleshooting is beyond it. Google is enormous help. I confess I am not enamored of the way e.g. man pages are written. I don't always know what questions to ask. All in all, I think I am not doing bad with openSuSE, though wasting a LOT of time that I don't have. I have two other probably simple troubleshooting problems to solve before I will regard the system as being what I want it to be. When I am past the fax problem, I'll bring them here.
Actually, I think there are two of such utilities: one hosted at opensuse.org, and the other at opensuse-community.org. The second lists external repos.
Can you tell me its name?
Incidentally, of the two repositories that it turned up for this search, only one of them actually has it. The directory on the other one (the one with the latest stable release) is totally empty. But totally.
Well, those were "home" repos, the authors may change things there often, dunno. It is not easy to know what is where and who makes what.
Clearly.
Also, I don't know how often that list is refreshed.
Right, good luck :-)
Right now, when efax-gtk came up, it complains that it can't find "pre-lock file /var/lock/TMP" (which doesn't exist). Nothing about this is mentioned in the "documentation" about any of that, of course. If and when I have time, I will mount a research program to find what it is all about. There is something to be said for writing more explicit documentation, but one can't ask for too much.
-- Cheers, Carlos E. R.
-- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Wednesday 2008-02-13 at 10:03 +0200, Stan Goodman wrote:
Well, if you are to compile something, and the configure complains that some library is not installed, and you know it is, then 99% of the occasions it is looking for the -devel rpm. The compilation needs the files in there
I had no idea of that. I noticed the "-devel" in the file name, and didn't know what to make of it. I assumed it to be something for developers, thus not for me. Now I know better. Perhaps that will help me to spin my wheels less in the4 future.
There is a lot of know-how that is not documented, I think.
The list was full of comments about it when the author designed it. Now it is "common knowledge", more or less - but if you cam to the list recently you may not have known it. :-)
I came to openSuSE in the fall, a few months ago. I subscribed to the list shortly after that. I am very happy with this very helpful forum.
Mostly, I have been making my way with the help of a book, which is very good for broad-brush understanding of the OS. and is quite good as long as nothing goes wrong -- troubleshooting is beyond it. Google is enormous help. I confess I am not enamored of the way e.g. man pages are written.
No, that's very true. Many man pages are simply designed to remind the users of the options, but don't explain how to use the program to be productive. Some, on the other hand, are pretty good: procmail and fetchmail are to good examples. Also... I'm busy translating a few mans to Spanish, and I tell you, it is not easy: there is no editor designed to edit manpage in a format like, for instance, the typical modern day editor does, showing bold in bold, indented as indented, etc. They expect you to edit plain text with format codes inserted! No wonder man pages are old and mostly terse and to the point, non user friendly.
I don't always know what questions to ask. All in all, I think I am not doing bad with openSuSE, though wasting a LOT of time that I don't have.
It's the learning phase, it passes. Later, you use the system and don't touch it: it simply works.
Actually, I think there are two of such utilities: one hosted at opensuse.org, and the other at opensuse-community.org. The second lists external repos.
Can you tell me its name?
http://packages.opensuse-community.org/
Right now, when efax-gtk came up, it complains that it can't find "pre-lock file /var/lock/TMP" (which doesn't exist). Nothing about this is mentioned in the "documentation" about any of that, of course. If and when I have time, I will mount a research program to find what it is all about. There is something to be said for writing more explicit documentation, but one can't ask for too much.
That, I don't know, I haven't used that program. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHstR0tTMYHG2NR9URArxxAJ9f4THjOe/rTnwTSbW7rMi5aBrTCACeMmhp 1EMF3SpEF3n9GYATd+Px058= =XpVv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 13 February 2008 13:28:51 Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Wednesday 2008-02-13 at 10:03 +0200, Stan Goodman wrote:
Well, if you are to compile something, and the configure complains that some library is not installed, and you know it is, then 99% of the occasions it is looking for the -devel rpm. The compilation needs the files in there
I had no idea of that. I noticed the "-devel" in the file name, and didn't know what to make of it. I assumed it to be something for developers, thus not for me. Now I know better. Perhaps that will help me to spin my wheels less in the4 future.
There is a lot of know-how that is not documented, I think.
The list was full of comments about it when the author designed it. Now it is "common knowledge", more or less - but if you cam to the list recently you may not have known it. :-)
I came to openSuSE in the fall, a few months ago. I subscribed to the list shortly after that. I am very happy with this very helpful forum.
Mostly, I have been making my way with the help of a book, which is very good for broad-brush understanding of the OS. and is quite good as long as nothing goes wrong -- troubleshooting is beyond it. Google is enormous help. I confess I am not enamored of the way e.g. man pages are written.
No, that's very true. Many man pages are simply designed to remind the users of the options, but don't explain how to use the program to be productive. Some, on the other hand, are pretty good: procmail and fetchmail are to good examples.
Also... I'm busy translating a few mans to Spanish, and I tell you, it is not easy: there is no editor designed to edit manpage in a format like, for instance, the typical modern day editor does, showing bold in bold, indented as indented, etc. They expect you to edit plain text with format codes inserted! No wonder man pages are old and mostly terse and to the point, non user friendly.
I don't always know what questions to ask. All in all, I think I am not doing bad with openSuSE, though wasting a LOT of time that I don't have.
All that you say above is correct, IMO. Unfortunately, I do not have the time to massage the system to the extent that seems to be required. For example, I have been chasing this error in efax-gtk for the better part of the day, to no effect whatever, except that I have discovered half a dozen other matters which the developer has simply not taken the trouble to explain in what he is pleased to call his "help" system. I cannot go further. There is simply no excuse for spending two days to install a fax program; in OS/2 it took me minutes, most of which was devoted to configuration. If I stay with openSuSE at all (which is becoming open to question), there will have to be a different way to deal with faxes, not Linux. More fundamentally, It has begun to dawn on me that I should have gone with either a boxed SuSE or (although it would mean spending for other hardware too) a Mac. In the meantime, I'll post two other requests for help on what I think are less foggy matters. That's a rant, I suppose. Sorry. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Wednesday 2008-02-13 at 18:40 +0200, Stan Goodman wrote:
All that you say above is correct, IMO. Unfortunately, I do not have the time to massage the system to the extent that seems to be required. For example, I have been chasing this error in efax-gtk for the better part of the day, to no effect whatever, except that I have discovered half a dozen other matters which the developer has simply not taken the trouble to explain in what he is pleased to call his "help" system. I cannot go further. There is simply no excuse for spending two days to install a fax program; in OS/2 it took me minutes, most of which was devoted to configuration.
It takes more time because you are not used to configure / setup things in linux, I think. I can not help you with efax beacause I have never used it: I use hylafax directly from openoffice. Setup was fast and it simply works. No GUI, no gadgets. The people I know that use a GUI with hylafax, seem to favour jhylafax, I believe. But have a look here (I think I told you this already): http://www.hylafax.org/content/Desktop_Client_Software there are 30 clients to choose from! If you don't like efax-gtk, use another. In any case, first you have to make sure the server is configured properly with the modem-fax, and that it can send and receive. The client is secondary. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHszg4tTMYHG2NR9URAohmAJ9XEswxgOXRcdVh/Ov/lSaD9hjGowCfXwxS 8BpQ1hk90FF9Nc41qjhyV74= =gcKc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, 2008-02-12 at 22:53 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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The Tuesday 2008-02-12 at 20:43 +0200, Stan Goodman wrote:
I am installing this package from source because I have found no appropriate binary for x86_64.
The directions in the source package seem very clear (which is good, because this is my first attempt at installation from source). I have already installed libsigc++2...rpm, because I know (I have been at this half a day) that it contains two library files that are required.
The first step in the directions is <make>. It tells me:
***** configure: error: Library requirements (sigc++-1.2 >= 1.2.3) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them. *****
Did you install libsigc++2-devel?
Carlos, why would it's -devel package be required, as opposed to just libsigc++2? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, 2008-02-12 at 20:19 -0500, Mike McMullin wrote:
On Tue, 2008-02-12 at 22:53 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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The Tuesday 2008-02-12 at 20:43 +0200, Stan Goodman wrote:
I am installing this package from source because I have found no appropriate binary for x86_64.
The directions in the source package seem very clear (which is good, because this is my first attempt at installation from source). I have already installed libsigc++2...rpm, because I know (I have been at this half a day) that it contains two library files that are required.
The first step in the directions is <make>. It tells me:
***** configure: error: Library requirements (sigc++-1.2 >= 1.2.3) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them. *****
Did you install libsigc++2-devel?
Carlos, why would it's -devel package be required, as opposed to just libsigc++2?
Answer noted in a later article. Thanks for the explanation Carlos. I did not know about the possible need for -devel packages if the dependencies were not fully met. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2008-02-12 at 20:25 -0500, Mike McMullin wrote:
Did you install libsigc++2-devel?
Carlos, why would it's -devel package be required, as opposed to just libsigc++2?
Answer noted in a later article. Thanks for the explanation Carlos. I did not know about the possible need for -devel packages if the dependencies were not fully met.
Er... not dependencies, but compile time requisites, which are detected by the configure scripts. Hopefully! Instead of supplying everything in a single rpm, suse splits libraries in three: the normal rpm, the -devel, needed for compilation, and the -debug one. Saves space and download time for normal users. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHskmWtTMYHG2NR9URAlfeAKCU0JSNF9Qxsuz5QIvFjpWkT79hbQCggg3v e9VtsQGfF6JHv/k3gbeAxqY= =oPki -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 13 February 2008 03:25:04 Mike McMullin wrote:
On Tue, 2008-02-12 at 20:19 -0500, Mike McMullin wrote:
On Tue, 2008-02-12 at 22:53 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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The first step in the directions is <make>. It tells me:
***** configure: error: Library requirements (sigc++-1.2 >= 1.2.3) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them. *****
Did you install libsigc++2-devel?
Carlos, why would it's -devel package be required, as opposed to just libsigc++2?
Answer noted in a later article. Thanks for the explanation Carlos. I did not know about the possible need for -devel packages if the dependencies were not fully met.
I feel better knowing that. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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