kraxel kernels, apt and other stuff that has to be upgraded

Ivan Sergio Borgonovo

21 Feb 2004 21 Feb '04

07:42

I know some ut (mkinitrd for example) have to be updated to make a 2.6.X kernel working. Is kraxel work included in the apt repository? I wasn't able to find any 2.6 kernel using apt-cache search. I noticed apt proposed mkinitrd as an update anyway. I'm still having a lot of errors trying to use a Linus 2.6.3 stock kernel (mainly a lot of can't find the module....). I did run generate-modprobe.conf with no success, I haven't been able to obtain a 2.6.3 working kernel even if I started from a working 2.4.24 .config (make oldconfig) and then checked the config with a make menuconfig. any advice?

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Sid Boyce

21 Feb 21 Feb

20:20

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Ivan Sergio Borgonovo wrote:

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I know some ut (mkinitrd for example) have to be updated to make a 2.6.X kernel working. Is kraxel work included in the apt repository? I wasn't able to find any 2.6 kernel using apt-cache search. I noticed apt proposed mkinitrd as an update anyway.

I'm still having a lot of errors trying to use a Linus 2.6.3 stock kernel (mainly a lot of can't find the module....).

I did run generate-modprobe.conf with no success, I haven't been able to obtain a 2.6.3 working kernel even if I started from a working 2.4.24 .config (make oldconfig) and then checked the config with a make menuconfig.

any advice?

Using "generate-modprobe.conf >/etc/modprobe.conf" didn't give me all I needed, so I used the one that came with SuSE 9.0 and modified a line or two, mainly to get the ov511 module loaded, the usblp module still doesn't load automatically. I also get lots of services failed messages during boot, all bogus. The kernel mailing list said this was all noise and is to be cleaned up. I'm using module-init-tools-3.0-pre10 which doesn't seem to be able to find any module I try manually to insert using modprobe or insmod, I may downgrade to 0.9.10 and see if that fixes the problem, strace shows it doesn't even try to access /lib/modules. Other than that, I'm running 2.6.3-mm2 successfully, the earlier 2.6 stuff also worked well. I only have one issue with Cisco vpnclient (I understand one guy has contacted Cisco) that's stopping me from moving to 2.6 on the laptop. I've found that just "mkdir /sys" is sufficient, if I try to mount it via /etc/fstab, it says it's already mounted, all the devices are there. I also upgraded hotplug from kernel.org. In order to get a VT console you need in your .config --- CONFIG_VT=y CONFIG_VT_CONSOLE=y BTW, I've not tried the kraxel stuff, only kernel.org. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce .... Hamradio G3VBV and keen Flyer Linux Only Shop.

Ivan Sergio Borgonovo

22 Feb 22 Feb

14:34

New subject: [SLE] kraxel kernels, apt and other stuff that has to be upgraded

On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 20:20:49 +0000 Sid Boyce wrote:

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Using "generate-modprobe.conf >/etc/modprobe.conf" didn't give me all I needed, so I used the one that came with SuSE 9.0 and modified

I had better luck at second trial... or maybe I need less. Major problem was with cdrom. I got "just" these errors during all boot process: <3>md: could not lock hda3. <4>md: could not import hda3! ... <6>cdrom: open failed. (repeated...) And to go on I had to insert a cd in the cd driver... quite annoying.

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this was all noise and is to be cleaned up. I'm using module-init-tools-3.0-pre10 which doesn't seem to be able to find

This box is a workstation but I'll have to look at it anyway. Could you tell me more about this package? Where can I find it? [snip] Anyway I think I'll have to be a bit more patient since I haven't been able to install nvidia drivers. The reason I was trying 2.6 was that there is something weired in 2.4.25 that doesn't let my box boot even doing a make oldconfig from a working 2.4.24 kernel. I'm going to analyse better the situation before flying a bug report to the already busy people on linux-kernel ml.

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BTW, I've not tried the kraxel stuff, only kernel.org.

I was looking there mainly cos I knew you need some updates for user space ut and I was wondering if I could check if all ut were the newest available through apt or... better to know if kraxel stuff is included in the apt rep. And yeah I tried a Linus stock kernel too. thx

Sid Boyce

22:56

New subject: [SLE] kraxel kernels, apt and other stuff that has to be upgraded

Ivan Sergio Borgonovo wrote:

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On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 20:20:49 +0000 Sid Boyce wrote:

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Using "generate-modprobe.conf >/etc/modprobe.conf" didn't give me all I needed, so I used the one that came with SuSE 9.0 and modified

I had better luck at second trial... or maybe I need less. Major problem was with cdrom.

I got "just" these errors during all boot process:

<3>md: could not lock hda3. <4>md: could not import hda3! ...

I haven't seen this problem.

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<6>cdrom: open failed. (repeated...)

And to go on I had to insert a cd in the cd driver... quite annoying.

I used to get this, but haven't seen it lately, it used to print out a number of time, then continue.

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this was all noise and is to be cleaned up. I'm using module-init-tools-3.0-pre10 which doesn't seem to be able to find

ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/module-init-tools/. I haven't gone back to the earlier version as it dates back to November, I think I shall try the kernel mailing list for an answer.

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This box is a workstation but I'll have to look at it anyway. Could you tell me more about this package? Where can I find it?

It's the 2.6 version replacement for modutils and is 2.4.x backwards compatible. ./configure --prefix=/ then make;make install.

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[snip]

Anyway I think I'll have to be a bit more patient since I haven't been able to install nvidia drivers. The reason I was trying 2.6 was that there is something weired in 2.4.25 that doesn't let my box boot even doing a make oldconfig from a working 2.4.24 kernel. I'm going to analyse better the situation before flying a bug report to the already busy people on linux-kernel ml.

I've just booted 2.4.25 on my laptop as I need it for the Cisco vpnclient that does not work with 2.6. I wonder what it fails on. 2.6.3-mm2 and 2.4.25 are fine on the laptop.

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BTW, I've not tried the kraxel stuff, only kernel.org.

I was looking there mainly cos I knew you need some updates for user space ut and I was wondering if I could check if all ut were the newest available through apt or... better to know if kraxel stuff is included in the apt rep. And yeah I tried a Linus stock kernel too.

thx

Generally, I install a new distro, pull in all the devel libraries and do my own builds from there as some things in the distros tend to be back level of what I need. I've only ever tried apt once, it gets upset at the stuff I've built and installed. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce .... Hamradio G3VBV and keen Flyer Linux Only Shop.

Ivan Sergio Borgonovo

23 Feb 23 Feb

00:00

New subject: [SLE] kraxel kernels, apt and other stuff that has to be upgraded

On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 22:56:58 +0000 Sid Boyce wrote:

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I got "just" these errors during all boot process:

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<3>md: could not lock hda3. <4>md: could not import hda3! ...

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I haven't seen this problem.

My guess is that new raid management doesn't read anymore raidtab and try to build up an md device with every partition it meets. But just guessing...

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<6>cdrom: open failed. (repeated...)

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And to go on I had to insert a cd in the cd driver... quite annoying.

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I used to get this, but haven't seen it lately, it used to print out a number of time, then continue.

I didn't wait. I saw it was trying to access the CD and placed one after it wrote the error message about 10 times... anyway even if it stops by itself it is pretty annoying. Do you have IDE CDROM support built into the kernel or as a module?

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this was all noise and is to be cleaned up. I'm using module-init-tools-3.0-pre10 which doesn't seem to be able to find

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ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/module-init-tools/. I

thx I'll give it a look tomorrow.

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It's the 2.6 version replacement for modutils and is 2.4.x backwards compatible. ./configure --prefix=/ then make;make install.

It seems that SL 9.0 comes with a 2.6 compatible version without the need for upgrades. I think kraxel provide updates for that too. Since you mentioned some daemons was not correctly reported as running I thought the ut was a fix to this problem.

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I've just booted 2.4.25 on my laptop as I need it for the Cisco vpnclient that does not work with 2.6. I wonder what it fails on. 2.6.3-mm2 and 2.4.25 are fine on the laptop.

:( sad still didn't find any good reason why starting from a perfectly running 2.4.24 .config I haven't been able to get a working 2.4.25 kernel. I think I'll check linux-kernel ml tomorrow and fly a bug report. Anyway I think I could solve the nvidia problem (I just had too old drivers) and move to 2.6 once the cdrom nuisance will be solved too.

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Generally, I install a new distro, pull in all the devel libraries and do my own builds from there as some things in the distros tend to be back level of what I need. I've only ever tried apt once, it gets upset at the stuff I've built and installed.

I discovered apt recently and till now no regret even if I build some packages by my own. Currently I've a bit of instability of kget and kfmclient in KDE 3.2 and I really hope they will fix it in new builds but I don't think apt has any guilt.

Sid Boyce

06:21

New subject: [SLE] kraxel kernels, apt and other stuff that has to be upgraded

Ivan Sergio Borgonovo wrote:

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On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 22:56:58 +0000 Sid Boyce wrote:

My guess is that new raid management doesn't read anymore raidtab and try to build up an md device with every partition it meets. But just guessing...

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<6>cdrom: open failed. (repeated...

I didn't wait. I saw it was trying to access the CD and placed one after it wrote the error message about 10 times... anyway even if it stops by itself it is pretty annoying.

Do you have IDE CDROM support built into the kernel or as a module?

I have it built into the kernel. I don't know when the messages stopped, I forgot all about it until you mentioned it.

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this was all noise and is to be cleaned up. I'm using module-init-tools-3.0-pre10 which doesn't seem to be able to find

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ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/module-init-tools/. I

thx I'll give it a look tomorrow.

I didn't see any improvement over the 9.0 distro modutils.

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It's the 2.6 version replacement for modutils and is 2.4.x backwards compatible. ./configure --prefix=/ then make;make install.

It seems that SL 9.0 comes with a 2.6 compatible version without the need for upgrades. I think kraxel provide updates for that too. Since you mentioned some daemons was not correctly reported as running I thought the ut was a fix to this problem.

That seems correct, I guess SuSE made all the necessary changes to modutils. What the correct format is for stuff in /etc/modprobe.conf is still a mystery, I've edited it to load modules, making my changed look like the format I've seen, but some still don't load.... e.g install usblp /bin/true alias char-major-180 usblp I've had to put "/sbin/insmod /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/usb/class/usblp.ko" as the first statement in /etc/init.d/lpd to get it loaded.

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:( sad still didn't find any good reason why starting from a perfectly running 2.4.24 .config I haven't been able to get a working 2.4.25 kernel. I think I'll check linux-kernel ml tomorrow and fly a bug report. Anyway I think I could solve the nvidia problem (I just had too old drivers) and move to 2.6 once the cdrom nuisance will be solved too.

I wonder what the symptoms are when you try booting 2.4.25. I only boot 2.4.25 on my laptop, the main box is 2.6.3-mm2 at the moment.

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I discovered apt recently and till now no regret even if I build some packages by my own.

Currently I've a bit of instability of kget and kfmclient in KDE 3.2 and I really hope they will fix it in new builds but I don't think apt has any guilt.

I have synaptic, but I hardly ever use it. I downloaded KDE 3.2 from the apt directory with wget and installed by hand. I suppose it's because I often mess with quite a few bleeding edge apps, like FlightGear and hamradio VOIP. For FlightGear, my USB yoke and pedals needed a patch which stopped working after 2.4.20, but they work with standard 2.6.x and would with kraxel 2.6.x. I did have one problem with the KDE 3.2-beta where konqueror was crashing and found a solution on bugs.kde.org, to remove /opt/kde3/lib/libkrpmview.* from SuSE distro, bugs.kde.org is one place you should visit, there is some excellent stuff there. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce .... Hamradio G3VBV and keen Flyer Linux Only Shop.

Ivan Sergio Borgonovo

12:57

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On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 06:21:26 +0000 Sid Boyce wrote:

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<6>cdrom: open failed. (repeated...

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I have it built into the kernel. I don't know when the messages stopped, I forgot all about it until you mentioned it.

I've found the problem: SUSE lvm script misbehaving. Disabled.

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That seems correct, I guess SuSE made all the necessary changes to modutils. What the correct format is for stuff in /etc/modprobe.conf is still a mystery, I've edited it to load modules, making my changed look like the format I've seen, but some still don't load.... e.g install usblp /bin/true alias char-major-180 usblp I've had to put "/sbin/insmod /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/usb/class/usblp.ko" as the first statement in /etc/init.d/lpd to get it loaded.

still a minor problem. psmouse won't load when I start X. I wonder what is the correct alias.

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I wonder what the symptoms are when you try booting 2.4.25. I only boot 2.4.25 on my laptop, the main box is 2.6.3-mm2 at the moment.

black screen, Caps, and scroll lock led flashing. I'm one step from having a 2.6.3 working as I like... so no need to solve 2.4.25 prob.

Sid Boyce

16:04

New subject: [SLE] kraxel kernels, apt and other stuff that has to be upgraded

Ivan Sergio Borgonovo wrote:

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On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 06:21:26 +0000 Sid Boyce wrote:

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<6>cdrom: open failed. (repeated...

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I have it built into the kernel. I don't know when the messages stopped, I forgot all about it until you mentioned it.

I've found the problem: SUSE lvm script misbehaving. Disabled.

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That seems correct, I guess SuSE made all the necessary changes to modutils. What the correct format is for stuff in /etc/modprobe.conf is still a mystery, I've edited it to load modules, making my changed look like the format I've seen, but some still don't load.... e.g install usblp /bin/true alias char-major-180 usblp I've had to put "/sbin/insmod /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/usb/class/usblp.ko" as the first statement in /etc/init.d/lpd to get it loaded.

still a minor problem. psmouse won't load when I start X. I wonder what is the correct alias.

I compile psaux in rather than as a module, it sounds like the correct alias isn't set.

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I wonder what the symptoms are when you try booting 2.4.25. I only boot 2.4.25 on my laptop, the main box is 2.6.3-mm2 at the moment.

black screen, Caps, and scroll lock led flashing.

I had that problem with some earlier 2.4.2x kernels, try kernel option acpi=off, then apm=off, it seemed to be to do with power management.

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I'm one step from having a 2.6.3 working as I like... so no need to solve 2.4.25 prob.

OK, 2.6.3 runs stable here, I always download the -mm patches, I expect to boot 2.6.3-mm3 in a few minutes. ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/akpm/patches/2.6/2.6.3/2.6.3-mm3/ Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce .... Hamradio G3VBV and keen Flyer Linux Only Shop.

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