At 22:23:05 on Monday Monday 21 December 2009, Teruel de Campo MD wrote:

On Mon, 2009-12-21 at 18:12 +0200, Stan Goodman wrote:

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also with some thumbnails, but I was not able to find any way to point to a directory in which I have placed 1366x768 images that I wish to use.

Stan,

Look inside of the "Appearance" window you already found. Then then there is a field called 'Picture" on the right side there is a floppy image. Click on that and select your own image from any directory you want. Then press Apply. BTW the picture will be now on the list that you can see pressing the button just right to "Picture"

I assume you mean the "Appearance" window that I found by MB2 on the desktop, because that is the one with the "Get New Wallpapers" button. There is no "Picture" button anywhere in it. Neither is there such a "Picture button" in the Get New Wallpapers window. In the "Appearance" button reached from Configure Desktop, there is also no "Picture" button. I don't know why I don't see what you see, in at least one of the "Appearnce" windows. But it doesn't really matter for me, since what I want to do is to have a different background in each desktop.

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One that has me stumped me is how to change the background (wallpaper)on the desktop. preferably separately for each of the multiple desktops

This is a little more complicated. First it does not work if you are using the 3D desktop (compiz-fusion).

I have not investigated Compiz-Fusion yet, and now that you tell me that it would have a limiting effect rather than making KDE more livable, I won't.

Here you have to use 'Activities" this is more than a desktop but this is out of the topic (BTW is it the closest of any present OS to the WPS) Here it goes:

I am reading now about Activities, in the hope of learning if they are useful or just another gew-gaw, and I like cashews.

1. Click the cashew on the right upper corner and <zoom out>. If you do not have the cashew read the bottom of this message) 2. Add an activity 3. Then go to the top of the activity (focus) you add it and righ mouse, desktop settings and change the background the same as you did before 4. Now you have 2 different desktops so zoom in: just go to the tab at the bottom of one of the activities and click on the (+) sign. 5. Now go the cashew on the righ upper corner and select Configure plasma. There checked <different activities for each desktop> 6. Press Cashew and Shortcut setting tell you the key to press to move from one activity to the next one.

Important Note: if in one of the activities you do not find the cashew (aka toolkit) just right mouse/desktop setting then click on "Type" and there select Desktop (versus Plain desktop). Plain desktop does not include the toolkit.

Stan I use compiz-fusion where activites worked but the "Configure Plama " mess everything up, besides using compiz I do not need different backgrounds any way.

Nobody actually needs different backgrounds; having read your instructions above, I will probably give them up too. But I will save your message to reread in moments when I think I may become more forgiving of KDE for producing this mess. But if I don't have different backgrounds, I will need to find the "Picture" button you mention, so that I can replace the default background. Especially with the weak chartreuse color, it reminds me only of the bubbles coming up from a stagnant pool with something rotting at the bottom. [I am not going to rant again, I have promised myself that. I have instead purchased a small voodoo doll in which I stick pins when the realization of what they have done to a perfectly good and serviceable desktop gets to me.] I don't think the kind of thing I am seeing in this simple effort to set background is at all excusable. I would never have believed that anybody could out-Microsoft Microsoft, but they have done it -- bells and whistles above all; utility, convenience, and intuitive design mean nothing, nor does consistency. I know that I am writing with a degree of sarcasm, and can only hope that it is understood by some. I doubt that anybody at KDE will understand it.

Hope it helps.

It does, in a way. Thanks.

-=terry=-

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On Monday 21 Dec 2009 21:13:17 Stan Goodman wrote:

At 22:23:05 on Monday Monday 21 December 2009, Teruel de Campo MD

wrote:

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On Mon, 2009-12-21 at 18:12 +0200, Stan Goodman wrote:

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also with some thumbnails, but I was not able to find any way to point to a directory in which I have placed 1366x768 images that I wish to use.

Stan,

Look inside of the "Appearance" window you already found. Then then there is a field called 'Picture" on the right side there is a floppy image. Click on that and select your own image from any directory you want. Then press Apply. BTW the picture will be now on the list that you can see pressing the button just right to "Picture"

I assume you mean the "Appearance" window that I found by MB2 on the desktop, because that is the one with the "Get New Wallpapers" button. There is no "Picture" button anywhere in it. Neither is there such a "Picture button" in the Get New Wallpapers window. In the "Appearance" button reached from Configure Desktop, there is also no "Picture" button. I don't know why I don't see what you see, in at least one of the "Appearnce" windows.

But it doesn't really matter for me, since what I want to do is to have a different background in each desktop.

...

...

One that has me stumped me is how to change the background (wallpaper)on the desktop. preferably separately for each of the multiple desktops

This is a little more complicated. First it does not work if you are using the 3D desktop (compiz-fusion).

I have not investigated Compiz-Fusion yet, and now that you tell me that it would have a limiting effect rather than making KDE more livable, I won't.

...

Here you have to use 'Activities" this is more than a desktop but this is out of the topic (BTW is it the closest of any present OS to the WPS) Here it goes:

I am reading now about Activities, in the hope of learning if they are useful or just another gew-gaw, and I like cashews.

...

1. Click the cashew on the right upper corner and <zoom out>. If you do not have the cashew read the bottom of this message) 2. Add an activity 3. Then go to the top of the activity (focus) you add it and righ mouse, desktop settings and change the background the same as you did before 4. Now you have 2 different desktops so zoom in: just go to the tab at the bottom of one of the activities and click on the (+) sign. 5. Now go the cashew on the righ upper corner and select Configure plasma. There checked <different activities for each desktop> 6. Press Cashew and Shortcut setting tell you the key to press to move from one activity to the next one.

Important Note: if in one of the activities you do not find the cashew (aka toolkit) just right mouse/desktop setting then click on "Type" and there select Desktop (versus Plain desktop). Plain desktop does not include the toolkit.

Stan I use compiz-fusion where activites worked but the "Configure Plama " mess everything up, besides using compiz I do not need different backgrounds any way.

Nobody actually needs different backgrounds; having read your instructions above, I will probably give them up too. But I will save your message to reread in moments when I think I may become more forgiving of KDE for producing this mess. But if I don't have different backgrounds, I will need to find the "Picture" button you mention, so that I can replace the default background. Especially with the weak chartreuse color, it reminds me only of the bubbles coming up from a stagnant pool with something rotting at the bottom.

[I am not going to rant again, I have promised myself that. I have instead purchased a small voodoo doll in which I stick pins when the realization of what they have done to a perfectly good and serviceable desktop gets to me.]

I don't think the kind of thing I am seeing in this simple effort to set background is at all excusable. I would never have believed that anybody could out-Microsoft Microsoft, but they have done it -- bells and whistles above all; utility, convenience, and intuitive design mean nothing, nor does consistency.

I know that I am writing with a degree of sarcasm, and can only hope that it is understood by some. I doubt that anybody at KDE will understand it.

...

Hope it helps.

It does, in a way. Thanks.

Stan!!! Have you finished your rant!!! I am sorry but I totally agree with you. Eddie -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org