[opensuse] Another effort to give KDE4 a chance
Lest anyone feel that my feeling about KDE4 reflects just a reluctance to march off into the future (which I expect to do anyway in the not to distant future), I am trying now to make another effort. I think I have mastered some of the (mostly unnecessary) changes in the way one must work. (In the future, people must not be allowed to become accustomed to anything. "Change" is the watchword.) One that has me stumped me is how to change the background (wallpaper) on the desktop. preferably separately for each of the multiple desktops. In KDE3, or course, one opened Configure Desktop > Appearance > Background, and from there all was straightforward. Not in KDE4 In KDE4, that sequence seems no longer to exist. One needs instead to click MB2 on any one of the multiple desktops, then on Desktop Setting, which brings up a window called Appearance. [One can also get to Appearance through Configure Desktops, but it is definitely not the same window. Cuidado!] In the window you have reached from clicking on the desktop, there are thumbnails for a few available images, most of which are in 4x3 format. Unfortunately, laptops are now made with 13x9 formats, so very few of the thumbnails attract me. But there IS a button on the window labeled Get New Wallpapers. This leads to another window, also with some thumbnails, but I was not able to find any way to point to a directory in which I have placed 1366x768 images that I wish to use. Leaving aside the vexed question of why the new process is in any way superior or more confenient than the former one, I would be grateful for any advice about how to introduce new images into the desktop. Please help... -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
In the window you have reached from clicking on the desktop, there are thumbnails for a few available images, most of which are in 4x3 format. Unfortunately, laptops are now made with 13x9 formats, so very few of the thumbnails attract me. But there IS a button on the window labeled Get New Wallpapers. This leads to another window, also with some thumbnails, but I was not able to find any way to point to a directory in which I have placed 1366x768 images that I wish to use.
Leaving aside the vexed question of why the new process is in any way superior or more confenient than the former one, I would be grateful for any advice about how to introduce new images into the desktop.
If you don't like the default ones you can: - add new ones from KDE-Look (you already found this one) - add wallpapers from the openSUSE community repos (there are several prepackaged wallpaper sets available).. then you find them in the picture dropdown along with the original set. - click the little folder icon to the right of the Picture dropdown and pick your own from your hard drive It's all quite easy :-) C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, 2009-12-21 at 18:12 +0200, Stan Goodman wrote:
also with some thumbnails, but I was not able to find any way to point to a directory in which I have placed 1366x768 images that I wish to use.
Stan, Look inside of the "Appearance" window you already found. Then then there is a field called 'Picture" on the right side there is a floppy image. Click on that and select your own image from any directory you want. Then press Apply. BTW the picture will be now on the list that you can see pressing the button just right to "Picture"
One that has me stumped me is how to change the background (wallpaper)on the desktop. preferably separately for each of the multiple desktops
This is a little more complicated. First it does not work if you are using the 3D desktop (compiz-fusion). Here you have to use 'Activities" this is more than a desktop but this is out of the topic (BTW is it the closest of any present OS to the WPS) Here it goes: 1. Click the cashew on the right upper corner and <zoom out>. If you do not have the cashew read the bottom of this message) 2. Add an activity 3. Then go to the top of the activity (focus) you add it and righ mouse, desktop settings and change the background the same as you did before 4. Now you have 2 different desktops so zoom in: just go to the tab at the bottom of one of the activities and click on the (+) sign. 5. Now go the cashew on the righ upper corner and select Configure plasma. There checked <different activities for each desktop> 6. Press Cashew and Shortcut setting tell you the key to press to move from one activity to the next one. Important Note: if in one of the activities you do not find the cashew (aka toolkit) just right mouse/desktop setting then click on "Type" and there select Desktop (versus Plain desktop). Plain desktop does not include the toolkit. Stan I use compiz-fusion where activites worked but the "Configure Plama " mess everything up, besides using compiz I do not need different backgrounds any way. Hope it helps. -=terry=- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
At 22:23:05 on Monday Monday 21 December 2009, Teruel de Campo MD <chusty@attglobal.net> wrote:
On Mon, 2009-12-21 at 18:12 +0200, Stan Goodman wrote:
also with some thumbnails, but I was not able to find any way to point to a directory in which I have placed 1366x768 images that I wish to use.
Stan,
Look inside of the "Appearance" window you already found. Then then there is a field called 'Picture" on the right side there is a floppy image. Click on that and select your own image from any directory you want. Then press Apply. BTW the picture will be now on the list that you can see pressing the button just right to "Picture"
I assume you mean the "Appearance" window that I found by MB2 on the desktop, because that is the one with the "Get New Wallpapers" button. There is no "Picture" button anywhere in it. Neither is there such a "Picture button" in the Get New Wallpapers window. In the "Appearance" button reached from Configure Desktop, there is also no "Picture" button. I don't know why I don't see what you see, in at least one of the "Appearnce" windows. But it doesn't really matter for me, since what I want to do is to have a different background in each desktop.
One that has me stumped me is how to change the background (wallpaper)on the desktop. preferably separately for each of the multiple desktops
This is a little more complicated. First it does not work if you are using the 3D desktop (compiz-fusion).
I have not investigated Compiz-Fusion yet, and now that you tell me that it would have a limiting effect rather than making KDE more livable, I won't.
Here you have to use 'Activities" this is more than a desktop but this is out of the topic (BTW is it the closest of any present OS to the WPS) Here it goes:
I am reading now about Activities, in the hope of learning if they are useful or just another gew-gaw, and I like cashews.
1. Click the cashew on the right upper corner and <zoom out>. If you do not have the cashew read the bottom of this message) 2. Add an activity 3. Then go to the top of the activity (focus) you add it and righ mouse, desktop settings and change the background the same as you did before 4. Now you have 2 different desktops so zoom in: just go to the tab at the bottom of one of the activities and click on the (+) sign. 5. Now go the cashew on the righ upper corner and select Configure plasma. There checked <different activities for each desktop> 6. Press Cashew and Shortcut setting tell you the key to press to move from one activity to the next one.
Important Note: if in one of the activities you do not find the cashew (aka toolkit) just right mouse/desktop setting then click on "Type" and there select Desktop (versus Plain desktop). Plain desktop does not include the toolkit.
Stan I use compiz-fusion where activites worked but the "Configure Plama " mess everything up, besides using compiz I do not need different backgrounds any way.
Nobody actually needs different backgrounds; having read your instructions above, I will probably give them up too. But I will save your message to reread in moments when I think I may become more forgiving of KDE for producing this mess. But if I don't have different backgrounds, I will need to find the "Picture" button you mention, so that I can replace the default background. Especially with the weak chartreuse color, it reminds me only of the bubbles coming up from a stagnant pool with something rotting at the bottom. [I am not going to rant again, I have promised myself that. I have instead purchased a small voodoo doll in which I stick pins when the realization of what they have done to a perfectly good and serviceable desktop gets to me.] I don't think the kind of thing I am seeing in this simple effort to set background is at all excusable. I would never have believed that anybody could out-Microsoft Microsoft, but they have done it -- bells and whistles above all; utility, convenience, and intuitive design mean nothing, nor does consistency. I know that I am writing with a degree of sarcasm, and can only hope that it is understood by some. I doubt that anybody at KDE will understand it.
Hope it helps.
It does, in a way. Thanks.
-=terry=-
-- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
I assume you mean the "Appearance" window that I found by MB2 on the desktop, because that is the one with the "Get New Wallpapers" button. There is no "Picture" button anywhere in it. Neither is there such a "Picture button" in the Get New Wallpapers window. In the "Appearance" button reached from Configure Desktop, there is also no "Picture" button. I don't know why I don't see what you see, in at least one of the "Appearnce" windows.
.... sigh... 1. Right mouse click on your desktop 2. Left mouse click on the Browse button immediately to the right of the Picture drop down list. (as you were told, it looks like a small floppy disk) 3. Browse your file system for the background image you want to use 4. Click Apply It's not hard. It's not confusing. It's actually very intuitive. Every single new user I've introduced to KDE4 has figured out how to change their wallpaper (Activities are a bit weird though, and I haven't frightened them with that concept yet). C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 21 Dec 2009 21:13:17 Stan Goodman wrote:
At 22:23:05 on Monday Monday 21 December 2009, Teruel de Campo MD
<chusty@attglobal.net> wrote:
On Mon, 2009-12-21 at 18:12 +0200, Stan Goodman wrote:
also with some thumbnails, but I was not able to find any way to point to a directory in which I have placed 1366x768 images that I wish to use.
Stan,
Look inside of the "Appearance" window you already found. Then then there is a field called 'Picture" on the right side there is a floppy image. Click on that and select your own image from any directory you want. Then press Apply. BTW the picture will be now on the list that you can see pressing the button just right to "Picture"
I assume you mean the "Appearance" window that I found by MB2 on the desktop, because that is the one with the "Get New Wallpapers" button. There is no "Picture" button anywhere in it. Neither is there such a "Picture button" in the Get New Wallpapers window. In the "Appearance" button reached from Configure Desktop, there is also no "Picture" button. I don't know why I don't see what you see, in at least one of the "Appearnce" windows.
But it doesn't really matter for me, since what I want to do is to have a different background in each desktop.
One that has me stumped me is how to change the background (wallpaper)on the desktop. preferably separately for each of the multiple desktops
This is a little more complicated. First it does not work if you are using the 3D desktop (compiz-fusion).
I have not investigated Compiz-Fusion yet, and now that you tell me that it would have a limiting effect rather than making KDE more livable, I won't.
Here you have to use 'Activities" this is more than a desktop but this is out of the topic (BTW is it the closest of any present OS to the WPS) Here it goes:
I am reading now about Activities, in the hope of learning if they are useful or just another gew-gaw, and I like cashews.
1. Click the cashew on the right upper corner and <zoom out>. If you do not have the cashew read the bottom of this message) 2. Add an activity 3. Then go to the top of the activity (focus) you add it and righ mouse, desktop settings and change the background the same as you did before 4. Now you have 2 different desktops so zoom in: just go to the tab at the bottom of one of the activities and click on the (+) sign. 5. Now go the cashew on the righ upper corner and select Configure plasma. There checked <different activities for each desktop> 6. Press Cashew and Shortcut setting tell you the key to press to move from one activity to the next one.
Important Note: if in one of the activities you do not find the cashew (aka toolkit) just right mouse/desktop setting then click on "Type" and there select Desktop (versus Plain desktop). Plain desktop does not include the toolkit.
Stan I use compiz-fusion where activites worked but the "Configure Plama " mess everything up, besides using compiz I do not need different backgrounds any way.
Nobody actually needs different backgrounds; having read your instructions above, I will probably give them up too. But I will save your message to reread in moments when I think I may become more forgiving of KDE for producing this mess. But if I don't have different backgrounds, I will need to find the "Picture" button you mention, so that I can replace the default background. Especially with the weak chartreuse color, it reminds me only of the bubbles coming up from a stagnant pool with something rotting at the bottom.
[I am not going to rant again, I have promised myself that. I have instead purchased a small voodoo doll in which I stick pins when the realization of what they have done to a perfectly good and serviceable desktop gets to me.]
I don't think the kind of thing I am seeing in this simple effort to set background is at all excusable. I would never have believed that anybody could out-Microsoft Microsoft, but they have done it -- bells and whistles above all; utility, convenience, and intuitive design mean nothing, nor does consistency.
I know that I am writing with a degree of sarcasm, and can only hope that it is understood by some. I doubt that anybody at KDE will understand it.
Hope it helps.
It does, in a way. Thanks.
Stan!!! Have you finished your rant!!! I am sorry but I totally agree with you. Eddie -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
* eddie <eddieleprince@sky.com> [12-22-09 04:56]:
Stan!!!
Have you finished your rant!!! I am sorry but I totally agree with you.
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