Re: [opensuse] Diff. between OpenSuSE and SuSE Linux Enterprise
The real major difference is support. OpenSUSE is free and meant to be used as a desktop Linux.It's not suited for enterprise usage because it's unstable, always changing, there's a lot to keep up with. SLED on the other hand is pretty much standard. You get a few Service Packs every so often, but for the most part, what you see is what you get. On the otherside, The only support you get on OpenSUSE is community support and maybe any literature you can find off of Amazon or Ebay. SLED, you get support from Novell when you need them. When choosing between the two, think about money, adventurous spirit, and need for support. If you think you'll need a great deal of support, get SLED, however it costs about $50. It isn't as up to speed as OpenSuSE is so if you want to have fun and play with Linux, get OpenSUSE. SLED is just supposed to provide a more stable Linux environment for businesses. If you are a true blue Linux user, go for OpenSUSE, if you want a steady environment use SLED. Of course, to many linux users, that level of steadiness is boring. So if you are used to the old SuSE, get OpenSuSE. On Wed Dec 27 12:30 , jdd sent:
Mário Gamito wrote:
Hi,
For years i was a SuSE Linux user, somewhere between 5.3 and 9.0, i believe. Then, i changed for reasons that doesn't matter now.
I'm changing jobs and i'm going to work on Enterprise Linux. I'm already downloading OpenSuSE too see hop it goes now.
My questions is what are the differences between OpenSuSE and SuSE Enterprise Linux ?
SLED is mostly an openSUSE with the Gnome desktop (see the 10.2 Gnome desktop).
The other special Novell product is Zen, a complete supervisor programm, I don't know if it's included in SLED
jdd
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Jay Smith wrote:
The real major difference is support.
OpenSUSE is free and meant to be used as a desktop Linux.It's not suited for enterprise usage because it's unstable, always changing, there's a lot to keep up with. SLED on the other hand is pretty much standard. You get a few Service Packs every so often, but for the most part, what you see is what you get.
Actually, the difference between SLED 10 and opensuse 10.1 is that SLED 10 is desktop client only, while opensuse 10.1 is much broader in scope - not only client, but server, development system, and everything else. For the most part it's the same code base, but there are a few extra tweaks on SLED. We had sled on some dev machines here, but the techs didn't like it "where's my apache web server, where's my j2ee, where's my mysql?" and they had me nuke SLED and install suse 10.1, which made them happy. SLES on the other hand is much broader than SLED, and better tested than opensuse, and it's more expensive. IIRC the kernel has some extra performance patches, and of course it's officially supported by 3rd party vendors. As for opensuse being unstable, I've found it to be pretty solid. As far as "always changing", that is under the control of the administrator, but last I checked, my suse 10.1 servers were still suse 10.1 - they had not changed into anything else, and they won't unless the administrator decides to change them.
On the otherside, The only support you get on OpenSUSE is community support and maybe any literature you can find off of Amazon or Ebay. SLED, you get support from Novell when you need them.
The support from Novell is basically there to make managers feel good. We've had 24/7 support from Novell for our SLES servers, but we really don't ever need to talk to those folks. If you've got local linux talent on hand, it's a tossup, but if you've got the budget, it's worthwhile to go for the enterprise version. Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 15:03:58 -0800 J Sloan <joe@tmsusa.com> wrote:
Jay Smith wrote:
The real major difference is support.
OpenSUSE is free and meant to be used as a desktop Linux.It's not suited for enterprise usage because it's unstable, always changing, there's a lot to keep up with. SLED on the other hand is pretty much standard. You get a few Service Packs every so often, but for the most part, what you see is what you get.
Actually, the difference between SLED 10 and opensuse 10.1 is that SLED 10 is desktop client only, while opensuse 10.1 is much broader in scope - SLED is coordinated with SLES. both are intended for the enterprise, and as youall mentioned, SLED and SLES are more stable, with firmly scheduled releases. OpenSuSE has more frequent releases, and is certainly more bleeding edge.
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Jerry Feldman wrote:
On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 15:03:58 -0800 J Sloan <joe@tmsusa.com> wrote:
Jay Smith wrote:
The real major difference is support.
OpenSUSE is free and meant to be used as a desktop Linux.It's not suited for enterprise usage because it's unstable, always changing, there's a lot to keep up with. SLED on the other hand is pretty much standard. You get a few Service Packs every so often, but for the most part, what you see is what you get.
Actually, the difference between SLED 10 and opensuse 10.1 is that SLED 10 is desktop client only, while opensuse 10.1 is much broader in scope -
SLED is coordinated with SLES. both are intended for the enterprise, and as youall mentioned, SLED and SLES are more stable, with firmly scheduled releases. OpenSuSE has more frequent releases, and is certainly more bleeding edge.
Here is something I had posted on the Novell discussion list in an attempt to clarify matters regarding the many Linux incarnations from Novell. Hope this helps: To date, as I understand it, here is the current taxonomy of Novell "Linux obfuscated" products: 1) OES: Open Enterprise Server. Runs on either a NetWare or Linux kernel. Has all assorted Novell goodies, such as NSS, LUM, NetStorage, etc. OES with the Linux kernel is based on SuSE Linux 9 - so you get older versions (older than what ships with opensuse for example) of Apache, MySQL, PHP etc. This is a commercial product. One thing to note, the "fully functioning" (as in providing functions other than just eDirectory) NCP engine is only available in this family of Linux named products from Novell - so people with various Novell clients can connect to OES boxes via the Novell client and consume services via NCP. 2) SLES: SuSE Linux Enterprise Server, and it's second cousin twice removed on the mum's side, SLED (SuSE Linux Enterprise Desktop) are pretty much all "Linux" (meaning much less Novell product contributions than for OES). These come with some Novell goodies, namely LUM and a Novell customized Samba that hooks into eDirectory easily (as opposed to not as easily if you were to use some other Linux from Novell, such as OpenSuse). There is no NSS, NetStorage etc available for this. SLES and SLED are commercial products. There is no NCP engine for SLES or SLED, other than limited NCP business installed and used if and when one installs eDirectory on this family of products. 3) OpenSuSE: This is the "truly open" (free, open source, no commercial entanglements out of the box). You get some Novell contributed enhancements, such as Novell's OpenOffice which has better integration with MS Office. No NSS, no LUM, no NetStorage etc. This product is not commercial. There is no NCP engine for SLES or SLED, other than limited NCP business installed and used if and when one installs eDirectory on this family of products. The NCP differences between item 1 versus items 2 and 3 above are important. Installing eDirectory on any Linux gives you a bare bones NCP engine that is used by eDirectory itself. eDirectory updates to Linux often update this NCP engine. This "eDirectory only" NCP engine is different from the fully functional NCP engine included in the OES family - so, for example, one has to be very very careful installing eDirectory updates to OES boxes for fear that one may inadvertently replace the fully functioning OES NCP engine with the eDirectory only NCP engine shipped in an eDirectory update. Hope the above clears up some confusion as to the myriad Linux and "Linux like" offerings from Novell - it took me quite some time to finally get an understanding. Not sure how long this scenario will last before it is change once again and we get hit with a new plethora of names and re-bundling of products. --Moby -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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