[opensuse] Comparison: OpenSuSE vs. SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop
Could anybody highlight me 'some' of the major differences between OpenSuSE 10.3 and SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 10 (SLED). Can I install SLED on my home computer without paying a free and it will not expired or stop me from using if I paying subscription fees ? Thanks. </Download?buildid=ecpCimnsrFE%7E> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Apology for typing error in my last email, see the correction with added new word (**NOT**) see below. _______________________________________________ williamkow wrote:
Could anybody highlight me 'some' of the major differences between OpenSuSE 10.3 and SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 10 (SLED).
Can I install SLED on my home computer without paying a free and it will not expired or stop me from using if I am **NOT** paying subscription fees ?
Thanks.
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On Sat, 2007-11-10 at 18:57 +0800, williamkow wrote:
williamkow wrote:
Could anybody highlight me 'some' of the major differences between OpenSuSE 10.3 and SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 10 (SLED).
Biggest difference: with SLED you have a stable solution with a predictable road map that is supported for 7 years by Novell. OpenSUSE comes with only 2 years of 'support' (=updates).
Can I install SLED on my home computer without paying a free and it will not expired or stop me from using if I am **NOT** paying subscription fees ?
You can install it for free. Nobody will stop you from using it if you are not paying the fees but you will not receive updates. Kind regards, Leo -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Leo Eraly wrote:
On Sat, 2007-11-10 at 18:57 +0800, williamkow wrote:
williamkow wrote:
Could anybody highlight me 'some' of the major differences between OpenSuSE 10.3 and SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 10 (SLED).
Biggest difference: with SLED you have a stable solution with a predictable road map that is supported for 7 years by Novell.
OpenSUSE comes with only 2 years of 'support' (=updates).
Furthermore, there are some stuff included that are not part of the openSuSE Distro (codecs and a Novell-tuned OpenOffcie for example). those things are not opensource, or at least the modifications by Novell are not. Some things you would mostly use on servers (as nessus) are missing, as SLED is intended for the Desktop. If you want a real Server Solution it would be neccessary to turn to SLES (SuSE Linux Enterpris Server). till then, Ortwin
Can I install SLED on my home computer without paying a free and it will not expired or stop me from using if I am **NOT** paying subscription fees ?
You can install it for free. Nobody will stop you from using it if you are not paying the fees but you will not receive updates.
Kind regards,
Leo
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On Saturday 10 November 2007 12:08:55 Ortwin Ebhardt wrote:
Leo Eraly wrote:
On Sat, 2007-11-10 at 18:57 +0800, williamkow wrote:
williamkow wrote:
Could anybody highlight me 'some' of the major differences between OpenSuSE 10.3 and SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 10 (SLED).
Biggest difference: with SLED you have a stable solution with a predictable road map that is supported for 7 years by Novell.
OpenSUSE comes with only 2 years of 'support' (=updates).
Furthermore, there are some stuff included that are not part of the openSuSE Distro (codecs and a Novell-tuned OpenOffcie for example). those things are not opensource, or at least the modifications by Novell are not.
Please don't spread such rumours. Of course all the modifications are open sourced, and they are actively submitted upstream to openoffice.org as well As far as I know, it is even included in opensuse The Fluendo codecs included in 10.3 aren't open source as far as I know, but they are a third party thing The main differentiator between opensuse and sled is the support Anders -- Madness takes its toll -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Anders Johansson;1325003 Wrote:
Please don't spread such rumours. Of course all the modifications are open sourced, and they are actively submitted upstream to openoffice.org as well
As far as I know, it is even included in opensuse
Doesn't the Novell edition of Openoffice.org contain licensed fonts that Novell cannot distribute freely? -- Marcel Cox http://support.novell.com/forums ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Marcel Cox's Profile: http://forumsdev.provo.novell.com/member.php?userid=8 View this thread: http://forumsdev.provo.novell.com/showthread.php?t=289370 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, 2007-11-12 at 09:11 -0700, Marcel Cox wrote:
Anders Johansson;1325003 Wrote:
Please don't spread such rumours. Of course all the modifications are open sourced, and they are actively submitted upstream to openoffice.org as well
As far as I know, it is even included in opensuse
Doesn't the Novell edition of Openoffice.org contain licensed fonts that Novell cannot distribute freely?
These are the agfa fonts. It contains licensed fonts that Novell can distribute, although others may not be able to re-distribute. They are on the media isos, but not in the online http/ftp non-oss repository apparently though (not sure why). -JP -- JP Rosevear <jpr@novell.com> Novell, Inc. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hello,
Furthermore, there are some stuff included that are not part of the openSuSE Distro (codecs and a Novell-tuned OpenOffcie for example). those things are not opensource, or at least the modifications by Novell are not.
Please don't spread such rumours. Of course all the modifications are open sourced, and they are actively submitted upstream to openoffice.org as well
I deeply appologize. I was totaly convinced about what I wrote when I wrote; as soon as I read your mail I checked. I clearly was wron. So again: Sorry. tt, Ortwin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sat, 2007-11-10 at 12:08 +0100, Ortwin Ebhardt wrote:
Leo Eraly wrote:
On Sat, 2007-11-10 at 18:57 +0800, williamkow wrote:
williamkow wrote:
Could anybody highlight me 'some' of the major differences between OpenSuSE 10.3 and SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 10 (SLED).
Biggest difference: with SLED you have a stable solution with a predictable road map that is supported for 7 years by Novell.
OpenSUSE comes with only 2 years of 'support' (=updates).
Furthermore, there are some stuff included that are not part of the openSuSE Distro (codecs and a Novell-tuned OpenOffcie for example). those things are not opensource, or at least the modifications by Novell are not.
OpenOffice is roughly the same for both although release timelines may keep the versions from being identical at times. -JP -- JP Rosevear <jpr@novell.com> Novell, Inc. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 10 November 2007 02:49:34 williamkow wrote:
Could anybody highlight me 'some' of the major differences between OpenSuSE 10.3 and SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 10 (SLED).
As some others have said in this thread, one of the major differences is support. And a commitment for a specific period of time for updates, etc. I actually bought SLED 10 for use at work, and ended up sending it back.I had issues with the dvd copy I was sent, but that alone would not have stopped me. The documentation was minimal, compared to what we received with Suse Desktop version 9.3, where we got two real manuals. The biggest problem I had was that the subset of programs offered was very anemic compared to Open Suse. Programs I rely on for work, like GnuCash, weren't there, and there aren't any third party repositories for SLED. If I remember correctly, you can use OpenSuse 10.1 repositories, but not having repositories for that distribution doesn't instill confidence. I understand why they've done this - offer a limited selection of programs makes it much simpler to support, but if you're used to the full choice of Linux programs, you might be less than happy. And while you can install a KDE desktop, SLED is set up with that dreadful (IMHO) Gnome stuff. If you're a longtime kDE user, you may be off-put by it, as I was. (Yes, you can opt for the KDE desktop, but SLED seems optimised for Gnome).
Can I install SLED on my home computer without paying a free and it will not expired or stop me from using if I paying subscription fees ?
Sure. You can download it for free and try it, from http://www.novell.com/linux/download_linux.html If what you want is an enterprise work OS with a limited number of options and a guarantee that it'll be supported for a few years, so you can count on using it without retraining staff, SLED is for you. If, on the other hand, you want access to the full range of stuff available under OpenSuse, or you're not particularly impressed by Gnome, or you want to try all the latest versions of software, then you might be hapier with OpenSuse 10.3. -- Bob Smits bob@rsmits.ca A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sat, 2007-11-10 at 18:49 +0800, williamkow wrote:
Could anybody highlight me 'some' of the major differences between OpenSuSE 10.3 and SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 10 (SLED).
Can I install SLED on my home computer without paying a free and it will not expired or stop me from using if I paying subscription fees ?
Thanks.
</Download?buildid=ecpCimnsrFE%7E>
SLED10 is Novell's fully tested and supported (Enterprise ready) version of desktop linux. It is GPL software and therefore free(as in beer) for the downloading. It will not expire or become in any way incapacitated if you do not register and or pay for a subscription. The caveat being it will also not get any security updates or patches, until you register it and pay for a subscription, after the initial 30 days of free service. It also does not get any package version upgrades. Therefore, as en example even SLED10sp1 still runs GAIM and not PIDGIN and never will, that will only change when SLED11 comes out. It doesn't mean that you can't force it, but then you might as well be on openSUSE if you are willing to change packages and use a partially tested (read as cutting edge) community version. Using SLED in any environment i.e. Home, small office, laptop, corporate headquarters is 100% OK with Novell. All Novell wants of you is to pay for an updates subscription and this is not mandatory. -- James Tremblay Director of Technology Newmarket School District 213 S. Main st Newmarket NH, 03857 603-659-3271 *318 CNE 3,4,5 MCSE w2k CLE in training Registered Linux user #440182 http://en.opensuse.org/Education Good things to read! http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_mailing_list_netiquette http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Thanks for your clear explanation. But I still have some doubt. As you said that, if I did NOT registerred and NOT paying the subscription, I will NOT able to get version upgrade and NO patches, and also the repositories may NOT allow to upgrade as well (can not GAIM to PIDGIN) So, whenever there is a new SLED version is released, SLED users can ignore to do the version upgrade, becuase no subsription, and my question is, can SLED users install the patches, manually, and then can SLED users do a manual uninstall the old version of repository (eg. GAIM) and then manually install the new version of repository (eg. PIDGIN) Please advise me whether it is possible and it is allowed by SLED ? Thanks. ____________________________________________________________________________ James Tremblay wrote:
On Sat, 2007-11-10 at 18:49 +0800, williamkow wrote:
Could anybody highlight me 'some' of the major differences between OpenSuSE 10.3 and SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 10 (SLED).
Can I install SLED on my home computer without paying a free and it will not expired or stop me from using if I NOT paying subscription fees ?
Thanks.
</Download?buildid=ecpCimnsrFE%7E>
SLED10 is Novell's fully tested and supported (Enterprise ready) version of desktop linux. It is GPL software and therefore free(as in beer) for the downloading. It will not expire or become in any way incapacitated if you do not register and or pay for a subscription. The caveat being it will also not get any security updates or patches, until you register it and pay for a subscription, after the initial 30 days of free service. It also does not get any package version upgrades. Therefore, as en example even SLED10sp1 still runs GAIM and not PIDGIN and never will, that will only change when SLED11 comes out. It doesn't mean that you can't force it, but then you might as well be on openSUSE if you are willing to change packages and use a partially tested (read as cutting edge) community version. Using SLED in any environment i.e. Home, small office, laptop, corporate headquarters is 100% OK with Novell. All Novell wants of you is to pay for an updates subscription and this is not mandatory.
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