John wrote regarding 'Re: [SLE] Website development tools' on Fri, Sep 24 at 21:13:

On Friday 24 September 2004 18:08, Paul W. Abrahams wrote:

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Can anyone here recommend a Linux website development tool with the same sort of capabilities that, say, Dreamweaver has?   I'm not looking for a clone, only for something comparable.

Having been in the business since the boom and bust of the 90's, I will make a comment here.

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There is nothing that compares to GoLive on OS X for front end Web Site development!

Linux is great for database server / enterprise bean / php serving of relational data, especially with all the SSL secure capabilities, but GoLive on OS X is the drug of choice for the presentation layer, hands down.

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I prefer to use vim on OS X, personally, sometimes with Photoshop to slice up images... :) Using vim ensures that 1) no one ever asks what I'm doing and 2) I get the same beautiful spartan interface when I go back to a good OS. Linux is great for web development, too. :) --Danny, who makes large sites by editing PHP templates or perl scripts in vim (yes, some serious developers actually edit HTML by hand)

On Friday 24 September 2004 10:12 pm, John N. Alegre wrote:

There is nothing that compares to GoLive on OS X for front end Web Site development!

Linux is great for database server / enterprise bean / php serving of relational data, especially with all the SSL secure capabilities, but GoLive on OS X is the drug of choice for the presentation layer, hands down.

OS X is Windows, right? (Not Mac OS, OS/2, or even something truly rare and exotic like the Pick operating system.) Paul

On Monday 27 September 2004 6:52 pm, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* Paul W. Abrahams [09-27-04 17:45]:

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OS X is Windows, right? (Not Mac OS, OS/2, or even something truly rare and exotic like the Pick operating system.)

You should probably google before posting something like this. Remember, google *is* your best friend.

Well, if OS X is a cute way of referring to Windows, Google won't help. But I did take your suggestion, and indeed, OS X is the operating system for Macs. Paul

* Leendert Meyer [09-27-04 18:43]:

On Tuesday 28 September 2004 00:52, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Paul W. Abrahams [09-27-04 17:45]:

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OS X is Windows, right? (Not Mac OS, OS/2, or even something truly rare and exotic like the Pick operating system.)

You should probably google before posting something like this. Remember, google *is* your best friend.

You're quite right! :) But when searching for a CSS-formatting tool (aka beautifier) for Linux, I got too many hits.

We crossed lines, threads or something here. I was referring to the statement/question "OS X is Windows, right?" < B I G - G R I N > -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/photos

Paul W. Abrahams wrote:

On Friday 24 September 2004 10:12 pm, John N. Alegre wrote:

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There is nothing that compares to GoLive on OS X for front end Web Site development!

Linux is great for database server / enterprise bean / php serving of relational data, especially with all the SSL secure capabilities, but GoLive on OS X is the drug of choice for the presentation layer, hands down.

OS X is Windows, right? (Not Mac OS, OS/2, or even something truly rare and exotic like the Pick operating system.)

OS X is the BSD based Mac OS. I guess the first 9 didn't work. ;-)

On Tuesday 28 September 2004 09:04, Carl William Spitzer IV wrote:

On Fri, 2004-09-24 at 19:12, John N. Alegre wrote:

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On Friday 24 September 2004 18:08, Paul W. Abrahams wrote:

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Can anyone here recommend a Linux website development tool with the same sort of capabilities that, say, Dreamweaver has? I'm not looking for a clone, only for something comparable.

Having been in the business since the boom and bust of the 90's, I will make a comment here.

(Flame shield up)

There is nothing that compares to GoLive on OS X for front end Web Site development!

Linux is great for database server / enterprise bean / php serving of relational data, especially with all the SSL secure capabilities, but GoLive on OS X is the drug of choice for the presentation layer, hands down.

(Flame shield down)

If its that good and with mac OS X being bsd inside, why dont they just port to *nix?

Most likely it's because of licensing problems... or maybe not. In any case, I prefer Dreamweaver 'though I haven't use it in WYSIWYG mode :p Use Quanta -- highly recommended (now part of kdewebdev3) -- - E - on SUSE 9.1 | blackbox 0.70b2 | Panasonic CF-L1 Buffalo WLI-PCM-L11GP | copperwalls was here ;) "Happy are the mild-tempered ones, since they will inherit the earth." - Matthew 5:3