Hello SuSE people Just downloaded the new apt-get sources.list. Please tell me !! What are suse-people, suser-tcousin, and suser-kpietrz ????? They weren't in my previous list. Yet, they seem to be important from some of the files they want to download. Do I need them?? Bob S.
On Tuesday 04 March 2003 02:06 am, Bob S. wrote:
Hello SuSE people
Just downloaded the new apt-get sources.list.
Please tell me !! What are suse-people, suser-tcousin, and suser-kpietrz ?????
They are SuSE users who have put together rpm's for the other SuSE'rs. tcousin usually adds multimedia rpm's, like xine,ogle,mplayer. I also found a firewall patch from the suse-people that fixed a problem about a month before it showed up on the base list.
Do I need them??
No, but that doesn't mean you should delete them. :-) -- Franklin Maurer Using SuSE 8.1
Op dinsdag 4 maart 2003 16:40, schreef Franklin Maurer:
Just downloaded the new apt-get sources.list.
Please tell me !! What are suse-people, suser-tcousin, and suser-kpietrz ?????
They are SuSE users who have put together rpm's for the other SuSE'rs. tcousin usually adds multimedia rpm's, like xine,ogle,mplayer. I also found a firewall patch from the suse-people that fixed a problem about a month before it showed up on the base list.
It's correct. The prefix "suser" says it all, which is a combination of SUSE and USER ;)
Do I need them??
No, but that doesn't mean you should delete them. :-)
-- Richard Bos Without a home the journey is endless
On Tuesday 04 March 2003 10:40, Franklin Maurer wrote:
On Tuesday 04 March 2003 02:06 am, Bob S. wrote:
Hello SuSE people
Just downloaded the new apt-get sources.list.
Please tell me !! What are suse-people, suser-tcousin, and suser-kpietrz ?????
They are SuSE users who have put together rpm's for the other SuSE'rs. tcousin usually adds multimedia rpm's, like xine,ogle,mplayer. I also found a firewall patch from the suse-people that fixed a problem about a month before it showed up on the base list.
Thanks Franklin, for the explanation, OK, but what is the significance? Are these files that are "upgrades" to base or whatever? Wouldn't some of them conflict with the regular base/whatever file? And, what happens when you do an "upgrade" the next time? Will there be conflicts between the "suser" files and the "normal" files? example: cups-libs or ghostscript-fonts ? Got another question; for you or Richard, if he is listening; What happens if you download an src rpm for an application and compile it, or just another SuSE rpm. Will apt-get know that that the application/rpm is installed and upgrade it if necessary? Thanks again, if you know, I would like to know. I have been avoiding doing this because I want my system to be "apt-get pure". I love apt-get and have successfully upgraded many times. I have upgraded from 8.0 to 8.1 amd KDE 3.0 to 3.1. I am about to do the latest dist-upgrade for Xfree86 as soon as I understand all of the problems others have been reporting. Bob S. Bob S.
On Wednesday 05 March 2003 01:36 am, Bob S. wrote:
On Tuesday 04 March 2003 10:40, Franklin Maurer wrote:
They are SuSE users who have put together rpm's for the other SuSE'rs. tcousin usually adds multimedia rpm's, like xine,ogle,mplayer. I also found a firewall patch from the suse-people that fixed a problem about a month before it showed up on the base list.
Thanks Franklin, for the explanation,
OK, but what is the significance? Are these files that are "upgrades" to base or whatever? Wouldn't some of them conflict with the regular base/whatever file?And, what happens when you do an "upgrade" the next time? Will there be conflicts between the "suser" files and the "normal" files? example: cups-libs or ghostscript-fonts ?
I can only offer you an example from my experience. The firewall I got from susers was #43. When #50 came up from the base package I tried to upgrade to that but couldn't because it was a patch update that didn't no about the #43 release. So I had to reinstall the original from the cd's and then update the firewall. I don't do "upgrade". I tend to use synaptic and choose what I want to upgrade. Maybe it's my slow connection or I'm just too cautious.
Got another question; for you or Richard, if he is listening; What happens if you download an src rpm for an application and compile it, or just another SuSE rpm. Will apt-get know that that the application/rpm is installed and upgrade it if necessary?
Probably should wait for Richard. But my understanding is that the rpm's go into a database, and that database is used by Yast, kpackage, apt and other programs.
Thanks again, if you know, I would like to know. I have been avoiding doing this because I want my system to be "apt-get pure". I love apt-get and have successfully upgraded many times. I have upgraded from 8.0 to 8.1 amd KDE 3.0 to 3.1. I am about to do the latest dist-upgrade for Xfree86 as soon as I understand all of the problems others have been reporting.
Bob S.
I guess if you're worried about an "apt-get pure" upgradeable system, you should remove them. But if you need tcousins xine,mplayer or anything else leave it or just use it as a regular ftp server. But that kinda ruins apt. -- Franklin Maurer Using SuSE 8.1
Op woensdag 5 maart 2003 07:36, schreef Bob S.:
On Tuesday 04 March 2003 10:40, Franklin Maurer wrote:
On Tuesday 04 March 2003 02:06 am, Bob S. wrote:
Hello SuSE people
Just downloaded the new apt-get sources.list.
Please tell me !! What are suse-people, suser-tcousin, and suser-kpietrz ?????
They are SuSE users who have put together rpm's for the other SuSE'rs. tcousin usually adds multimedia rpm's, like xine,ogle,mplayer. I also found a firewall patch from the suse-people that fixed a problem about a month before it showed up on the base list.
Thanks Franklin, for the explanation,
OK, but what is the significance? Are these files that are "upgrades" to base or whatever? Wouldn't some of them conflict with the regular base/whatever file? And, what happens when you do an "upgrade" the next time? Will there be conflicts between the "suser" files and the "normal" files? example: cups-libs or ghostscript-fonts ?
It's up to you if you find them important or not. Most of the times they provide just more recent versions of the packages than SuSE does. For the simple reason that SuSE provide bug fix pkgs for a release, and not the new version ones. Besides some exceptions like kde and xfree of course. What do you actually mean with a upgrade. A pkg update provided by SuSE or a full release upgrade, or an upgrade with a patch rpm? If the pkg are build correctly they are interchangable between the suser, usr-local-bin, and suse sources, it should not make a difference. Patch rpms are a little tricky as they expect a certain rpm to be there that is to be patched. In that case don't use the patch rpm, but the regular rpm.
Got another question; for you or Richard, if he is listening; What happens if you download an src rpm for an application and compile it, or just another SuSE rpm. Will apt-get know that that the application/rpm is installed and upgrade it if necessary?
Just built it with "rpm -bb ...spec" and install the resulting rpm. The rpm is administrated and many pkg installer will be happy. Or in case you don't have a spec file, install the binary files via checkinstall. Hope this helps.... -- Richard Bos Without a home the journey is endless
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