Is it possible to upgrade KDE in Leap? Does this require also an upgrade of QT? Does this upgrade also akonadi? (as akonadi/kontact in Leap 15 is getting a serious problem - system overheat, memory leak, crash on restart of Kontact).
If somebody has experience with the procedure I would appreciate a trace of: - what repos - what zypper command - experiences with the current kde version regarding kontact/akonadi
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In data venerdì 13 luglio 2018 19:49:40 CEST, stakanov ha scritto:
Is it possible to upgrade KDE in Leap? Does this require also an upgrade of QT? Does this upgrade also akonadi? (as akonadi/kontact in Leap 15 is getting a serious problem - system overheat, memory leak, crash on restart of Kontact).
If somebody has experience with the procedure I would appreciate a trace of: - what repos
- what zypper command
- experiences with the current kde version regarding kontact/akonadi
I saw the page giving the info and also that these kde packages are not stable and "testing". So not an option for me.
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Op vrijdag 13 juli 2018 19:49:40 CEST schreef stakanov:
Is it possible to upgrade KDE in Leap? Does this require also an upgrade of QT? Does this upgrade also akonadi? (as akonadi/kontact in Leap 15 is getting a serious problem - system overheat, memory leak, crash on restart of Kontact).
If somebody has experience with the procedure I would appreciate a trace of: - what repos
- what zypper command
- experiences with the current kde version regarding kontact/akonadi
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There's a couple of things you can do: Remove the baloo indexes Remove the search_db from ~/.local/share/akonadi Or Change to Postgresql. My ( and not mine alone ) experiences are that it takes less resources, is quicker.
On 2018-07-13 05:31 PM, Knurpht-openSUSE wrote:
There's a couple of things you can do: Remove the baloo indexes Remove the search_db from ~/.local/share/akonadi
What are the implications of deleting all the baloo-related packages from teh system?
* Darryl Gregorash raven@accesscomm.ca [07-13-18 22:32]:
On 2018-07-13 05:31 PM, Knurpht-openSUSE wrote:
There's a couple of things you can do: Remove the baloo indexes Remove the search_db from ~/.local/share/akonadi
What are the implications of deleting all the baloo-related packages from teh system?
check and see: zypper -v -D rm `rpm -qa *baloo*`
will do nothing to your system but tell you what it would do
zypper --help
On 2018-07-13 09:06 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
- Darryl Gregorash raven@accesscomm.ca [07-13-18 22:32]:
On 2018-07-13 05:31 PM, Knurpht-openSUSE wrote:
There's a couple of things you can do: Remove the baloo indexes Remove the search_db from ~/.local/share/akonadi
What are the implications of deleting all the baloo-related packages from teh system?
check and see: zypper -v -D rm `rpm -qa *baloo*`
will do nothing to your system but tell you what it would do
zypper --help
~ # zypper -v -D rm `rpm -qa *baloo*` Verbosity: 1 Unknown command 'baloo5-file-5.45.0-lp150.2.1.x86_64' Type 'zypper help' to get a list of global options and commands.
In case 'baloo5-file-5.45.0-lp150.2.1.x86_64' is not a typo it's probably not a built-in command, but provided as a subcommand or plug-in (see 'zypper help subcommand'). In this case a specific package providing the subcommand needs to be installed first. Those packages are often named 'zypper-baloo5-file-5.45.0-lp150.2.1.x86_64' or 'zypper-baloo5-file-5.45.0-lp150.2.1.x86_64-plugin'
According to the --help panel:
--reposd-dir, -D <dir> Use alternative repository definition file directory There does not seem to be an option to "just test what this will do".
* Darryl Gregorash raven@accesscomm.ca [07-14-18 08:01]:
On 2018-07-13 09:06 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
- Darryl Gregorash raven@accesscomm.ca [07-13-18 22:32]:
On 2018-07-13 05:31 PM, Knurpht-openSUSE wrote:
There's a couple of things you can do: Remove the baloo indexes Remove the search_db from ~/.local/share/akonadi
What are the implications of deleting all the baloo-related packages from teh system?
check and see: zypper -v -D rm `rpm -qa *baloo*`
will do nothing to your system but tell you what it would do
zypper --help
~ # zypper -v -D rm `rpm -qa *baloo*` Verbosity: 1 Unknown command 'baloo5-file-5.45.0-lp150.2.1.x86_64' Type 'zypper help' to get a list of global options and commands.
In case 'baloo5-file-5.45.0-lp150.2.1.x86_64' is not a typo it's probably not a built-in command, but provided as a subcommand or plug-in (see 'zypper help subcommand'). In this case a specific package providing the subcommand needs to be installed first. Those packages are often named 'zypper-baloo5-file-5.45.0-lp150.2.1.x86_64' or 'zypper-baloo5-file-5.45.0-lp150.2.1.x86_64-plugin'
According to the --help panel:
--reposd-dir, -D <dir> Use alternative repository definition file directory There does not seem to be an option to "just test what this will do".
zypper rm --help -D, --dry-run Test the removal, do not actually remove.
and the command line I provided has incorrect order for parameters
zypper -v rm -D `rpm -qa *baloo*`
will provide you with the "implications".
On 2018-07-14 06:10 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
zypper -v rm -D `rpm -qa *baloo*`
Yes, that makes a _very_ big difference.
~ # <blahblah> The following 3 patterns are going to be REMOVED: kde 20170319-lp150.7.1 kde_imaging 20170319-lp150.7.1 kde_plasma 20170319-lp150.7.1 (etc)
Oops! Rather mind boggling, I wouldn't have thought it was necessary to run some fancy search mechanism just so one could use a graphical desktop.
So, the next question is: does this thing run by itself? If so, can it be turned off (and what would be the implications of that)? And if it can be turned off without impairing the system functionality, how would one go about doing that? I've been completely unable to find any configuration or on/off switch for baloo anywhere on the system.
* Darryl Gregorash raven@accesscomm.ca [07-14-18 12:30]:
On 2018-07-14 06:10 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
zypper -v rm -D `rpm -qa *baloo*`
Yes, that makes a _very_ big difference.
~ # <blahblah> The following 3 patterns are going to be REMOVED: kde 20170319-lp150.7.1 kde_imaging 20170319-lp150.7.1 kde_plasma 20170319-lp150.7.1 (etc)
Oops! Rather mind boggling, I wouldn't have thought it was necessary to run some fancy search mechanism just so one could use a graphical desktop.
So, the next question is: does this thing run by itself? If so, can it be turned off (and what would be the implications of that)? And if it can be turned off without impairing the system functionality, how would one go about doing that? I've been completely unable to find any configuration or on/off switch for baloo anywhere on the system.
so next you would consult the man pages for the baloo incantations, hint baloo<tab><tab>
and investigate balooctl
also you might see which of the baloo... packages can be removed w/o removing kde.... packages. use the same type of zypper search as before but w/o including *all* of the *baloo* packages.
tell us what you find. or if you need more help/pointing.
On 2018-07-14 10:42 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
tell us what you find
I found there are no man pages for anything baloo* :D
~ # balooctl status Baloo Index could not be opened
which I assume is a good thing (at least for my purposes).
I notice there is also a balooctl config command. I assume there is some reason why this could not be configurable within YaST, but that probably isn't something that is of real concern right now.
All in all, it looks like baloo isn't getting in my way at any point. The occasional CPU core pegged at 100% that does occur here must be coming from somewhere else, but I have not been able to track anything down. I had simply assumed it might be because of some file searching/indexing.
TY for the help, Patrick. Appreciated, as always.
In data sabato 14 luglio 2018 01:31:31 CEST, Knurpht-openSUSE ha scritto:
Op vrijdag 13 juli 2018 19:49:40 CEST schreef stakanov:
Is it possible to upgrade KDE in Leap? Does this require also an upgrade of QT? Does this upgrade also akonadi? (as akonadi/kontact in Leap 15 is getting a serious problem - system overheat, memory leak, crash on restart of Kontact).
If somebody has experience with the procedure I would appreciate a trace of: - what repos
- what zypper command
- experiences with the current kde version regarding kontact/akonadi
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There's a couple of things you can do: Remove the baloo indexes Remove the search_db from ~/.local/share/akonadi Or Change to Postgresql. My ( and not mine alone ) experiences are that it takes less resources, is quicker.
Postgresql: without loosing your mail?
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On Saturday, 14 July 2018 08:10:16 BST stakanov wrote:
In data sabato 14 luglio 2018 01:31:31 CEST, Knurpht-openSUSE ha scritto:
Op vrijdag 13 juli 2018 19:49:40 CEST schreef stakanov:
Is it possible to upgrade KDE in Leap? Does this require also an upgrade of QT? Does this upgrade also akonadi? (as akonadi/kontact in Leap 15 is getting a serious problem - system overheat, memory leak, crash on restart of Kontact).
If somebody has experience with the procedure I would appreciate a trace of: - what repos
- what zypper command
- experiences with the current kde version regarding kontact/akonadi
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There's a couple of things you can do: Remove the baloo indexes Remove the search_db from ~/.local/share/akonadi Or Change to Postgresql. My ( and not mine alone ) experiences are that it takes less resources, is quicker.
Postgresql: without loosing your mail?
I didn't lose any when I changed over. it made kmail and akonadictl fsck/vacuum faster (i hardly ever need to run akonadictl anymore)
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In data sabato 14 luglio 2018 11:21:47 CEST, Ianseeks ha scritto:
On Saturday, 14 July 2018 08:10:16 BST stakanov wrote:
In data sabato 14 luglio 2018 01:31:31 CEST, Knurpht-openSUSE ha scritto:
Op vrijdag 13 juli 2018 19:49:40 CEST schreef stakanov:
Is it possible to upgrade KDE in Leap? Does this require also an upgrade of QT? Does this upgrade also akonadi? (as akonadi/kontact in Leap 15 is getting a serious problem - system overheat, memory leak, crash on restart of Kontact).
If somebody has experience with the procedure I would appreciate a trace of: - what repos
- what zypper command
- experiences with the current kde version regarding kontact/akonadi
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There's a couple of things you can do: Remove the baloo indexes Remove the search_db from ~/.local/share/akonadi Or Change to Postgresql. My ( and not mine alone ) experiences are that it takes less resources, is quicker.
Postgresql: without loosing your mail?
I didn't lose any when I changed over. it made kmail and akonadictl fsck/vacuum faster (i hardly ever need to run akonadictl anymore)
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any howto on how to do the change?
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Op zaterdag 14 juli 2018 12:09:33 CEST schreef stakanov:
In data sabato 14 luglio 2018 11:21:47 CEST, Ianseeks ha scritto:
On Saturday, 14 July 2018 08:10:16 BST stakanov wrote:
In data sabato 14 luglio 2018 01:31:31 CEST, Knurpht-openSUSE ha
scritto:
Op vrijdag 13 juli 2018 19:49:40 CEST schreef stakanov:
Is it possible to upgrade KDE in Leap? Does this require also an upgrade of QT? Does this upgrade also akonadi? (as akonadi/kontact in Leap 15 is getting a serious problem - system overheat, memory leak, crash on restart of Kontact).
If somebody has experience with the procedure I would appreciate a trace of: - what repos
- what zypper command
- experiences with the current kde version regarding kontact/akonadi
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There's a couple of things you can do: Remove the baloo indexes Remove the search_db from ~/.local/share/akonadi Or Change to Postgresql. My ( and not mine alone ) experiences are that it takes less resources, is quicker.
Postgresql: without loosing your mail?
I didn't lose any when I changed over. it made kmail and akonadictl fsck/vacuum faster (i hardly ever need to run akonadictl anymore)
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any howto on how to do the change?
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Install postgresql 9.6 ( not 10, if that's installed use update-alternatives --config postgresql ) Stop akonadi, move ~/.local/share/akonadi so that you can go back Change ~/.config/akonadi/akonadiserverrc like this ============== [Debug] Tracer=null
[%General] Driver=QPSQL
[QPSQL] Host=/tmp/akonadi-YOURUSERNAME.SOMEHASH InitDbPath=/usr/bin/initdb Name=akonadi Options= ServerPath=/usr/bin/pg_ctl StartServer=true ============== Start akonadi and the database will be rebuilt. Took about 20 minutes for 7 IMAP, 1 POP account, total of ~150.000 emails. On Leap you may need some extra KDE Framework lib, but AFAIK that's no longer needed.
In data sabato 14 luglio 2018 12:42:29 CEST, Knurpht-openSUSE ha scritto:
Op zaterdag 14 juli 2018 12:09:33 CEST schreef stakanov:
In data sabato 14 luglio 2018 11:21:47 CEST, Ianseeks ha scritto:
On Saturday, 14 July 2018 08:10:16 BST stakanov wrote:
In data sabato 14 luglio 2018 01:31:31 CEST, Knurpht-openSUSE ha
scritto:
Op vrijdag 13 juli 2018 19:49:40 CEST schreef stakanov:
Is it possible to upgrade KDE in Leap? Does this require also an upgrade of QT? Does this upgrade also akonadi? (as akonadi/kontact in Leap 15 is getting a serious problem - system overheat, memory leak, crash on restart of Kontact).
If somebody has experience with the procedure I would appreciate a trace of: - what repos
- what zypper command
- experiences with the current kde version regarding
kontact/akonadi
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There's a couple of things you can do: Remove the baloo indexes Remove the search_db from ~/.local/share/akonadi Or Change to Postgresql. My ( and not mine alone ) experiences are that it takes less resources, is quicker.
Postgresql: without loosing your mail?
I didn't lose any when I changed over. it made kmail and akonadictl fsck/vacuum faster (i hardly ever need to run akonadictl anymore)
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any howto on how to do the change?
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Install postgresql 9.6 ( not 10, if that's installed use update-alternatives --config postgresql )
I do not understand this, I do run postgres --config postgresql after having it installed from the terminal?
Stop akonadi, move ~/.local/share/akonadi so that you can go back Change ~/.config/akonadi/akonadiserverrc like this ============== [Debug] Tracer=null
[%General] Driver=QPSQL
[QPSQL] Host=/tmp/akonadi-YOURUSERNAME.SOMEHASH InitDbPath=/usr/bin/initdb Name=akonadi Options= ServerPath=/usr/bin/pg_ctl StartServer=true ============== Start akonadi and the database will be rebuilt. Took about 20 minutes for 7 IMAP, 1 POP account, total of ~150.000 emails. On Leap you may need some extra KDE Framework lib, but AFAIK that's no longer needed.
Postgres96 client or server? I suppose client. I have seen it does draw in forcefully(!) also postgressql10 and and postgresql (version 10 also).
BTW why not version 10? Is it known to have problems?
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In data domenica 15 luglio 2018 15:58:12 CEST, stakanov ha scritto:
In data sabato 14 luglio 2018 12:42:29 CEST, Knurpht-openSUSE ha scritto:
Op zaterdag 14 juli 2018 12:09:33 CEST schreef stakanov:
In data sabato 14 luglio 2018 11:21:47 CEST, Ianseeks ha scritto:
On Saturday, 14 July 2018 08:10:16 BST stakanov wrote:
In data sabato 14 luglio 2018 01:31:31 CEST, Knurpht-openSUSE ha
scritto:
Op vrijdag 13 juli 2018 19:49:40 CEST schreef stakanov: > Is it possible to upgrade KDE in Leap? > Does this require also an upgrade of QT? > Does this upgrade also akonadi? (as akonadi/kontact in Leap 15 > is > getting > a > serious problem - system overheat, memory leak, crash on restart > of > Kontact). > > If somebody has experience with the procedure I would appreciate > a > trace > of: - what repos > - what zypper command > - experiences with the current kde version regarding > kontact/akonadi > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > _ > ________________________________________________________ > Ihre E-Mail-Postf�cher sicher & zentral an einem Ort. Jetzt > wechseln > und > alte E-Mail-Adresse mitnehmen! https://www.eclipso.de
There's a couple of things you can do: Remove the baloo indexes Remove the search_db from ~/.local/share/akonadi Or Change to Postgresql. My ( and not mine alone ) experiences are that it takes less resources, is quicker.
Postgresql: without loosing your mail?
I didn't lose any when I changed over. it made kmail and akonadictl fsck/vacuum faster (i hardly ever need to run akonadictl anymore)
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any howto on how to do the change?
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Install postgresql 9.6 ( not 10, if that's installed use update-alternatives --config postgresql )
I do not understand this, I do run postgres --config postgresql after having it installed from the terminal?
Stop akonadi, move ~/.local/share/akonadi so that you can go back Change ~/.config/akonadi/akonadiserverrc like this ============== [Debug] Tracer=null
[%General] Driver=QPSQL
[QPSQL] Host=/tmp/akonadi-YOURUSERNAME.SOMEHASH InitDbPath=/usr/bin/initdb Name=akonadi Options= ServerPath=/usr/bin/pg_ctl StartServer=true ============== Start akonadi and the database will be rebuilt. Took about 20 minutes for 7 IMAP, 1 POP account, total of ~150.000 emails. On Leap you may need some extra KDE Framework lib, but AFAIK that's no longer needed.
Postgres96 client or server? I suppose client. I have seen it does draw in forcefully(!) also postgressql10 and and postgresql (version 10 also).
BTW why not version 10? Is it known to have problems?
Opened a dedicated thread with "switching to postgres for this. So closed.
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On 13/07/18 01:49 PM, stakanov wrote:
Is it possible to upgrade KDE in Leap? Does this require also an upgrade of QT? Does this upgrade also akonadi? (as akonadi/kontact in Leap 15 is getting a serious problem - system overheat, memory leak, crash on restart of Kontact).
If somebody has experience with the procedure I would appreciate a trace of:
- what repos
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Applications/KDE_Frameworks5_...
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Qt5/openSUSE_Leap_15.0/
- what zypper command
zypper up help
- experiences with the current kde version regarding kontact/akonadi
My opinion: unstable unusable.
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In data sabato 14 luglio 2018 02:50:58 CEST, Anton Aylward ha scritto:
My opinion: unstable unusable.
Yes but then I read that unstable packages are in the repo so the system gets worse than using TW. So why do this to oneself. Currently the reason why I want to change something is: a memory leak that brings the system to shutdown with 100°C and that consumes 8GB of RAM plus(!) 2-3 GB SWAP until the OS goes down. With 42.3 I did have only the crash of video if switching session fast, at least wlan worked and I had no memory leak. But indexes were also broken in kmail. When is end of life of 42.3, downgrade and try to weather it out until a 15.1 brings maybe a usable kernel might be an option.
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