See size of composed email message?
Hi, my question for you is if it is possible for me to see the size of an email message, that I am composing while using Thunderbird? I just sent a message to the linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org mailing list and am hoping it was not larger than 100k in size. -Thanks
I just picked a random message in my inbox and did a "save as" to a *.txt file. You could probably take the draft and save it, then do the same with it... Yep, worked with this message.
On 02-28-2024 10:05PM, Bill Swisher wrote:
I just picked a random message in my inbox and did a "save as" to a *.txt file. You could probably take the draft and save it, then do the same with it... Yep, worked with this message.
Thank you for your message. I see that I can save as a 'file' but in html format. I'm trying to write to this btrfs list and they do not want any html format. The message is only 90.1 kb so it is within size range I believe.
I see that I can save as a 'file' but in html format. The format of the file you save is pretty immaterial. You won't be sending that file anyhow. Just check the size of the file that it creates to give you something to base an estimate on, then delete the file. But as I said later...it's only your text that's exported, not any attachments. You'd have to add the size of the attachment(s) to the size of the text, and a fudge factor for overhead.
On 02-28-2024 10:59PM, Bill Swisher wrote:
I see that I can save as a 'file' but in html format. The format of the file you save is pretty immaterial. You won't be sending that file anyhow. Just check the size of the file that it creates to give you something to base an estimate on, then delete the file. But as I said later...it's only your text that's exported, not any attachments. You'd have to add the size of the attachment(s) to the size of the text, and a fudge factor for overhead.
Very Good.
From: -pj via openSUSE Users <users@lists.opensuse.org> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 21:36:12 -0600 Hi, my question for you is if it is possible for me to see the size of an email message, that I am composing while using Thunderbird? I just sent a message to the linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org mailing list and am hoping it was not larger than 100k in size. -Thanks The most verbose MIME encoding is base64, and that increases the size of an attachment by only a third. So if you add up all the sizes (in bytes!) of your attachments and text and multiply by 1.35 (or 1.4, depending on how conservative you want to be about MIME overhead), that should give you a pretty solid upper bound on the size of the resulting message. -- Bob Rogers http://www.rgrjr.com/
* -pj via openSUSE Users <users@lists.opensuse.org> [02-28-24 22:38]:
Hi, my question for you is if it is possible for me to see the size of an email message, that I am composing while using Thunderbird? I just sent a message to the linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org mailing list and am hoping it was not larger than 100k in size.
100k is about 50k tooooo much use file sharing services and post urls. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc
On 02-28-2024 10:16PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* -pj via openSUSE Users <users@lists.opensuse.org> [02-28-24 22:38]:
Hi, my question for you is if it is possible for me to see the size of an email message, that I am composing while using Thunderbird? I just sent a message to the linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org mailing list and am hoping it was not larger than 100k in size.
100k is about 50k tooooo much use file sharing services and post urls.
I was told no one will read it and the metadate will just be compiled to a kernel or bug. I used my GMX email account and they claim it looked like spam I guess. I did not use this account on Thunderbird because of the large flow of openSUSE emails coming in here right now. I suppose I could set up another email account in Thunderbird. I forwarded the message again to them.
Hello, In the Message; Subject : Re: See size of composed email message? Message-ID : <a2294a53-c222-47ad-bacf-d5cfa81562d5@gmx.com> Date & Time: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 22:20:40 -0600 [pj] == -pj via openSUSE Users <users@lists.opensuse.org> has written: pj> On 02-28-2024 10:16PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote: [...] pj>>> sent a message to the linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org mailing list and am pj>>> hoping it was not larger than 100k in size. PS> > 100k is about 50k tooooo much PS> > use file sharing services and post urls. pj> I was told no one will read it and the metadate will just be compiled to pj> a kernel or bug. As Patrick pointed out, it is too huge. You should consider the reader and post an email with the smallest file size necessary. pj> I used my GMX email account and they claim it looked like spam I pj> guess. They are not talking about your account, but about the structure of the e-mail you sent. In short, they are telling you not to send mail with Content-Type: text/html format. Kind Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "As Google fights for positioning in a new AI boom and an era where some consumers are turning to TikTok or ChatGPT instead of Google Search, some employees now worry product development could become dangerously hasty. The restructuring of RESIN has increased those concerns, the sources say." -- Google Splits Up a Key AI Ethics Watchdog --
-pj via openSUSE Users composed on 2024-02-28 22:36 (UTC-0500):
Hi, my question for you is if it is possible for me to see the size of an email message, that I am composing while using Thunderbird? I just sent a message to the linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org mailing list and am hoping it was not larger than 100k in size.
If TB is like SM, and if autosave to drafts folder is enabled, you can see size in the size column in the drafts folder if it is selected to be shown, and you allow enough time for autosave to trigger on the current compose. After a few minutes' wait, this one came in at 1.7 KB, which when you get it will probably be at least 6KB due to sending overhead and list headers. The % gap between composition size and received size naturally narrows as the original size increases, so all the draft size is good for is a basis to estimate. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata
On 02-28-2024 10:22PM, Felix Miata wrote:
-pj via openSUSE Users composed on 2024-02-28 22:36 (UTC-0500):
Hi, my question for you is if it is possible for me to see the size of an email message, that I am composing while using Thunderbird? I just sent a message to the linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org mailing list and am hoping it was not larger than 100k in size.
If TB is like SM, and if autosave to drafts folder is enabled, you can see size in the size column in the drafts folder if it is selected to be shown, and you allow enough time for autosave to trigger on the current compose. After a few minutes' wait, this one came in at 1.7 KB, which when you get it will probably be at least 6KB due to sending overhead and list headers. The % gap between composition size and received size naturally narrows as the original size increases, so all the draft size is good for is a basis to estimate.
Hey, with Thunderbird I am not seeing a way to see the messages sizes. I do not know "SM" meaning. I do have "autosave" on. Saving automatically every 3 minutes. I do think it would be nice to see message sizes in Thunderbird under the date and time the message was sent. Previously I was able to adjust Thunderbird timestamps with this: 1. intl.date_time.pattern_override.connector_short <- Name {1} 'AT' {0} <- Preference 2. intl.date_time.pattern_override.date_short <- Name MM-dd-yyyy <- Preference 3. intl.date_time.pattern_override.time_short <- Name hh:mmbbbb <- Preference See this -> https://paste.opensuse.org/pastes/035d173b5390 Would there be a way to put size right under date and time to the left of the favorite star? I am certain there is but I do not know how. Also I have not read up on it much and this all may have been a poor question but I was feeling exasperated with this btrfs mailing list issue.
-pj via openSUSE Users composed on 2024-02-28 23:19 (UTC-0600):
Would there be a way to put size right under date and time to the left of the favorite star? I am certain there is but I do not know how.
Check out the tags folder view: <https://blog.thunderbird.net/2023/08/make-thunderbird-yours-how-to-get-the-thunderbird-115-supernova-look/> From what I can see on the image there, it seems ought to be similar to SM's mode I use that includes a size column. SM is SeaMonkey, the replacement name of Mozilla, from which TB was originally forked, and with which TB shares code. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata
On 02-28-2024 11:40PM, Felix Miata wrote:
-pj via openSUSE Users composed on 2024-02-28 23:19 (UTC-0600):
Would there be a way to put size right under date and time to the left of the favorite star? I am certain there is but I do not know how.
Check out the tags folder view: <https://blog.thunderbird.net/2023/08/make-thunderbird-yours-how-to-get-the-thunderbird-115-supernova-look/>
From what I can see on the image there, it seems ought to be similar to SM's mode I use that includes a size column.
SM is SeaMonkey, the replacement name of Mozilla, from which TB was originally forked, and with which TB shares code.
Oh yes Sea Monkey. I have used the that web browser before. Thank you for your thoughts on this.
On 2024-02-29 06:19, -pj via openSUSE Users wrote:
On 02-28-2024 10:22PM, Felix Miata wrote:
Hey, with Thunderbird I am not seeing a way to see the messages sizes.
You just have to enable the "size" column. You choose what to display. https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1139848 -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.5 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 2024-02-29 04:36, -pj via openSUSE Users wrote:
Hi, my question for you is if it is possible for me to see the size of an email message, that I am composing while using Thunderbird? I just sent a message to the linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org mailing list and am hoping it was not larger than 100k in size.
Simple: tell TB to save the draft. Then look in the draft folder the size of the message :-) You have, of course, to enable the size column. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.5 x86_64 at Telcontar)
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