[S.u.S.E. Linux] sgml-tools and nsgmls
sgml(-)tools coming with SuSE 5.2 (`Snapshot') seem to expect a utility /usr/bin/nsgmls, and it doesn't find it. Actually also emacs/psgml could cooperate with that thing. Where shall I get this beast from? ---------- During the last few years I have got the impression SuSE Linux runs and installs `quite' smoothly ..., but sometimes ... Yes, I know sgml(-)tools are `alpha', but anyway nobody at SuSE recognized the dependency on nsgmls. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
Jochen_Hayek@ACM.org writes: | sgml(-)tools coming with SuSE 5.2 (`Snapshot') seem | to expect a utility /usr/bin/nsgmls, | and it doesn't find it. That's pretty ugly. You'll need /ftp.gwdg.de:/pub/linux/suse/5.2/suse/sgm1/sp.rpm (1,7 MB) | Actually also emacs/psgml could cooperate with that thing. Yes, you're absolutely right. But please note, the "Snapshot" collection only is a small S.u.S.E. Linux system -- but in general all distributed packages should work, of course. We divided the jade_dsl package in two packages (now "jade_dsl" and "sp") and missed to reflect this change while make the sgml-tools package. | Yes, I know sgml(-)tools are `alpha', | but anyway nobody at SuSE recognized the dependency on nsgmls. The SGMLtools are quite mature these days. -- Karl Eichwalder S.u.S.E. GmbH Fax +49-911-3206727 ke@suse.de Gebhardtstrasse 2 Mo & Th 13:00-18:00: <A HREF="http://www.suse.de/~ke/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.de/~ke/</A">http://www.suse.de/~ke/</A</A>> 90762 Fuerth, Germany Hotline +49-911-3247130 - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
"KE" == Karl Eichwalder <ke@suse.de> writes:
KE> [...] KE> But please note, the "Snapshot" collection only is a small KE> S.u.S.E. Linux system Got you now :-<< (nothing against you, Karl -- this is a company policy problem!) Are you actually saying `Snapshot' means `small'?!?? No, I'm *not* in quibbling now. I have found that ennoying for the *last* *few* *years*. I *love* SuSE Linux distribution, but I *hate* this eyewashing `Snapshot' vs. `non-Snapshot' thing. Sorry, but this had to be said once. <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Product/Snap/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Product/Snap/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Product/Snap/index.html</A</A>> : [...] Linux Snapshot is the solution of choice for experienced users who want to upgrade from a previous version of our flagship product, S.u.S.E. Linux. [...] Does upgrading nowadays mean losing value? But you actually lose value, if certain packages don't get updated with `Snapshot' distribution releases, because the updated versions are only being delivered with the `non-Snapshot' distribution. E.g. take amd.rpm (the Berkley automounter): it's coming with the `non-Snapshot' distribution, but not with the `Snapshot' distribution. Let's assume I started with a `non-Snapshot' distribution release 1.5 years ago. Meanwhile I'm not getting amd.rpm updated, because I've got a `subscription' on the `Snapshot' distribution. (And they regard a `subscription' and a `standing order' as different things ...) So is this on purpose? or is this a hole in the system? or ...? I stated this in another article here: I am actually only interested in high frequent updates of SuSE's german-quality Linux distribution, containing as many (free and/or commercial) packages as possible. This implies, I only need&want the 1st CD-ROM out of that series of SuSE Linux distribution CD-ROM-s, and I'm willing to pay the same amount (*or* *more*) as before, when I received that 4 or 6 CD-ROM-s series. KE> -- but in general all distributed packages should work, of course. Alright, just deliver one series at whatever price, that will do. KE> [...] Don't you forget: I am a `confessing' SuSE Linux supporter. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
Jochen_Hayek@ACM.org writes: | Are you actually saying `Snapshot' means `small'?!?? Actually, it isn't small -- but it's _smaller_ than the regular S.u.S.E. Linux Distribution (the "flagship product"). It's simply a space problem: all the 4 (or now 5) CD-ROMs won't fit on the snapshot CD-ROMs -- people want to see all the other mirror sites there. | <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Product/Snap/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Product/Snap/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Product/Snap/index.html</A</A>> : | | [...] | Linux Snapshot is the solution of choice for experienced users who | want to upgrade from a previous version of our flagship product, | S.u.S.E. Linux. | [...] It's hard to write the right text there; I guess, it could be improved. To say it clearly: if you want to update all and everything you should not use the snapshot collection. | Don't you forget: I am a `confessing' SuSE Linux supporter. Thanks! Concerning your second point (if I understand it right): I don't know, whether it is possible to shorten the update circle of the regular S.u.S.E. Linux Distribution. Most of our customers seem to be quite happy with 3 (or 4) update p.a. I hope, my words don't sound to strange: my english isn't the best... -- Karl Eichwalder S.u.S.E. GmbH Fax +49-911-3206727 ke@suse.de Gebhardtstrasse 2 Mo & Th 13:00-18:00: <A HREF="http://www.suse.de/~ke/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.de/~ke/</A">http://www.suse.de/~ke/</A</A>> 90762 Fuerth, Germany Hotline +49-911-3247130 - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
On 20 Jul 1998, Karl Eichwalder wrote:
Thanks! Concerning your second point (if I understand it right): I don't know, whether it is possible to shorten the update circle of the regular S.u.S.E. Linux Distribution. Most of our customers seem to be quite happy with 3 (or 4) update p.a.
I hope, my words don't sound to strange: my english isn't the best...
3 to 4 is good for me personally. I would hate it if SuSE came out with stuff so often and so frequently that it got confusing. You'd have to check the specs of each release to see if there was a point in installing and pick which ones made changes that were worth going through the process of upgrading and which ones to get. To me that sounds tedious. No, I think the current SuSE formula is excellent. Just my 2 cents.( have to be careful what I say these days ---_apparently_) Michael - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
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