[opensuse] How about integrating real 3D desktop - Looking Glass into openSUSE ?
hi all ! I think we need to support a real 3D desktop under Linux - not XGL/compiz, but Looking Glass. I set that up on openSUSE 10.2, but having some difficulties afterwards, but together we will resolves those issues ! namely: I still do not know how to run X-apps under it, but this feature exists. What do you think of it? https://lg3d.dev.java.net/lg3d-getting-started.html I would like to push that into openSUSE. -Alexey. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 06 January 2007 09:30, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
hi all !
I think we need to support a real 3D desktop under Linux - not XGL/compiz, but Looking Glass.
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What do you think of it?
What real utility does it have beyond the "wow factor" or eye candy value?
https://lg3d.dev.java.net/lg3d-getting-started.html
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-Alexey.
Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
What do you think of it?
What real utility does it have beyond the "wow factor" or eye candy value? It will make work easier.
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=looking+glass+3d&search=Search -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
I think this is a great idea. I run LookingGlass live CD on an IBM P-IV and it was quite slow, I guess when we talk about 3-D it is all about hardware, but the new interactions with information in such an environment are worth looking at in my mind. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
I think this is a great idea. I run LookingGlass live CD on an IBM P-IV and it was quite slow, I guess when we talk about 3-D it is all about hardware, but the new interactions with information in such an environment are worth looking at in my mind.
If you like to run it, have extra rpms. ;) Such eye candy stuff depends on hardware. If you prefer fluxbox or xfce then such desktops or window managers are useless. Besides think of old hardware. I do still run my Pentium I-II-III, AMD K6-K7 boxes. I do prefer hardware do the computing and crunch data while it is for daily use. -- Goksin Akdeniz www.enixma.org www.linuxnet.com.tr
Am Samstag, 6. Januar 2007 18:35 schrieb Randall R Schulz:
I think we need to support a real 3D desktop under Linux - not XGL/compiz, but Looking Glass.
What real utility does it have beyond the "wow factor" or eye candy value?
I played around a bit with that, they have a live cd out, and it's so totally unlike compiz/beryl. those two are _nothing_ but eye candy (tasty eye candy, though), but lg3d is a new approach to how a desktop environment might work, with the help of hardware 3d acceleration. i'd _love_ to see suse-usable rpm packages for that soon. bye, MH -- Die unaufgeforderte Zusendung einer Werbemail an Privatleute verstößt gegen §1 UWG und 823 I BGB (Beschluß des LG Berlin vom 2.8.1998 Az: 16 O 201/98). Jede kommerzielle Nutzung der übermittelten persönlichen Daten sowie deren Weitergabe an Dritte ist ausdrücklich untersagt! gpg key fingerprint: 5F64 4C92 9B77 DE37 D184 C5F9 B013 44E7 27BD 763C -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2007-01-06 12:18, Mathias Homann wrote:
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i'd _love_ to see suse-usable rpm packages for that soon.
You can put wishlist items into the bugzilla (as enhancement suggestions) :-) There is also a wishlist page at opensuse.org, isn't there? -- The best way to accelerate a computer running Windows is at 9.81 m/s² -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Mathias Homann wrote:
I played around a bit with that, they have a live cd out, and it's so totally unlike compiz/beryl. those two are _nothing_ but eye candy (tasty eye candy, though), but lg3d is a new approach to how a desktop environment might work, with the help of hardware 3d acceleration.
I remember 3D desktops... at least 10 years ago :-) there is certainly some good things we could have when the HW will be cheap (very soon) - may be something as large as mouse versus xterm, but most have to be discovered :-) the real thing will be 3D Hardware :-) it's very near, industry modeling have a great need of this :-) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/mediawiki/index.php/GPS_Lowrance_GO -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 06 January 2007 08:30, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
hi all !
I think we need to support a real 3D desktop under Linux - not XGL/compiz, but Looking Glass.
As soon as we have 3D monitors available it may become worthwhile. Given that we don't have such hardware, how can one call one 2D representation of 3D any more "REAL" than the next? -- _____________________________________ John Andersen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
As soon as we have 3D monitors available it may become worthwhile.
Given that we don't have such hardware, how can one call one 2D representation of 3D any more "REAL" than the next?
Good point. Anyways - it feels much more realistic than XGL/Compiz combo. More future-oriented. It's both eye-candy and can improve a real work - for example easier to look photos. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 1/7/07, Alexey Eremenko
As soon as we have 3D monitors available it may become worthwhile.
Given that we don't have such hardware, how can one call one 2D representation of 3D any more "REAL" than the next?
Good point. Anyways - it feels much more realistic than XGL/Compiz combo. More future-oriented. It's both eye-candy and can improve a real work - for example easier to look photos.
We shouldn't be talking about subjective merits and demerits of lg3d, compiz/beryl, the thing is the technology is out there and hardware that can run it is available, whether anyone likes it or not, they are the technologies of the future. We must do whatever to promote it and get it in the mainstream distros even while they are experimental. Extra rpms on openSUSE build service would be great if anyone from LG3D project is willing to take that task on. Cheers Jigish -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Alexey Eremenko wrote:
As soon as we have 3D monitors available it may become worthwhile.
Given that we don't have such hardware, how can one call one 2D representation of 3D any more "REAL" than the next?
Good point. Are these not really 3D monitors?:
http://www.sharpsystems.com/products/lcd_monitors/15-17_inch/ll-151-3d/ -James W. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 07 January 2007 21:26, James Wright wrote:
Alexey Eremenko wrote:
As soon as we have 3D monitors available it may become worthwhile.
Given that we don't have such hardware, how can one call one 2D representation of 3D any more "REAL" than the next?
Good point.
Are these not really 3D monitors?:
It doesn't produce an image dispersed through space, it's just another variation on schemes that send a different image to each eye.
http://www.sharpsystems.com/products/lcd_monitors/15-17_inch/ll-151-3d/ Does that design not require the viewer's head to be in a very specific location w.r.t. the monitor to achieve the 3D effect? It also effectively halves the spatial resolution of the display, since pixel pairs are used to handle the binocular image generation.
-James W.
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Alexey Eremenko -
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Goksin Akdeniz -
James Wright -
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Mathias Homann -
Randall R Schulz