Prefered SuSE Postfixs mailing lists?
Hi, I am intere4sted in setting up my own Postfix mailserver and would like to lurk in a group to learn and see what is asked. Are there any prefered SuSE-centric mail lists covering Postfix? I see there are a couple on Yahoogroups, none on Googlegroups and so I figured let me ask here. Is there perhaps a postfix-e@suse.com?
Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:
I am intere4sted in setting up my own Postfix mailserver and would like to lurk in a group to learn and see what is asked. Are there any prefered SuSE-centric mail lists covering Postfix?
The general postfix-list isn't very SUSE-centric, and to be honest it doesn't need to be. However it is not very gentle, and assumes a lot of RTFM-time.
I see there are a couple on Yahoogroups, none on Googlegroups and so I figured let me ask here. Is there perhaps a postfix-e@suse.com?
http://www.postfix.org/lists.html /Per Jessen, Zürich
Per Jessen wrote:
Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:
I am intere4sted in setting up my own Postfix mailserver and would like to lurk in a group to learn and see what is asked. Are there any prefered SuSE-centric mail lists covering Postfix?
The general postfix-list isn't very SUSE-centric, and to be honest it doesn't need to be. However it is not very gentle, and assumes a lot of RTFM-time.
I have to agree, the postfix-users mailinglist is mainly for admins using postfix in a commercial environment, which means you are expected to have a decent grip on the basics of Postfix already. If you wish to gain some experience with Postfix on a Suse system, just ask here in this list, there is no more appropriate list for Postfix on Suse. This list has enough members with good working knowledge on Postfix to help you set up Postfix and understand how Postfix works. Sandy -- List replies only please! Please address PMs to: news-reply2 (@) japantest (.) homelinux (.) com
On 4/26/06 4:54 PM, "Sandy Drobic"
Per Jessen wrote:
Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:
I am intere4sted in setting up my own Postfix mailserver and would like to lurk in a group to learn and see what is asked. Are there any prefered SuSE-centric mail lists covering Postfix?
The general postfix-list isn't very SUSE-centric, and to be honest it doesn't need to be. However it is not very gentle, and assumes a lot of RTFM-time.
I have to agree, the postfix-users mailinglist is mainly for admins using postfix in a commercial environment, which means you are expected to have a decent grip on the basics of Postfix already.
If you wish to gain some experience with Postfix on a Suse system, just ask here in this list, there is no more appropriate list for Postfix on Suse. This list has enough members with good working knowledge on Postfix to help you set up Postfix and understand how Postfix works.
Sandy
I am on the postfix mailinglist and I do use it in production. But I will say there are a lot of patient people on the list like myself who like to try and help out new users. I can say if you follow the rules and post your postconf -n listing and some log errors as to what you are troubleshooting 99% of those admins would be willing to help you. I do know that just by trolling the list you can learn a lot. I would also recommend that you pickup the new postfix book by ralf it is very beginner friendly.
Elijah Savage wrote:
On 4/26/06 4:54 PM, "Sandy Drobic"
wrote: Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:
I am intere4sted in setting up my own Postfix mailserver and would like to lurk in a group to learn and see what is asked. Are there any prefered SuSE-centric mail lists covering Postfix? The general postfix-list isn't very SUSE-centric, and to be honest it doesn't need to be. However it is not very gentle, and assumes a lot of RTFM-time. I have to agree, the postfix-users mailinglist is mainly for admins using
Per Jessen wrote: postfix in a commercial environment, which means you are expected to have a decent grip on the basics of Postfix already.
If you wish to gain some experience with Postfix on a Suse system, just ask here in this list, there is no more appropriate list for Postfix on Suse. This list has enough members with good working knowledge on Postfix to help you set up Postfix and understand how Postfix works.
Sandy
I am on the postfix mailinglist and I do use it in production. But I will say there are a lot of patient people on the list like myself who like to try and help out new users. I can say if you follow the rules and post your postconf -n listing and some log errors as to what you are troubleshooting 99% of those admins would be willing to help you. I do know that just by trolling the list you can learn a lot. I would also recommend that you pickup the new postfix book by ralf it is very beginner friendly.
So far probably the best advice yet. (^-^) The fastest way to learn the basics is to have a book explain it to you. Ralf and Patricks "The Book of Postfix" does a very good job at that. Do lurk in the postfix-users mailing list or simply search the web archive of the list to get a feeling what kind of traffic is running in the list and what kind of information is expected from you when you ask for trouble-shooting. Like the suse-linux-e list, it is a high-traffic list most of the time. Ralf and Patrick also set up a mailing list, though I think it is german only. Sandy -- List replies only please! Please address PMs to: news-reply2 (@) japantest (.) homelinux (.) com
On Thursday 27 April 2006 00:22, Elijah Savage wrote:
I do know that just by trolling the list you can learn a lot.
What do you mean with trolling? Just "listening" without "saying" something on the list? Cheers, Leen
Leendert Meyer wrote:
On Thursday 27 April 2006 00:22, Elijah Savage wrote:
I do know that just by trolling the list you can learn a lot.
What do you mean with trolling? Just "listening" without "saying" something on the list?
Probably he meant "lurking", a troll is definitely not silent and tries to be as annoying as possible. (^-^) Sandy -- List replies only please! Please address PMs to: news-reply2 (@) japantest (.) homelinux (.) com
On Thursday 27 April 2006 13:12, Sandy Drobic wrote:
Leendert Meyer wrote:
On Thursday 27 April 2006 00:22, Elijah Savage wrote:
I do know that just by trolling the list you can learn a lot.
What do you mean with trolling? Just "listening" without "saying" something on the list?
Probably he meant "lurking", a troll is definitely not silent and tries to be as annoying as possible. (^-^)
Indeed. ;) I had the same feeling: that he meant quite the opposite. Elijah, did you? :) (I'm just curious.) Cheers, Leen
On 4/27/06 8:42 AM, "Leendert Meyer"
On Thursday 27 April 2006 13:12, Sandy Drobic wrote:
Leendert Meyer wrote:
On Thursday 27 April 2006 00:22, Elijah Savage wrote:
I do know that just by trolling the list you can learn a lot.
What do you mean with trolling? Just "listening" without "saying" something on the list?
Probably he meant "lurking", a troll is definitely not silent and tries to be as annoying as possible. (^-^)
Indeed. ;) I had the same feeling: that he meant quite the opposite. Elijah, did you? :) (I'm just curious.)
Cheers,
Leen
Sorry lurking is exactly what I meant. I have vacation and Florida Marlin fishing on the brain right now LOL :)
On Thu, 2006-04-27 at 11:50 +0200, Leendert Meyer wrote:
On Thursday 27 April 2006 00:22, Elijah Savage wrote:
I do know that just by trolling the list you can learn a lot.
What do you mean with trolling? Just "listening" without "saying" something on the list?
The correct term should have been "lurking on the list" == watching the list without any response. Someone "trolling" on the list is someone looking to find a "fish" to bait and hook into an argument. At least that is how I see it working. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998
Elijah Savage wrote:
I do know that just by trolling the list you can learn a lot.
Now that everyone's explained the difference between trolling and lurking etc., I thought I'd just add that Elijah, giving his current preoccupation with fishing, could have meant to say trawling? And in fact both trollling and trawling on a mailing-list will teach you lots of stuff. Not quite the same stuff, but still lots of it. To postfix in general - I started using postfix perhaps 4-5 years ago, and although it took some studying getting into the concepts and such, it was about a thousand times easier than sendmail. /Per Jessen, Zürich
Per Jessen wrote:
Elijah Savage wrote:
I do know that just by trolling the list you can learn a lot.
Now that everyone's explained the difference between trolling and lurking etc., I thought I'd just add that Elijah, giving his current preoccupation with fishing, could have meant to say trawling? And in fact both trollling and trawling on a mailing-list will teach you lots of stuff. Not quite the same stuff, but still lots of it.
To postfix in general - I started using postfix perhaps 4-5 years ago, and although it took some studying getting into the concepts and such, it was about a thousand times easier than sendmail.
/Per Jessen, Zürich
Has anyone looked up the Polare language which derived this phrase? Trolling, i.e wandering or looking?
participants (7)
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Elijah Savage
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Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC)
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John
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Ken Schneider
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Leendert Meyer
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Per Jessen
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Sandy Drobic