James Knott wrote:

Ever wonder how we'd be pronouncing Linux, if Linux spoke Finnish and not Swedish? ;-)

Linux or Linus? Linus Torvalds IS Finnish, but quite probably also speaks Swedish. /Per Jessen, Zürich

On Tuesday, April 11, 2006 @ 2:29 AM, Dave Cotton wrote:

On Tue, 2006-04-11 at 08:54 +0200, Per Jessen wrote:

...

James Knott wrote:

...

Ever wonder how we'd be pronouncing Linux, if Linux spoke Finnish and not Swedish? ;-)

Linux or Linus? Linus Torvalds IS Finnish, but quite probably also speaks Swedish.

Linus is one of those _native Swedish_ speaking Finns.

Read his book. -- Dave Cotton

From an article I once read in the newspaper, Linus is pronounced Leen-Us.

Greg Wallace

Dave Cotton wrote:

...

Linux or Linus? Linus Torvalds IS Finnish, but quite probably also speaks Swedish.

Linus is one of those _native Swedish_ speaking Finns. Read his book.

Maybe you should read it again. Nationality-wise he IS Finnish - read the other postings. /Per Jessen, Zürich

Dave Cotton wrote:

On Tue, 2006-04-11 at 22:05 +0200, Per Jessen wrote:

...

Dave Cotton wrote:

...

...

Linux or Linus? Linus Torvalds IS Finnish, but quite probably also speaks Swedish.

Linus is one of those _native Swedish_ speaking Finns. Read his book.

Maybe you should read it again. Nationality-wise he IS Finnish -

Exactly what I said he's a Swedish speaking Finn.

Sorry, I misread your posting completely. Note to oneself - stay off email late at night. /Per Jessen, Zürich

On Tuesday 11 April 2006 12:24, James Knott wrote:

Per Jessen wrote:

...

James Knott wrote:

...

Ever wonder how we'd be pronouncing Linux, if Linux spoke Finnish and not Swedish? ;-)

Linux or Linus? Linus Torvalds IS Finnish, but quite probably also speaks Swedish.

As I recall, he lived in a Swedish area of Finland, so by nationality, he's Finnish, but by language he's Swedish, though not quite the same Swedish as in Sweden.

Indeed. Here he is on wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_Torvalds Cheers, Leen

James Knott wrote:

...

Linux or Linus? Linus Torvalds IS Finnish, but quite probably also speaks Swedish.

As I recall, he lived in a Swedish area of Finland, so by nationality, he's Finnish, but by language he's Swedish,

A "Swedish area of Finland"? - that's like calling Hamburg "a German area of Denmark". Or York "an English area of Denmark". Let's not go there :-) According to wikipedia, the omnipotent source of all fact: "Seine Familie gehört zur schwedischsprechenden Minderheit in Finnland. Er besuchte ab 1988 die Universität Helsinki." Whatever languages Linus may or may not speak, he is clearly Finnish, though he belongs to the Swedish-speaking minority. How Linus sees himself is his matter, but for most intents and purposes he is Finnish. Personally, I speak three languages like a native, and another two close enough for only natives to tell otherwise. My nationality is still only Danish. /Per Jessen, Zürich whose command of Finnish is limited to "Yksi, Kaksi, Kippis". Enough for a good night out, I believe. Apologies about the speeling.

On Tuesday 11 April 2006 22:37, Anders Johansson wrote:

first language. Not 'may probably speak Finnish', but first language.

egad. I meant to say Not 'may probably speak Swedish' but....

Per Jessen wrote:

James Knott wrote:

...

...

Linux or Linus? Linus Torvalds IS Finnish, but quite probably also speaks Swedish. As I recall, he lived in a Swedish area of Finland, so by nationality, he's Finnish, but by language he's Swedish,

A "Swedish area of Finland"? - that's like calling Hamburg "a German area of Denmark". Or York "an English area of Denmark". Let's not go there :-)

I was referring to an area of Finland, where there are lots of Swedes. However, I've since read he's from Helsinki, which is a Finnish area of Sweden. ;-) Actually, there are many areas of Europe and elsewhere, where national borders include populations that are from neighbouring contries. IIRC, there's even a piece of Italy on the Swiss side of a border lake. Also, at one time there was some English territory in France, in addition to the channel islands. Even the United States, includes a place called "Texas". ;-)

On Tuesday, April 11, 2006 @ 11:57 PM, kai wrote:

On Tuesday 11 April 2006 04:32 pm, James Knott wrote:

...

Actually, there are many areas of Europe and elsewhere, where national borders include populations that are from neighbouring contries. IIRC, there's even a piece of Italy on the Swiss side of a border lake. Also, at one time there was some English territory in France, in addition to the channel islands. Even the United States, includes a place called "Texas". ;-)

Which is technically pronounced, "te-haas," as it is/was a Mexican state before it became a republic.

I'm not quite sure what language they speak there in "te-hass" as I can't understand them for the life of me.

-- kai - www.perfectreign.com

As a native Texan, I do find that certain provincials have trouble understanding the more pure English dialect spoken in Texas. Those of a more cosmopolitan persuasion have less difficulty. In all seriousness, it harkens back to what part of Europe the original inhabitants came from, etc. As with any spoken dialect, it's a commingling of what the original inhabitants spoke and the influence of those they came in contact with along the way. It's not a pure invention. Personally, having lived in Texas, Louisianna, Nova Scotia, and Alaska, as well as inter-mingling with all of the transplants in each of these places, I have, I have been told by my relatives, developed a "different way of speaking". This is a good example of the influence one's surrounding culture has on one. Greg Wallace

On 12/04/06, James Knott wrote:

kai wrote:

...

On Tuesday 11 April 2006 04:32 pm, James Knott wrote:

...

Actually, there are many areas of Europe and elsewhere, where national borders include populations that are from neighbouring contries. IIRC, there's even a piece of Italy on the Swiss side of a border lake. Also, at one time there was some English territory in France, in addition to the channel islands. Even the United States, includes a place called "Texas". ;-)

Which is technically pronounced, "te-haas," as it is/was a Mexican state before it became a republic.

I'm not quite sure what language they speak there in "te-hass" as I can't understand them for the life of me.

It's almost as bad as Autralian. ;-)

I wonder if anybody else on this list knows about the British 'Black Country' accent? Peter, this does not apply to you :-) I'm not from the Black Country but I live very close to its border. Strangled is not the word ;-) -- ============================================== I am only human, please forgive me if I make a mistake it is not deliberate. ============================================== Xmas may be over but, PLEASE DON'T drink and drive you'll make it to the next one that way. Kevan Farmer Linux user #373362 Cheslyn Hay Staffordshire WS6 7HR

On Thursday 13 April 2006 11:45 am, Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:

kai wrote:

...

On Tuesday 11 April 2006 04:32 pm, James Knott wrote:

...

Actually, there are many areas of Europe and elsewhere, where national borders include populations that are from neighbouring contries. IIRC, there's even a piece of Italy on the Swiss side of a border lake. Also, at one time there was some English territory in France, in addition to the channel islands. Even the United States, includes a place called "Texas". ;-)

Which is technically pronounced, "te-haas," as it is/was a Mexican state before it became a republic.

I'm not quite sure what language they speak there in "te-hass" as I can't understand them for the life of me.

Since it would seem we 'all' do not care about people who are on slower internet lines or pay per MB downloaded, I have to ask, WTF CARES how SuSE is pronounced. Whatever country you are in will understand you. I think this discussion of should go to the OT list as it has nothing technical to do with Soooozie, SuuZ, Soooz, Soze etc and the product we all use.

It's "Szewszuh" Paying per MB and you're on a list with more than 300 mails a day????

Lets move it on chaps/gals/whatsits/etc's

On Tuesday 11 April 2006 01:02 pm, Per Jessen wrote:

James Knott wrote:

...

...

Linux or Linus? Linus Torvalds IS Finnish, but quite probably also speaks Swedish.

As I recall, he lived in a Swedish area of Finland, so by nationality, he's Finnish, but by language he's Swedish,

A "Swedish area of Finland"? - that's like calling Hamburg "a German area of Denmark". Or York "an English area of Denmark". Let's not go there :-)

According to wikipedia, the omnipotent source of all fact:

"Seine Familie gehört zur schwedischsprechenden Minderheit in Finnland. Er besuchte ab 1988 die Universität Helsinki."

Whatever languages Linus may or may not speak, he is clearly Finnish, though he belongs to the Swedish-speaking minority. How Linus sees himself is his matter, but for most intents and purposes he is Finnish.

Personally, I speak three languages like a native, and another two close enough for only natives to tell otherwise. My nationality is still only Danish.

Of course, this written by a guy living in a country with four official languages among a population less than that of my county - Los Angeles. :) (In all honesty, I loved the summer in '91 where I worked at Migros as a student intern.) -- kai - www.perfectreign.com Wo ist der Ort für den ehrlichsten Kuss Ich weiss, dass ich ihn für uns finden muss Auf 'ner Strasse im Regen, auf 'nem Berg nah beim Mond Oder kann man ihn nur vom Totenbett holen

On Monday 10 April 2006 7:09 pm, James Knott wrote:

Digvijoy Chatterjee wrote:

...

Hi, Most of us here pronounce SUSE it as "susie" ,as in MJs blood on dance floor hit "susie got your number". I have heard some people use "Soose" sounding like "Choose" , and some other people say "Soosay" , or "Soozey" what is the german pronouncaition of "SUSE" ,and does the word have some origin etc... would be really interesting to know

I asked a German friend about it, and she says it's pronounced something like zuzah.

That's what I said in my first post and I even explained why.

Ever wonder how we'd be pronouncing Linux, if Linux spoke Finnish and not Swedish? ;-)

He speaks 3 languages I know of. Watch the movie Revolution OS, he talks about his name and how to pronounce it, and how to pronounce Linux, and he pronounces SUSE.

On Wednesday 12 April 2006 5:53 pm, Kevanf1 wrote:

On 12/04/06, Allen wrote:

...

He speaks 3 languages I know of. Watch the movie Revolution OS, he talks about his name and how to pronounce it, and how to pronounce Linux, and he pronounces SUSE.

What is that released on, Allen? I'd like to watch it but is it available here in the UK? That's off the top of my head, I haven't yet tried a Google (or other) search for it so apologies for that. Any hints will help in my searching ;-)

Stick to Google, the web site for it is the movie name but I can't remember if it was .net or .com or what, so just try that you'll find it. By the way, it's not encrypted either, so it does play in Linux without drivers that may be illegal. AND, it has Easter Eggs if you can find them ;)

-- ============================================== I am only human, please forgive me if I make a mistake it is not deliberate. ============================================== Xmas may be over but, PLEASE DON'T drink and drive you'll make it to the next one that way.

Kevan Farmer

Linux user #373362

Cheslyn Hay Staffordshire WS6 7HR