[opensuse] How can I change the date/time format thunderbird uses?
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, My thunderbird (3) is using this format, for examples in replies: ] On 12/17/2009 09:24 PM, I wrote: I would like to use year-month-day for the date and 24:00 for the hour. I haven't seen a configuration for this. Is it possible? And I don't want to change the language of the locale for this. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 "Emerald" GM (bombadillo)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAksqnHEACgkQU92UU+smfQUBkwCfXNdBqqHg/b58CUUic8iprvEB 0WsAnAm1T/4FxFH7WB0TIcAG2gGUTLUn =aS/O -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 18/12/09 08:02, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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Hi,
My thunderbird (3) is using this format, for examples in replies:
] On 12/17/2009 09:24 PM, I wrote:
I would like to use year-month-day for the date and 24:00 for the hour. I haven't seen a configuration for this. Is it possible?
And I don't want to change the language of the locale for this.
I am pretty sure that TB uses the date/time format defined in your (openSUSE) Personal System Settings. Alter this and you will get the date/time format you want. BC -- If you don't succeed you run the risk of failure. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, 2009-12-18 at 12:47 +1100, Basil Chupin wrote:
I would like to use year-month-day for the date and 24:00 for the hour. I haven't seen a configuration for this. Is it possible?
And I don't want to change the language of the locale for this.
I am pretty sure that TB uses the date/time format defined in your (openSUSE) Personal System Settings. Alter this and you will get the date/time format you want.
And where would that be? Gnome shows the time in a different format, in the clock panel, and it is not the one Th. uses. There are no settings in the control center for date or clock. And the command "date" has another format. Or do you mean in "LC_TIME"? Changing that does change the time format in Th... but it is not configurable, I have to choose a country instead. Ugh :-( - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAksrAlkACgkQtTMYHG2NR9W1mACfUh4w+0h84jGuLTknIKmQKrqt U5EAoIDquI0vUtTZ83dO50jHdJ0G7TMM =08iT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 18/12/09 15:17, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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On Friday, 2009-12-18 at 12:47 +1100, Basil Chupin wrote:
I would like to use year-month-day for the date and 24:00 for the hour. I haven't seen a configuration for this. Is it possible?
And I don't want to change the language of the locale for this.
I am pretty sure that TB uses the date/time format defined in your (openSUSE) Personal System Settings. Alter this and you will get the date/time format you want.
And where would that be?
Gnome shows the time in a different format, in the clock panel, and it is not the one Th. uses. There are no settings in the control center for date or clock. And the command "date" has another format.
Or do you mean in "LC_TIME"?
Changing that does change the time format in Th... but it is not configurable, I have to choose a country instead. Ugh :-( Oh, I don't use Gnome (never have, except for about 10 minutes some 10 years ago or so :-) ).
However, I am surprised that Gnome doesn't have a readily configurable date format for use in your system. In Windows it is part of the Regional Settings where you select country, the time format, the date format (dd-mm-yy, mm-dd-yy, yyyy-mm-dd), and the money format. In oS (11.x) - using KDE - it is in Kickoff/System Settings/Regional & Language. *Surely* Gnome must have something similar? BC -- If you don't succeed you run the risk of failure. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, 2009-12-18 at 16:39 +1100, Basil Chupin wrote: ...
Oh, I don't use Gnome (never have, except for about 10 minutes some 10 years ago or so :-) ).
However, I am surprised that Gnome doesn't have a readily configurable date format for use in your system. In Windows it is part of the Regional Settings where you select country, the time format, the date format (dd-mm-yy, mm-dd-yy, yyyy-mm-dd), and the money format.
In oS (11.x) - using KDE - it is in Kickoff/System Settings/Regional & Language.
*Surely* Gnome must have something similar?
Not that I know. It simply uses the environment defined for the shell; ie, the "locale". Just type "locale" in a terminal. But yes, it s weird that there is no graphical tool to set that up (by the user). But I hoped that thunderbird had something of their own, many programs that complex do. Mmm... Felix link is interesting. I don't have those variables, though. And anyway, it is taking the string from the system date format (locale). - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAksrf88ACgkQtTMYHG2NR9XRWQCeLBL2C3GrBNLllG8wY1iCg+Vd T9wAnRNC3pBeG5SANHXNCm84Pd6Jv71N =3g0x -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2009/12/17 22:02 (GMT+0100) Carlos E. R. composed:
My thunderbird (3) is using this format, for examples in replies:
] On 12/17/2009 09:24 PM, I wrote:
I would like to use year-month-day for the date and 24:00 for the hour. I haven't seen a configuration for this. Is it possible?
And I don't want to change the language of the locale for this.
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Date_display_format -- " We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion." John Adams, 2nd US President Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 18/12/09 15:35, Felix Miata wrote:
On 2009/12/17 22:02 (GMT+0100) Carlos E. R. composed:
My thunderbird (3) is using this format, for examples in replies:
] On 12/17/2009 09:24 PM, I wrote:
I would like to use year-month-day for the date and 24:00 for the hour. I haven't seen a configuration for this. Is it possible?
And I don't want to change the language of the locale for this.
Most interesting. Saved for future reference. Many Thanks for this information. BC -- If you don't succeed you run the risk of failure. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2009-12-18 05:35, Felix Miata wrote:
On 2009/12/17 22:02 (GMT+0100) Carlos E. R. composed:
A very interesting link! It turns out that I do have to set up LC_TIME, because those setting give me the choice of short or long format, little else. There is another link in that page: http://myy.helia.fi/~karte/international_iso-8601_date_on_thunderbird.html The setting for getting iso format date/time, is en_DK! (English in Denmark) If I start Th. like this: cer@bombadillo:~> LC_TIME="en_DK" LC_DATE="en_DK" thunderbird & I get the format I want. Almost. How do you get the "(GMT+0100)" in your's? I see you use mozilla. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 "Emerald" GM (bombadillo)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAksrhCIACgkQU92UU+smfQX2EACfauLG9yPwAgvrl1/Vci1eHKCc 6LgAn1p32e0U7CBnninUZivdhrStaMgK =KYf1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2009/12/18 14:31 (GMT+0100) Carlos E. R. composed:
On 2009-12-18 05:35, Felix Miata wrote:
On 2009/12/17 22:02 (GMT+0100) Carlos E. R. composed:
A very interesting link!
It turns out that I do have to set up LC_TIME, because those setting give me the choice of short or long format, little else.
There is another link in that page:
http://myy.helia.fi/~karte/international_iso-8601_date_on_thunderbird.html
The setting for getting iso format date/time, is en_DK! (English in Denmark)
If I start Th. like this:
cer@bombadillo:~> LC_TIME="en_DK" LC_DATE="en_DK" thunderbird &
I get the format I want. Almost. How do you get the "(GMT+0100)" in your's? I see you use mozilla.
Semi-automatically: 1-I use SeaMonkey 1.1.18 2-I use OS/2 for all regular email 3-I use oS 11.0 for reading & writing to newsgroups. If I try that on OS/2 I run out of available shared RAM 1/3 faster, and so have to restart every 4 days instead of every 6 days. 4-On both SeaMonkeys I have set: a-mailnews.reply_header_locale en-DK b-mailnews.reply_header_ondate On 20%s (GMT-0500) 5-when I don't forget, I first fix the TO and/or CC as necessitated by the stupid list policy, and then correct the date/time/correction on the first compose line to match that of the sender I find it hard to believe that after so many years of Mozilla development that this is not available automatically. Maybe it is in newer versions, but I only use SM2 for Navigator and Chatzilla, and want mailnews on a separate desktop, which the Mozilla suites don't permit AFAIK. BTW, though I'm in USA, on Linux I have had 'export LC_TIME=en_DK' in .bashrc many many years. Looks like maybe I need to add 'export LC_DATE=en_DK' as well to fix the Linux version, which gets the header pane format right, but not the compose attribution line. Dunno when I can try that, because that machine's RAM just went bad and I'm trying to process RMA to Crucial before the mail comes, killing some time waiting on memtest by doing email. -- " We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion." John Adams, 2nd US President Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, 2009-12-18 at 10:01 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
cer@bombadillo:~> LC_TIME="en_DK" LC_DATE="en_DK" thunderbird &
I get the format I want. Almost. How do you get the "(GMT+0100)" in your's? I see you use mozilla.
Semi-automatically: 1-I use SeaMonkey 1.1.18 2-I use OS/2 for all regular email 3-I use oS 11.0 for reading & writing to newsgroups. If I try that on OS/2 I run out of available shared RAM 1/3 faster, and so have to restart every 4 days instead of every 6 days. 4-On both SeaMonkeys I have set: a-mailnews.reply_header_locale en-DK b-mailnews.reply_header_ondate On 20%s (GMT-0500) 5-when I don't forget, I first fix the TO and/or CC as necessitated by the stupid list policy, and then correct the date/time/correction on the first compose line to match that of the sender
X'-)
BTW, though I'm in USA, on Linux I have had 'export LC_TIME=en_DK' in .bashrc many many years. Looks like maybe I need to add 'export LC_DATE=en_DK' as well to fix the Linux version, which gets the header pane format right, but not the compose attribution line. Dunno when I can try that, because that machine's RAM just went bad and I'm trying to process RMA to Crucial before the mail comes, killing some time waiting on memtest by doing email.
Yes, I think I will add that to my personal profile. I really only want the language to be English, I could set the rest to Spanish, and date/time to Danish. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAksrtGkACgkQtTMYHG2NR9VZJwCeLMXNPr+CMfHPPzzXKHdKux4u WKkAoJLxmoPKTgvQxCFvtiEJDAtSJWze =KeQD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, 18 Dec 2009, 16:01:40 +0100, Felix Miata wrote:
[...] BTW, though I'm in USA, on Linux I have had 'export LC_TIME=en_DK' in .bashrc many many years. Looks like maybe I need to add 'export LC_DATE=en_DK' as well to fix the Linux version, which gets the header pane format right, but not the compose attribution line. Dunno when I can try that, because that machine's RAM just went bad and I'm trying to process RMA to Crucial before the mail comes, killing some time waiting on memtest by doing email.
AFAIK, there is no such thing as LC_DATE; running locale only shows the following entries: LANG LC_ADDRESS LC_ALL LC_COLLATE LC_CTYPE LC_IDENTIFICATION LC_MEASUREMENT LC_MESSAGES LC_MONETARY LC_NAME LC_NUMERIC LC_PAPER LC_TELEPHONE LC_TIME Cheers. l8er manfred -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, 2009-12-18 at 18:46 +0100, Manfred Hollstein wrote:
On Fri, 18 Dec 2009, 16:01:40 +0100, Felix Miata wrote:
[...] BTW, though I'm in USA, on Linux I have had 'export LC_TIME=en_DK' in .bashrc many many years. Looks like maybe I need to add 'export LC_DATE=en_DK' as well to fix the Linux version, which gets the header pane format right, but not the compose attribution line. Dunno when I can try that, because that machine's RAM just went bad and I'm trying to process RMA to Crucial before the mail comes, killing some time waiting on memtest by doing email.
AFAIK, there is no such thing as LC_DATE; running locale only shows the following entries:
LANG LC_ADDRESS LC_ALL LC_COLLATE LC_CTYPE LC_IDENTIFICATION LC_MEASUREMENT LC_MESSAGES LC_MONETARY LC_NAME LC_NUMERIC LC_PAPER LC_TELEPHONE LC_TIME
You are right. Funny O:-) - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAksr3R4ACgkQtTMYHG2NR9UH8wCfYvIKnnWaEMpAmVXFb+J6QzgU bb0AniGRL0k8MRvRhtltuwUL5iFJeDDB =TD22 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thu 17 Dec 2009 at 19:02:41 (-0300 UTC), Carlos E. R. wrote:
Hi,
My thunderbird (3) is using this format, for examples in replies:
] On 12/17/2009 09:24 PM, I wrote:
I would like to use year-month-day for the date and 24:00 for the hour. I haven't seen a configuration for this. Is it possible?
And I don't want to change the language of the locale for this.
Hello, I think you could find useful this Thunderbird extension: http://www.extenzilla.org/scheda_estensione.php?id=50 GL, -- Marco Calistri <amdturion> "MacDonald has the gift of compressing the largest amount of words into the smallest amount of thoughts." -- Winston Churchill -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Am 18.12.2009 15:23, schrieb Marco Calistri:
Hello, I think you could find useful this Thunderbird extension:
Careful, that extension just broke my profile. I was unable to answer messages and prior to that it actually broke what it was supposed to fix - there was no date anymore. Just had to restore my profile from last night's backup because even uninstalling the addon didn't solve the problem. Martin -- Rieke Computersysteme GmbH Hellerholz 5 D-82061 Neuried Telefon: +49 (0) 89/755099-41 Telefax: +49 (0) 89/45237-399 Mobil: +49 (0) 172/2102355 Email: martin@rhm.de HRB Muenchen 73617 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri 18 Dec 2009 at 12:59:19 (-0300 UTC), Martin Jungowski wrote:
Am 18.12.2009 15:23, schrieb Marco Calistri:
Hello, I think you could find useful this Thunderbird extension:
Careful, that extension just broke my profile. I was unable to answer messages and prior to that it actually broke what it was supposed to fix - there was no date anymore. Just had to restore my profile from last night's backup because even uninstalling the addon didn't solve the problem.
Martin
Interesting to know it; I am using this extension on my work XP SP3 laptop and it is very stable. Strange that Linux version be broken. -- Marco Calistri <amdturion> An inconvenience is only an adventure wrongly considered; an adventure is an inconvenience rightly considered. -- Gilbert Keith Chesterson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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