Where is it?!! 'NOT on the CDs! Fred -- "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin 1759
Anders Johansson wrote:
On Monday 15 November 2004 00:18, Fred A. Miller wrote:
Where is it?!! 'NOT on the CDs!
NO it ISN'T. It IS on THE dvd
Well swell it is on the DVD. Grand! unless you do not own a DVD device. SuSE should have supplied all of the software on CDs (about 2-3 more) to have covered all of the software on the DVDs. -- 73 de Donn Washburn __" http://www.hal-pc.org/~n5xwb " Ham Callsign N5XWB / / __ __ __ __ __ __ __ 307 Savoy St. / /__ / / / \/ / / /_/ / \ \/ / Sugar Land, TX 77478 /_____/ /_/ /_/\__/ /_____/ /_/\_\ LL# 1.281.242.3256 Dump Microsoft Software - Stop virus email Email: n5xwb@hal-pc.org " http://counter.li.org " #279316
On Sunday November 14 2004 7:22 pm, Donn Washburn wrote:
Anders Johansson wrote:
On Monday 15 November 2004 00:18, Fred A. Miller wrote:
Where is it?!! 'NOT on the CDs!
NO it ISN'T. It IS on THE dvd
Well swell it is on the DVD. Grand! unless you do not own a DVD device. SuSE should have supplied all of the software on CDs (about 2-3 more) to have covered all of the software on the DVDs.
It certain would have been nice!! I had a client order 9.2. The box is a less than 1 yr. old Dell with DVD. It CAN'T boot the DVD......so even as new as that box is, it can't boot that "odd ball" disc. Yes......"odd ball" as there are a lot of newer drives in existing boxen that can't boot it. Fred -- "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin 1759
On Monday 15 November 2004 21:06, Fred A. Miller wrote:
I had a client order 9.2. The box is a less than 1 yr. old Dell with DVD. It CAN'T boot the DVD......so even as new as that box is, it can't boot that "odd ball" disc. Yes......"odd ball" as there are a lot of newer drives in existing boxen that can't boot it.
That sounds very odd. Care to elaborate?
On Monday November 15 2004 4:41 pm, Jake wrote:
On Monday 15 November 2004 21:06, Fred A. Miller wrote:
I had a client order 9.2. The box is a less than 1 yr. old Dell with DVD. It CAN'T boot the DVD......so even as new as that box is, it can't boot that "odd ball" disc. Yes......"odd ball" as there are a lot of newer drives in existing boxen that can't boot it.
That sounds very odd. Care to elaborate?
There isn't anything "odd" about it at all. There's a LOT of DVD drives less than a yr. old IN new boxes that won't read the double density discs. Fred -- "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin 1759
On Monday 15 November 2004 23:51, Fred A. Miller wrote:
There isn't anything "odd" about it at all. There's a LOT of DVD drives less than a yr. old IN new boxes that won't read the double density discs.
Aren't most movies double layered? Are you saying they're selling players that can't play movies? Seems like a very risky business plan to me, that is after all the main reason most people buy a DVD player
On Monday 15 November 2004 5:06 pm, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Monday 15 November 2004 23:51, Fred A. Miller wrote:
There isn't anything "odd" about it at all. There's a LOT of DVD drives less than a yr. old IN new boxes that won't read the double density discs.
Aren't most movies double layered? Are you saying they're selling players that can't play movies? Seems like a very risky business plan to me, that is after all the main reason most people buy a DVD player
Hi, Anders is right. The manfact. must design and build the device that meets the DVD specs set by the DVD consortium. It is the same for CD drives. Phillips and Sony, holders of the CD specs carefully guard the "Brand". That is why they threatened to withdraw the permission to call a product a CD or Compact Disc from those who wanted to break the standard for 'copy protection' reasons. If you run into a DVD drive that won't read a dual layer DVD, you have a broken drive! PeterB
On Monday November 15 2004 6:06 pm, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Monday 15 November 2004 23:51, Fred A. Miller wrote:
There isn't anything "odd" about it at all. There's a LOT of DVD drives less than a yr. old IN new boxes that won't read the double density discs.
Aren't most movies double layered? Are you saying they're selling players that can't play movies? Seems like a very risky business plan to me, that is after all the main reason most people buy a DVD player
I don't know that all can read double layer, but what I DO know, is that a LOT of DVD drives CAN'T boot double layer discs, as evidenced by the complaints here and now 2 different model Dells that I've tried. Fred -- "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin 1759
On Mon, 2004-11-15 at 15:06, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Monday 15 November 2004 23:51, Fred A. Miller wrote:
There isn't anything "odd" about it at all. There's a LOT of DVD drives less than a yr. old IN new boxes that won't read the double density discs.
Aren't most movies double layered? Are you saying they're selling players that can't play movies? Seems like a very risky business plan to me, that is after all the main reason most people buy a DVD player
Sounds like compliance with the DMCA to prevent computers from reading and *gasp* reproducing movies. -- ----------=====<<<<<CWSIV>>>>>=====---------- | \ /|\ || |\ / |~~\ /~~\ /~~| //~~\ | \ / | \ || | X |__/| || |( `--. |__ | | \| \_/ / \ | \ \__/ \__| \\__/ ----------===<<<CWSIV@JUNO.COM>>>===----------
On Wednesday 17 November 2004 5:51 pm, cwsiv wrote:
Sounds like compliance with the DMCA to prevent computers from reading and *gasp* reproducing movies.
Hi Carl, Put the tinfoil hat back on Carl. If a drive is trade marked "DVD" then it has to read double layered media. It a particular drive is not reading them, then it is broken. Replace it or get it repaired. The DVD movie industry makes a lot of money from PC viewers and Licensed movie software. The whole DCSS fiasco resulted from the fact that no-one in the FOSS community could figure out how to negotiate a lic. to play movies in any Linux distro. PeterB
On Monday 15 November 2004 4:51 pm, Fred A. Miller wrote:
On Monday November 15 2004 4:41 pm, Jake wrote:
On Monday 15 November 2004 21:06, Fred A. Miller wrote:
I had a client order 9.2. The box is a less than 1 yr. old Dell with DVD. It CAN'T boot the DVD......so even as new as that box is, it can't boot that "odd ball" disc. Yes......"odd ball" as there are a lot of newer drives in existing boxen that can't boot it.
That sounds very odd. Care to elaborate?
There isn't anything "odd" about it at all. There's a LOT of DVD drives less than a yr. old IN new boxes that won't read the double density discs.
Fred
Will that DVD drive play dual-layer DVD movies? If it does than I wonder why it can't handle the SUSE 9.2 dual-layer DVD. Is it the data format versus the movie format that screws it up? I thought all computer DVD readers could handle dual-layer especially for movies... Curious, Stan
On Monday 15 November 2004 2:51 pm, Fred A. Miller wrote:
There isn't anything "odd" about it at all. There's a LOT of DVD drives less than a yr. old IN new boxes that won't read the double density discs.
I have a new HP Pavilion ze4600 that I couldn't use the SuSE dvd with. The dvd worked fine with my desktop. Rich -- Rich Matson Reno, Nv. USA
On Monday 15 November 2004 8:33 pm, C. Richard Matson wrote:
I have a new HP Pavilion ze4600 that I couldn't use the SuSE dvd with. The dvd worked fine with my desktop. Rich
I forgot to add the 9.1 dvd works fine with the player. The 9.2 didn't. Rich -- Rich Matson Reno, Nv. USA
*** Reply to message from "Fred A. Miller" <fmiller@lightlink.com> on Mon, 15 Nov 2004 17:51:59 -0500 One more candle and a trip around the Sun***
I had a client order 9.2. The box is a less than 1 yr. old Dell with DVD.
It CAN'T boot the DVD......so even as new as that box is, it can't boot that "odd ball" disc. Yes......"odd ball" as there are a lot of newer drives in existing boxen that can't boot it.
Fred, this is very odd. Sound like they are not using a NEW dvd drive, but instead are including old inventory as free upgrades or whatever. I've got a Sony RW +/- drive that does just fine, Gil has a newer ( and cheaper) drive that is basically a "no name" copy of mine, tho his burns a tad faster... Anyway, his dvd drive also sees it w/ no problem ( I just checked again to be sure, and up pops the Suse install screen bright as a new penny. ) So I think, as Anders said, try a movie Dvd , if that is read, there is something weirder happening and it might be time to call on the install support. After all if it can't read the dvd you don't get an install , at all. <G> -- j -- nemo me impune lacessit 'Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? '
On Sunday November 14 2004 6:42 pm, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Monday 15 November 2004 00:18, Fred A. Miller wrote:
Where is it?!! 'NOT on the CDs!
NO it ISN'T. It IS on THE dvd
Figures......have no DVD and won't be adding to this old box. Fred -- "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin 1759
Fred A. Miller wrote:
On Sunday November 14 2004 6:42 pm, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Monday 15 November 2004 00:18, Fred A. Miller wrote:
Where is it?!! 'NOT on the CDs!
NO it ISN'T. It IS on THE dvd
Figures......have no DVD and won't be adding to this old box.
Well, as long as you have a DVD somewhere on your network, you can still use the DVD.
On Tuesday November 16 2004 9:53 am, James Knott wrote:
Fred A. Miller wrote:
On Sunday November 14 2004 6:42 pm, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Monday 15 November 2004 00:18, Fred A. Miller wrote:
Where is it?!! 'NOT on the CDs!
NO it ISN'T. It IS on THE dvd
Figures......have no DVD and won't be adding to this old box.
Well, as long as you have a DVD somewhere on your network, you can still use the DVD.
I don't. Fred -- "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin 1759
participants (10)
-
Anders Johansson -
C. Richard Matson -
cwsiv -
Donn Washburn -
Fred A. Miller -
Jake -
James Knott -
jfweber＠bellsouth.net -
Peter B Van Campen -
Stan Glasoe