I am looking for a "language" (I assume a gui paint it yourself instead of procedural code) to create database related programs for linux under suse/kde. Oh, and I have a life, I do not want to learn C/C++. I have been using FoxPro/DOS for the last 10ish years, and I am looking for something as easy to learn. It seems that Visual Foxpro/Wine/Linux or Visual Basic/Wine/Linux ar the answer. Visual basic is very well documented in the book marketplace. My Q: other than "I want a non-Microsoft computer", why are we not using something like VB/Wine/Linux? This may all be moot, as OpenOffice has come out with a set of Objects/Glue in v2.0 for databases. If there are Linux alternatives without a steep learning curve, are there source code examples for a generic database from which to build (create/data entry/edit/search/report/maintain)? -- John Sowden American Sentry Systems. Inc. 1221 Andersen Drive San Rafael, CA 94901 U.L. Listed Central Station Alarm Service Serving the San Francisco Bay Area Since 1967 mail@americansentry.net http://www.americansentry.net
* John Sowden <jsowden@americansentry.net> [03-06-05 21:13]:
I am looking for a "language" (I assume a gui paint it yourself instead of procedural code) to create database related programs for linux under suse/kde. Oh, and I have a life, I do not want to learn C/C++. I have been using FoxPro/DOS for the last 10ish years, and I am looking for something as easy to learn.
rekall phpMyAdmin knoda -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery
* Patrick Shanahan <ptilopteri@gmail.com> [03-06-05 21:26]:
* John Sowden <jsowden@americansentry.net> [03-06-05 21:13]:
I am looking for a "language" (I assume a gui paint it yourself instead of procedural code) to create database related programs for linux under suse/kde. Oh, and I have a life, I do not want to learn C/C++. I have been using FoxPro/DOS for the last 10ish years, and I am looking for something as easy to learn.
rekall phpMyAdmin knoda
also: MySqlCC -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery
The Sunday 2005-03-06 at 21:24 -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
knoda
The version in suse 9.1 (0.6.2.a) crashes as soon as I try to open a database that works with rekall: cer@nimrodel:~> knoda & [1] 11231 cer@nimrodel:~> kbuildsycoca running... knodamainwindowbase::start_clicked(): Not implemented yet! KCrash: Application 'knoda' crashing... cer@nimrodel:~> Is it any better in SuSE 9.2? -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
John Sowden wrote:
I am looking for a "language" (I assume a gui paint it yourself instead of procedural code) to create database related programs for linux under suse/kde. Oh, and I have a life, I do not want to learn C/C++. I have been using FoxPro/DOS for the last 10ish years, and I am looking for something as easy to learn.
It seems that Visual Foxpro/Wine/Linux or Visual Basic/Wine/Linux ar the answer. Visual basic is very well documented in the book marketplace. My Q: other than "I want a non-Microsoft computer", why are we not using something like VB/Wine/Linux?
This may all be moot, as OpenOffice has come out with a set of Objects/Glue in v2.0 for databases.
If there are Linux alternatives without a steep learning curve, are there source code examples for a generic database from which to build (create/data entry/edit/search/report/maintain)?
One of the main jumps for DOS/Windows folks is to move away from the idea of an integrated database front end/back end. Most DOS databases, such as Foxpro, DBase and MSAccess are a combination of database engine and front end screens. Linux handles it differently, in part because it is a multi-user system. There are a variety of backend engines ('MySQL' being a very common and popular one, 'Postgres' another) and a selection of front ends (such as 'rekall', 'knoda' or 'phpmyadmin') in a variety of languages. If you are a VB programmer, then you may want to look around for some kind of Python library to write your front ends in, but I don't have a specific suggestion. The OpenOffice.org database objects look interesting, but I haven't tried them, and they may not be mature enough for production grade work, at least not yet. HTH jalal -- GPG fingerprint = 3D45 5509 D380 26A4 523E A9D8 A66A 5F38 CA43 BB0E
Quoting jalal <the_jalal@fastmail.fm>:
John Sowden wrote:
I am looking for a "language" (I assume a gui paint it yourself instead of procedural code) to create database related programs for linux under suse/kde. Oh, and I have a life, I do not want to learn C/C++. I have been using FoxPro/DOS for the last 10ish years, and I am looking for something as easy to learn.
Look at RealBasic, http://www.realsoftware.com/realbasic/ Know nothing about it, just recall seeing a press release. Linux Google gives 3410 hits, you may be able to find some user comments or reviews in all that. HTH, Jeffrey
On 06.03.05,18:10, John Sowden wrote:
I am looking for a "language" (I assume a gui paint it yourself instead of procedural code) to create database related programs for linux under suse/kde. Oh, and I have a life, I do not want to learn C/C++. I have been using FoxPro/DOS for the last 10ish years, and I am looking for something as easy to learn.
It seems that Visual Foxpro/Wine/Linux or Visual Basic/Wine/Linux ar the answer. Visual basic is very well documented in the book marketplace. My Q: other than "I want a non-Microsoft computer", why are we not using something like VB/Wine/Linux?
This may all be moot, as OpenOffice has come out with a set of Objects/Glue in v2.0 for databases.
If there are Linux alternatives without a steep learning curve, are there source code examples for a generic database from which to build (create/data entry/edit/search/report/maintain)?
-- John Sowden American Sentry Systems. Inc.
some suggestions: http://www.realsoftware.com/ http://gambas.sourceforge.net/ http://boa-constructor.sourceforge.net/ Python and Ruby are very fine languages that are easy to learn. - Jostein -- Jostein Berntsen <jbernts@broadpark.no>
On Monday 07 March 2005 05:00, Jostein Berntsen wrote:
some suggestions:
http://www.realsoftware.com/ http://gambas.sourceforge.net/ http://boa-constructor.sourceforge.net/
Python and Ruby are very fine languages that are easy to learn.
And for Ruby, I looked at briefly an IDE at: http://www.widestudio.org/EE/ It seems primarily for app development where the DBMS already exists. The documentation was a little sparse when I looked but a new release supposedly improves that. jcp
At 01:10 PM 7/03/2005, John Sowden wrote:
I am looking for a "language" (I assume a gui paint it yourself instead of procedural code) to create database related programs for linux under suse/kde. Oh, and I have a life, I do not want to learn C/C++. I have been using FoxPro/DOS for the last 10ish years, and I am looking for something as easy to learn.
It seems that Visual Foxpro/Wine/Linux or Visual Basic/Wine/Linux ar the answer. Visual basic is very well documented in the book marketplace. My Q: other than "I want a non-Microsoft computer", why are we not using something like VB/Wine/Linux?
This may all be moot, as OpenOffice has come out with a set of Objects/Glue in v2.0 for databases.
If there are Linux alternatives without a steep learning curve, are there source code examples for a generic database from which to build (create/data entry/edit/search/report/maintain)?
have a look at revolution, now it's up to 2.5 it's not too bad www.runrev.com scsijon
On Monday 07 March 2005 03:10, John Sowden wrote:
This may all be moot, as OpenOffice has come out with a set of Objects/Glue in v2.0 for databases.
You mention it yourself, so this comment may be redundant, but I just had a look at it in the 2.0 beta, and it looks good. Point and click interface not dissimilar to MS Access, with the OO programming language/bindings underneath if you want to customise it. If you havent already, have a look at it
Quoting John Sowden <jsowden@americansentry.net>:
I am looking for a "language" (I assume a gui paint it yourself instead of procedural code) to create database related programs for linux under suse/kde. Oh, and I have a life, I do not want to learn C/C++. I have been using FoxPro/DOS for the last 10ish years, and I am looking for something as easy to learn.
It seems that Visual Foxpro/Wine/Linux or Visual Basic/Wine/Linux ar the answer. Visual basic is very well documented in the book marketplace. My Q: other than "I want a non-Microsoft computer", why are we not using something like VB/Wine/Linux?
This may all be moot, as OpenOffice has come out with a set of Objects/Glue in v2.0 for databases.
If there are Linux alternatives without a steep learning curve, are there source code examples for a generic database from which to build (create/data entry/edit/search/report/maintain)?
Also take a look at Omnis if you don't mind commercial. http://www.omnis.net. It is truly cross platform (Windows, OSX, OS9, Linux, Sun) and cross database. You can construct applications in such a way that you can connect to just about any database without modification (keeping your SQL very simple) while using driver exceptions for enhancing performance for databases you care about. It's pretty robust at 20 years of age, although I've never deployed a Linux solution on it. My customers are still pretty much Win/Mac. Rob
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