[SuSE Linux] Busy modem
I hope this isn't a repeat message. I mistakenly sent to this list from the wrong account earlier. I apologize if you've already seen this. I have just installed 5.3 and just can't get connected to the web. I installed PPP and SLIP support in the kernel, compiled it correctly and set it in place. It boots nominally showing successful implementation of both SLIP and PPP. I used YaST to set up the PPP operation, putting in all the details about my ISP as best I know how. What happens when I try to use Kppp to check my modem is a message that it is busy. If I try to use the generic email client on the taskbar, it locks up and I have to restart the KDE session. The manual is really very good about PPP setup and I have followed it as closely as I can. Can anyone suggest an error I may have committed? Thanks. Steve Mills <A HREF="http://www.millsphoto.com"><A HREF="http://www.millsphoto.com</A">http://www.millsphoto.com - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
Steve Mills wrote:
I hope this isn't a repeat message. I mistakenly sent to this list from the wrong account earlier. I apologize if you've already seen this.
I have just installed 5.3 and just can't get connected to the web. I installed PPP and SLIP support in the kernel, compiled it correctly and set it in place. It boots nominally showing successful implementation of both SLIP and PPP.
I used YaST to set up the PPP operation, putting in all the details about my ISP as best I know how.
What happens when I try to use Kppp to check my modem is a message that it is busy. If I try to use the generic email client on the taskbar, it locks up and I have to restart the KDE session.
The manual is really very good about PPP setup and I have followed it as closely as I can.
Can anyone suggest an error I may have committed?
Thanks.
Steve Mills
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For what ever reason (its beyond me) SuSePPP (setup) does not work for me. IT also screwed all my config files and Kppp would_look_like it was working but had same symptons you had. Suspect you activated diald in the script too.Right? well if you did the solution for me was one of two ways. Both seemed to work equally well. I just re-edited the config files by hand and re-set all the default values. Kpp worked just fine. Second method was simply to reinstall and all worked well also. Your milage may very. regards ch - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
Has suseppp worked for anyone? It didn't work for me. I tried it when I first installed 5.2 back in May, but I never got any scripts, so I took a shot at reading the (gasp) howtos relevent to the subject. I must be one of the lucky people who managed to get my dialup connection working from the examples given in the ppp-howto and the isp-hookup-howto. Anyone else have any success using either, or is everone using kppp (or xisp, wvdial, ezppp, or whatever)? Mark --- chris herrnberger wrote:
Steve Mills wrote:
I used YaST to set up the PPP operation, putting in all the details about my ISP as best I know how.
What happens when I try to use Kppp to check my modem is a message that it is busy. If I try to use the generic email client on the taskbar, it locks up and I have to restart the KDE session.
The manual is really very good about PPP setup and I have followed it as closely as I can.
For what ever reason (its beyond me) SuSePPP (setup) does not work for me. IT also screwed all my config files and Kppp would_look_like it was working but had same symptons you had. Suspect you activated diald in the script too.Right? well if you did the solution for me was one of two ways. Both seemed to work equally well. I just re-edited the config files by hand and re-set all the default values. Kpp worked just fine. Second method was simply to reinstall and all worked well also. Your milage may very.
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I no longer use ppp, but back when I first started using linux it was the ppp howto for me. I had a hard time following the documentation I was coming across for setting up ppp, and I finally just ended up spending a morning with the ppp howto and I was up and running. At the time I was using Redhat, and while Redhat's netconfig worked, frankly, using it made me feel lame, so eventually I just resolved that I wouldn't rest until I had written my own functioning scripts. Mark Wagnon wrote:
I must be one of the lucky people who managed to get my dialup connection working from the examples given in the ppp-howto and the isp-hookup-howto. Anyone else have any success using either, or is everone using kppp (or xisp, wvdial, ezppp, or whatever)?
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+----- On Sun, 30 Aug 1998 23:42:10 PDT, Mark Wagnon writes: | | Has suseppp worked for anyone? It didn't work for me. I tried it | when I first installed 5.2 back in May, but I never got any scripts, | so I took a shot at reading the (gasp) howtos relevent to the | subject. I must be one of the lucky people who managed to get my | dialup connection working from the examples given in the ppp-howto | and the isp-hookup-howto. Anyone else have any success using either, | or is everone using kppp (or xisp, wvdial, ezppp, or whatever)? Suseppp nearly worked for me, the only change that I needed to make was to symbolically link /etc/resolv.conf to the appropriate file in ppp-up as I have two isp's, one private and another for work. I recently changed modem and found that the new modem didn't much like the +++ that is written in the default chat script, I changed it to +\d+\d+\d and it worked without any problem. /Michael - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
OK I'm fairly new to suse so I was hoping that someone could help me. I was hoping that someone could tell me about which RPM's are compatible with S.u.S.E. I've been reading a lot of posts here that contain refences to caldera rpm's. Are they compatible? I thought that the only rpm's I could use were the ones distibuted by suse. Up till now I've been using only tar.gz files (which can sometimes be a pain in the butt). It sure would be nice to have more suse rpm's. It would also be nice if I could use the alien to make them (but why go through all the trouble...be just as easy to untar and compile:) Harry - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
You can use libc5 RPMS. RH RPMS have been avoided because they are glibc. I don't know much about Caldera. I heard they are libc5 too so I guess they are o.k. You can also install contributory RPMS so long as you watch out for this basic compatibility. I heard something about glibc binary support with an shlibs6 (?) in 5.3 (which I haven't gotten yet) but I don't know enough on it to comment. Michael On Mon, 31 Aug 1998, Rihmez wrote:
OK I'm fairly new to suse so I was hoping that someone could help me. I was hoping that someone could tell me about which RPM's are compatible with S.u.S.E. I thought that the only rpm's I could use were the ones distibuted by suse. Up till now I've been using only tar.gz files (which can sometimes be a pain in the butt). It sure would be nice to have more suse rpm's. It would also be nice if I could use the alien to make them (but why go through all the trouble...be just as easy to untar and compile:) Harry - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
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So how can I tell if they are libc5 RPMS? Pardon my ignorance:-) harry Michael Johnson wrote:
You can use libc5 RPMS. RH RPMS have been avoided because they are glibc. I don't know much about Caldera. I heard they are libc5 too so I guess they are o.k. You can also install contributory RPMS so long as you watch out for this basic compatibility. I heard something about glibc binary support with an shlibs6 (?) in 5.3 (which I haven't gotten yet) but I don't know enough on it to comment. Michael
On Mon, 31 Aug 1998, Rihmez wrote:
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Hi, again I have this question/problem: Suppose that I am sitting at my machine running SuSE 5.2 and lets say playing Quake. Somebody telnets to it from a different machine and types "startx" at his command line. To my surprise the X server starts at my console. Is there a way to stop that? Moreover, if I telnet my machine and type "quake" from the telnet session window, this starts quake on the main terminal window in the svga mode. Does that have something to do with my "specific" setup or permissions? Any pointers are appreciated, alexm - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
I can't always tell. The names aren't always self-explanatory. Sites that you go to that have both will usually tell you (XFce is a good example). If I can't confirm that it's the right type of rpm I go for a source package. Does anyone have a better answer? <grin> On Mon, 31 Aug 1998, Rihmez wrote:
So how can I tell if they are libc5 RPMS? Pardon my ignorance:-) harry
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Rihmez wrote:
So how can I tell if they are libc5 RPMS? Pardon my ignorance:-) harry
Create a test tgz with alien, then cd to the dir the binary the tgz creates is in and 'ldd foo' to see if it's libc5 or libc6. But that's more work than just trying the darn bin and having it segfault if it's glibc2 :) -- .###. /#######\## -==============================================- ;##### ;# Mike's WindowMaker ;##### ;# <A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org/windowmaker.html"><A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org/windowmaker.html</A">http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org/windowmaker.html \# /## -==============================================- ###'---'#### - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
If he's got a copy on board it;s easy cause he can query it like Karl Eichwalder says. I thought he was asking about the web....<g> and avoiding the iritating problem of wasting dl time on an rpm that won't work. On Mon, 31 Aug 1998, Michael Lankton wrote:
Rihmez wrote:
So how can I tell if they are libc5 RPMS? Pardon my ignorance:-) harry
Create a test tgz with alien, then cd to the dir the binary the tgz creates is in and 'ldd foo' to see if it's libc5 or libc6. But that's more work than just trying the darn bin and having it segfault if it's glibc2 :)
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On 31-Aug-98 Michael Johnson wrote:
You can use libc5 RPMS. RH RPMS have been avoided because they are glibc. I don't know much about Caldera. I heard they are libc5 too so I guess they are o.k. You can also install contributory RPMS so long as you watch out for this basic compatibility. I heard something about glibc binary support with an shlibs6 (?) in 5.3 (which I haven't gotten yet) but I don't know enough on it to comment. Michael
I think we all need to watch out while the glibc wave rolls over us. In
due course we shall settle down happily with glibc (as with the changeover
from a.out to ELF a few years back).
I'm happy that S.u.S.E. are not rushing this: I reckon 5.3 will be my
last upgrade, on "production" machines at least, until the new situation
has shaken down.
On the RPM front: I believe a properly constructed RPM should check for
all its essential dependencies and simply change nothing if these fail.
So you may experience annoyance that something you wanted, and got from
a particular source, won't install; but at least this should not break
anything. Surely this is also true for glibc dependency??
Someone earier posted a comment that Linux will get up new users' noses
if they find that when they want to install something they unexpectedly
need something else which they have to go and look for. While this is
true as far as it goes, I think one should not lose sight of two things.
One is that well-put-together content-rich distributions like S.u.S.E.
should provide most of what a new user is likely to want to use to start
with, without needing to go looking beyond the CDs. The main exception is
special-purpose commercial packages, but again if these are "for Linux"
they should be properly put together so that they work; if they need
special libs etc. that might not be on someone's installation then I
don't see why the commercial CD can't come with these too, just in case.
The other is that Linux lends itself naturally to do-it-yourself
extension and upgrading, and a lot of people who may start wanting an
out-of-the-box solution will, in time, learn how to do it themselves.
Provided (as in the preceding para) what they start with is good enough
to keep them happy for some time, they should manage to make the
transition without too much pain -- and even with interest and enthusiasm!
Best wishes to all,
Ted.
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On Aug 31, 1998, Ted Harding wrote:
I think we all need to watch out while the glibc wave rolls over us. In due course we shall settle down happily with glibc (as with the changeover from a.out to ELF a few years back).
[...]
Provided (as in the preceding para) what they start with is good enough to keep them happy for some time, they should manage to make the transition without too much pain -- and even with interest and enthusiasm!
Well, I love to worry in advance <g>. Does anyone have an idea of what SuSE libc5 users--at least we who are really still newbies--face when SuSE 6.0 with glibc comes out? Will a complete reinstall be required? Will there be an "upgrade" path for older (SuSE) distros? Howard Arons -- Powered by SuSE Linux 5.2 -- kernel 2.0.33 Communications by Mutt 0.93.2 - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
I would imagine that the transition will be quite painful if you intend to use 6.0 as your primary os. I intend to free up about a gig for a 6.0 install while I continue to use 5.3 as my primary os. I imagine there will be substantial teething pains until 6.1 or even 6.2 is released. To S.u.S.E.'s benefit, Redhat and Debian made the trip first, so perhaps S.u.S.E. 6.0 won't suffer from the problems that Redhat did, or to as great an extent anyway. Howard Arons wrote:
Well, I love to worry in advance <g>. Does anyone have an idea of what SuSE libc5 users--at least we who are really still newbies--face when SuSE 6.0 with glibc comes out? Will a complete reinstall be required? Will there be an "upgrade" path for older (SuSE) distros?
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Hi, I erased the original message by mistake but the problem was with a 14gig IBM IDE disk. Here is a URL which might be useful: <A HREF="http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/HOWTO/mini/Large-Disk.html"><A HREF="http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/HOWTO/mini/Large-Disk.html</A">http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/HOWTO/mini/Large-Disk.html I did not have time to read it yet... alexm - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
Thanks for the reply. I had found this howto, but I still wasn't able to solve the problem. I tried everything except hacking the kernel, which I really don't want to do. I'm trying to setup a dual boot system (Linux/win98) on a single 14.4GB IDE drive. I used DOS fdisk to set up the drive: | IBM Boot mgr | linux / | Win98 | extended | Then I ran SuSE setup to try to add the remaining partitions needed. Yast didn't recognize any part of the drive past 1024 cylinders, although the drive has 1757. I used Ctrl Alt F2 to get a prompt while running yast, and used linux fdisk to try to add partitions. Linux fdisk didn't let me add any partitions past 1024 either, so I entered "expert" mode and manually changed the number of cylinders. After a reboot, the problem remains. Another 7GB or so remains after the 1024 cylinder "barrier" that I can't use. If I can't solve the problem within a day or two, I'll go ahead and buy a second 8GB drive just for linux. Hopefully someone out there has been successful in installing a dual boot system on a single large IDE drive. I don't really want 22GB of HD storage just yet, so if anyone else has a suggestion, I'd appreciate it. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi, I erased the original message by mistake but the problem was with a 14gig IBM IDE disk. Here is a URL which might be useful: <A HREF="http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/HOWTO/mini/Large-Disk.html"><A HREF="http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/HOWTO/mini/Large-Disk.html</A">http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/HOWTO/mini/Large-Disk.html I did not have time to read it yet... alexm - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
Hi Alan, Try flattening your disk and put the partitions in with the Linux Fdisk utils and see what happens. DOS's fdisk doesn't recognize the newer disk correctly and could be getting in the way of the other partition utility. I partion large disk with ether disk druid, System Commander, for UNIX's and either 95 / NT for those OS's. If you use DOS fdisk 95 and NT sometime get confused too. Later. -ted Alan Riggins wrote:
Thanks for the reply. I had found this howto, but I still wasn't able to solve the problem. I tried everything except hacking the kernel, which I really don't want to do. I'm trying to setup a dual boot system (Linux/win98) on a single 14.4GB IDE drive. I used DOS fdisk to set up the drive:
| IBM Boot mgr | linux / | Win98 | extended |
Then I ran SuSE setup to try to add the remaining partitions needed. Yast didn't recognize any part of the drive past 1024 cylinders, although the drive has 1757. I used Ctrl Alt F2 to get a prompt while running yast, and used linux fdisk to try to add partitions. Linux fdisk didn't let me add any partitions past 1024 either, so I entered "expert" mode and manually changed the number of cylinders. After a reboot, the problem remains. Another 7GB or so remains after the 1024 cylinder "barrier" that I can't use.
If I can't solve the problem within a day or two, I'll go ahead and buy a second 8GB drive just for linux.
Hopefully someone out there has been successful in installing a dual boot system on a single large IDE drive. I don't really want 22GB of HD storage just yet, so if anyone else has a suggestion, I'd appreciate it.
------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi,
I erased the original message by mistake but the problem was with a 14gig IBM IDE disk. Here is a URL which might be useful: <A HREF="http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/HOWTO/mini/Large-Disk.html"><A HREF="http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/HOWTO/mini/Large-Disk.html</A">http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/HOWTO/mini/Large-Disk.html
I did not have time to read it yet...
alexm
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On Mon, 31 Aug 1998, Howard Arons wrote:
Well, I love to worry in advance <g>. Does anyone have an idea of what SuSE libc5 users--at least we who are really still newbies--face when SuSE 6.0 with glibc comes out?
Umm, I don't worry but to me that is not a minor upgrade. I'll do what I usually do in cases where I'm a little leary. Do a 'test' install of 6.0 somewhere else and keep my main system 5.3. I'll also sit back and wait for the possible bug reports and user feedback... this kind of upgrade is a serious one... I think S.u.S.E. is up to it, but just to be safe... I know major switches in a dists handling can be a bitch... I bet slakware is still regretting that compiler switch they just did.<g> To me changes in system libraries and compilers are to be taken seriously and with care.. -M One is most dishonest towards one's God; he is not _permitted_ to sin. mail: mjohnson@pop3.aebc.com - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
Has suseppp worked for anyone? It didn't work for me. I tried it when I first installed 5.2 back in May, but I never got any scripts, so I took a shot at reading the (gasp) howtos relevent to the subject. I must be one of the lucky people who managed to get my dialup connection working from the examples given in the ppp-howto and the isp-hookup-howto. Anyone else have any success using either, or is everone using kppp (or xisp, wvdial, ezppp, or whatever)?
Mark
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chris herrnberger wrote:
Steve Mills wrote:
I used YaST to set up the PPP operation, putting in all the details
about
my ISP as best I know how.
What happens when I try to use Kppp to check my modem is a message
It hasn't worked for me yet. :/ I installed xfmail last evening and recompiled. At least now I have one mail program that won't hang when I ask it to check but it still gets nowhere. Kppp still reports that my modem is busy. Does anyone have a working Diamond Supra 336i out there? Steve *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 8/30/98, at 11:42 PM, Mark Wagnon wrote: that it
is busy. If I try to use the generic email client on the taskbar, it locks up and I have to restart the KDE session.
The manual is really very good about PPP setup and I have followed it as closely as I can.
For what ever reason (its beyond me) SuSePPP (setup) does not work for me. IT also screwed all my config files and Kppp would_look_like it was working but had same symptons you had. Suspect you activated diald in the script too.Right? well if you did the solution for me was one of two ways. Both seemed to work equally well. I just re-edited the config files by hand and re-set all the default values. Kpp worked just fine. Second method was simply to reinstall and all worked well also. Your milage may very.
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On Aug 30, 1998, Mark Wagnon wrote:
Has suseppp worked for anyone? It didn't work for me. I tried it when I first installed 5.2 back in May, but I never got any scripts, so I took a shot at reading the (gasp) howtos relevent to the subject. I must be one of the lucky people who managed to get my dialup connection working from the examples given in the ppp-howto and the isp-hookup-howto. Anyone else have any success using either, or is everone using kppp (or xisp, wvdial, ezppp, or whatever)?
FWIW, that's exactly my story as well. SuSEppp didn't do diddley squat for me, but I found the ISP-Hookup-HOWTO (and man pppd) to be all that was needed. Of course my ISP doesn't use CHAP/PAP, either. I still use ppp-on/ppp-off from a tty with nary a problem. Howard Arons -- Powered by SuSE Linux 5.2 -- kernel 2.0.33 Communications by Mutt 0.93.2 - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
Has suseppp worked for anyone? It didn't work for me. I tried it when I first installed 5.2 back in May, but I never got any scripts, so I took a shot at reading the (gasp) howtos relevent to the subject. I must be one of the lucky people who managed to get my dialup connection working from the examples given in the ppp-howto and the isp-hookup-howto. Anyone else have any success using either, or is everone using kppp (or xisp, wvdial, ezppp, or whatever)?
FWIW, that's exactly my story as well. SuSEppp didn't do diddley squat for me, but I found the ISP-Hookup-HOWTO (and man pppd) to be all that was needed. Of course my ISP doesn't use CHAP/PAP, either. I still use ppp-on/ppp-off from a tty with nary a problem.
I sorta assumed that suseppp was a front end of pppd. To get ppp up and running on my system, I looked at the man for pppd, wrote my own script for connecting to my host, saw how my host assigned IP's and other info to pppd and inputed necessary infor. My chat script looks like: '' atz OK atdt5555555 CONNECT \r ogin: my_userid assword: my_password > 'pppd' This is without pap or chap authenication... it login on to my remote linux account, authorizes my user name and password, and starts pppd with my local pppd can talk to... You must read on how to setup pppd as a server on the remote machine and how to setup pppd as a client on the local machine... man pppd Jonathan -- =========== =========== Jonathan Paul Cowherd jpcowh01@slug.louisville.edu <A HREF="http://www.slug.louisville.edu/~jpcowh01"><A HREF="http://www.slug.louisville.edu/~jpcowh01</A">http://www.slug.louisville.edu/~jpcowh01 This is my world and I am... World Leader Pretend =========== =========== - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
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