[opensuse] 4.1 beta install or not
Hi, I know some of guys here using kde4.1 beta 2. How's you experience ? Should I install kde4.1 beta 2 or not? -- Sharique uddin Ahmed Farooqui (C++/C# Developer, IT Consultant) http://safknw.blogspot.com/ "Peace" is the Ultimate thing we want. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
I know some of guys here using kde4.1 beta 2. How's you experience ? Should I install kde4.1 beta 2 or not?
If you are going to install any version of KDE4, then definitely go with the latest builds from the Unstable and Community repositories. There is a huge difference in the KDE4 on the DVD and the latest builds. KDE works fine in most usecases for a desktop. There are a few issues with it though, such as: - Some icons are missing/disconnected and you get a generic icon for some mimetypes etc. This can be fixed in the usual way of attaching an icon to a file in KDE. - The traditional KMenu sometimes gets.... confused. To fix this switch to the "slab" menu and back to the traditional. I don't know if this happens with the slab menu as well since I don't use/like the slab menu. - You cannot drag/drop files on the default desktop. This means the desktop cannot be used as temporary storage in the way that you can in KDE3. The fix for this will not be a part of 4.1, but is instead, from what I read, planned for 4.2. The workaround is to use a file manager or the File Viewer plasmoid. - Superkaramba transparencies do not work properly (at least for me) even if you have desktop effects turned on. Small issue since in most cases there is a plasmoid available to do the same job as the Superkaramba widget. The rest, in my experience, are just minor bugs or differences in how the KDE desktop works. Overall, it (the latest build) is fine for day to day use. There is nothing about KDE4 that restricts how I work with it, or that interferes with my job (I use KDE4 100% of the time on my home/work desktop now). Some people claim differently, but I have yet to see any real substantial claim other than.. "it's different and I don't like different" posted here. There are loads of things that are different about KDE4 compared to KDE3... the look and feel is dramatically different... the workflow is different... the way the desktop, and things on the desktop behave is different, etc etc. If you are unsure, install KDE3 or Gnome or whichever GUI is your current normal desktop, and then install KDE4 along side. You can then easily switch between one and the other. C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, 2008-07-07 at 11:48 +0530, Sharique uddin Ahmed Farooqui wrote:
Hi, I know some of guys here using kde4.1 beta 2. How's you experience ? Should I install kde4.1 beta 2 or not?
-- Sharique uddin Ahmed Farooqui (C++/C# Developer, IT Consultant) http://safknw.blogspot.com/ "Peace" is the Ultimate thing we want.
I would have to say yes. There's daily upgrades w/ the the beta. It's faster, a lot less mysterious crashes. The upgrades aren't breaking anything. I'm running Evolution and a news reader on this desktop. My Main workspace is Quanta, FF, Konsole, Geany, pidgin, and on desktop 3 gtkMAN. All w/ very little if any resource bog. Now I haven't done a any benchmark tests, but I'm just mentioning what I have running to give you an idea on how it's running w/ 512MB ram, 1.2ghz AMD dual and 2gb swat. -- Michael S. Dunsavage -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
HI,
I tried to install kde4.1 beta 2 from kde4 factory repo. i found
that alot of packeges are missing for beta2 like Dolphin, konqueror,
etc. Which leaves my kde 4 unusable, so I have to revert back to kde
4.0.4.
.
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Michael S. Dunsavage
On Mon, 2008-07-07 at 11:48 +0530, Sharique uddin Ahmed Farooqui wrote:
Hi, I know some of guys here using kde4.1 beta 2. How's you experience ? Should I install kde4.1 beta 2 or not?
-- Sharique uddin Ahmed Farooqui (C++/C# Developer, IT Consultant) http://safknw.blogspot.com/ "Peace" is the Ultimate thing we want.
I would have to say yes. There's daily upgrades w/ the the beta. It's faster, a lot less mysterious crashes. The upgrades aren't breaking anything. I'm running Evolution and a news reader on this desktop. My Main workspace is Quanta, FF, Konsole, Geany, pidgin, and on desktop 3 gtkMAN. All w/ very little if any resource bog.
Now I haven't done a any benchmark tests, but I'm just mentioning what I have running to give you an idea on how it's running w/ 512MB ram, 1.2ghz AMD dual and 2gb swat.
-- Michael S. Dunsavage
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I tried to install kde4.1 beta 2 from kde4 factory repo. i found that alot of packeges are missing for beta2 like Dolphin, konqueror, etc. Which leaves my kde 4 unusable, so I have to revert back to kde 4.0.4.
Did you look at the Wiki? Did you read the instructions? http://en.opensuse.org/KDE4 C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Sharique uddin Ahmed Farooqui
Hi, I know some of guys here using kde4.1 beta 2. How's you experience ? Should I install kde4.1 beta 2 or not?
I'm using OpenSuse 11.0 with kde 4 as default and also kde 3 and gnome as well.
-- Sharique uddin Ahmed Farooqui (C++/C# Developer, IT Consultant) http://safknw.blogspot.com/ "Peace" is the Ultimate thing we want.
-- Sharique uddin Ahmed Farooqui (C++/C# Developer, IT Consultant) http://safknw.blogspot.com/ "Peace" is the Ultimate thing we want. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 07 July 2008 1:18:23 am Sharique uddin Ahmed Farooqui wrote:
Hi, I know some of guys here using kde4.1 beta 2. How's you experience ? Should I install kde4.1 beta 2 or not?
My experience with kde4.1 beta 2 on a Dell Inspiron 1150 laptop was not good. I first installed the crippled version from the dvd, then deleted that and went for the 4.1. Installation was ok but as some have said, some apps were not available. No big deal as it's a beta. For a while it worked ok but following an update, it went South. On boot my desktop was a blank with no panel, just a white screen. Using alt-f2 for a command line I could start apps, but no panel, no desktop Alt-tab would sho the running apps. Tried the usual startkde and lots of other finger magic, but no magic. I could get a good desktop if I logged in as root. A few days later I deleted the whole thing after a reinstall did nothing new. Went back to Kde3 which worked fine during all this. Will try again in a month or two but not going to spend more time experimenting. No I did not submit a bugzilla. It got so screwed up I dont think I could have made a decent report. YMMV, Regards, Richard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Richard wrote:
On Monday 07 July 2008 1:18:23 am Sharique uddin Ahmed Farooqui wrote:
Hi, I know some of guys here using kde4.1 beta 2. How's you experience ? Should I install kde4.1 beta 2 or not?
My experience with kde4.1 beta 2 on a Dell Inspiron 1150 laptop was not good. I first installed the crippled version from the dvd, then deleted that and went for the 4.1. Installation was ok but as some have said, some apps were not available. No big deal as it's a beta. For a while it worked ok but following an update, it went South. On boot my desktop was a blank with no panel, just a white screen. Using alt-f2 for a command line I could start apps, but no panel, no desktop Alt-tab would sho the running apps. Tried the usual startkde and lots of other finger magic, but no magic. I could get a good desktop if I logged in as root. A few days later I deleted the whole thing after a reinstall did nothing new. Went back to Kde3 which worked fine during all this. Will try again in a month or two but not going to spend more time experimenting.
No I did not submit a bugzilla. It got so screwed up I dont think I could have made a decent report.
YMMV,
Regards, Richard
Hi Richard I had this very problem today after updating to the latest KDE 4.1 (KDE 4.1 RC1, I believe). The cause seemed to be an incomplete installation since I was able to do a 'zypper ref' on the command line, then go into Yast2->Software Management->Choose 'Patterns'->'KDE4 Base System', then right click on the package list on the right and choose' Update if newer version available'. I did did for 4 patterns - KDE4 Base system, KDE3 base system, KDE4 desktop environment and KDE3 desktop environment. Yast downloaded about 200Mib of updates, then I was able to restart and login successfully to KDE4. Should be worth a try, KDE 4 keeps improving on a daily basis and some silly bugs get eliminated pretty quickly. Cheers Pete -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 07 July 2008 3:06:56 pm Pete Connolly wrote:
I had this very problem today after updating to the latest KDE 4.1 (KDE 4.1 RC1, I believe). The cause seemed to be an incomplete installation since I was able to do a 'zypper ref' on the command line, then go into Yast2->Software Management->Choose 'Patterns'->'KDE4 Base System', then right click on the package list on the right and choose' Update if newer version available'.
Thanks Pete, I had tried the update via yast as well as Smart and Zypper before I gave up. They must have fixed it in the last couple of days. I'll try the install again in a few days and see how it goes. Regards, Richard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hi,
I have tried again and this time I'm able to install it. Although things are
not working well.
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 2:34 AM, Richard
On Monday 07 July 2008 3:06:56 pm Pete Connolly wrote:
I had this very problem today after updating to the latest KDE 4.1 (KDE 4.1 RC1, I believe). The cause seemed to be an incomplete installation since I was able to do a 'zypper ref' on the command line, then go into Yast2->Software Management->Choose 'Patterns'->'KDE4 Base System', then right click on the package list on the right and choose' Update if newer version available'.
Thanks Pete, I had tried the update via yast as well as Smart and Zypper before I gave up. They must have fixed it in the last couple of days. I'll try the install again in a few days and see how it goes.
Regards, Richard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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On Thu, 2008-07-10 at 15:59 +0530, Sharique uddin Ahmed Farooqui wrote:
Hi, I have tried again and this time I'm able to install it. Although things are not working well.
Elaborate.
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