On Friday 24 November 2006 14:11, Flávio Moringa wrote:

you just had to search a little harder... It's here: ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/linux/suse/apt/SuSE/10.1-i386/RPMS.suser-scorot/

Flávio, you're a gentleman! Thanks ever so much - I'm off to install now. On Friday 24 November 2006 13:23, Marcus Rueckert wrote:

no packager had time for this so far. neither internally or externally.

I wonder if there is any possibility of getting such packages included in 10.2? With (I'm sure) 70% of web-hosters still on PHP4, it really would be very handy to have these available. -- Pob hwyl / Best wishes Kevin Donnelly www.kyfieithu.co.uk - KDE yn Gymraeg www.eurfa.org.uk - Geiriadur rhydd i'r Gymraeg www.rhedadur.org.uk - Rhedeg berfau Cymraeg www.cymrux.org.uk - Linux Cymraeg ar un CD -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Friday 24 November 2006 14:27, Marcus Meissner wrote:

Even php5 will soon be obsoleted by php6 by upstream PHP development.

I understand that, and of course we all like to have cutting-edge options available to us. But let's stay in the real world, shall we? It took almost 2 years for Apache2 to be widely used, and at least hosters have a large degree of control over that. Many of their customers, however, want to run PHP apps that have never been upgraded to PHP5+, so there is a big incentive to the lower-tier hosters to keep PHP4 on their systems, and that's what they do. Are you seriously suggesting that people who need to develop sites for the small businesses that tend to use these hosters on cost grounds will no longer have the tools available in SUSE to allow them to do that? I think that is an extremely strange decision, but it is of course up to SUSE. If it is the policy, though, it would help to have it stated somewhere, so that people like me know that they need to use an old SUSE version, or some other distro, for that. -- Pob hwyl / Best wishes Kevin Donnelly www.kyfieithu.co.uk - KDE yn Gymraeg www.eurfa.org.uk - Geiriadur rhydd i'r Gymraeg www.rhedadur.org.uk - Rhedeg berfau Cymraeg www.cymrux.org.uk - Linux Cymraeg ar un CD -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Hi Michal On Friday 24 November 2006 15:20, Michal Marek wrote:

The sad part of the story is that people who are able to "compile it themselves" don't seem to need php4, and people who need it aren't willing to do the packaging :(

Yes, I suppose I could compile it (although it is sometimes not the easiest), but it's so much nicer to be able to install an rpm on new machines, reinstalls, customers, etc. SUSE spoils me, you see :-)

So, given that this is not the first request, I can repack the 10.0 php4 for 10.1 and 10.2 in the buildservice next week, but do not expect too much support for it (that is: I can continue adding security fixes from 10.0, but bugreports without attached patch will have very very low priority). Upstream doesn't care much about php4 either.

I'll try the scorot packages for now, but if it were possible without too much difficulty to do 10.1/10.2 packages that would be nice. It may be that by 10.3 the shift towards PHP5 among low-tier hosters will have happened, and I can stop whinging. Thanks. -- Pob hwyl / Best wishes Kevin Donnelly www.kyfieithu.co.uk - KDE yn Gymraeg www.eurfa.org.uk - Geiriadur rhydd i'r Gymraeg www.rhedadur.org.uk - Rhedeg berfau Cymraeg www.cymrux.org.uk - Linux Cymraeg ar un CD -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org