On Monday 17 April 2006 14:22, Kai Ponte wrote:
Being a newbie and not knowing about the innards of how GNU/Linux
Being a newbie, one of the first things to learn is that it is NOT GNU/Linux, it is just Linux.
(Much as the GNU people would like you to think that way)
From RMS's speech in Australia the other week, "The apolitical
Heh, I was wondering if anyone would pick up on that. philosophy of Linus Torvalds ...the main basis for promoting his views because it is attributed to him directly by labeling the GNU system as Linux. And that is why I ask people to call the system as GNU/Linux." Interesting comment, I thought. I do more call it just Linux and not GNU/Linux. Besides a Gnu, IMO, isn't as nice a mascot as Tux. -- kai ponte www.perfectreign.com || www.livebeans.com linux - genuine windows replacement part
On Monday 17 April 2006 15:03, Kai Ponte wrote:
Heh, I was wondering if anyone would pick up on that.
From RMS's speech in Australia the other week, "The apolitical
philosophy of Linus Torvalds ...the main basis for promoting his views because it is attributed to him directly by labeling the GNU system as Linux. And that is why I ask people to call the system as GNU/Linux."
Interesting comment, I thought.
I do more call it just Linux and not GNU/Linux. Besides a Gnu, IMO, isn't as nice a mascot as Tux.
Quoting from that egotistical maniac is almost as bad. I just took a look at RMS's personal home page for the first time. Made me gag. He's obviously smoking some non-standard stuff.... www.stallman.org/ This from a writeup about Linus: "Only about 2% of the current Linux kernel is written by Torvalds himself. Despite the relative size of his contribution, Torvalds remains the ultimate authority on what new code is incorporated into the Linux kernel. Torvalds generally stays out of non-kernel-related debates. The Linux kernel, when combined with software developed by many others, (mainly the GNU system) results in a so-called Linux distribution. Most people refer to this combination as just Linux. However some, including Richard Stallman, refer to it as "GNU/Linux." Torvalds maintains that the name "GNU/Linux" is only justified if you make a GNU-based distribution." He also claims that calling it GNU/Linux is just 'ridiculous'. More info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU/Linux_naming_controversy
On Monday 17 April 2006 3:19 pm, Bruce Marshall wrote:
Quoting from that egotistical maniac is almost as bad. I just took a look at RMS's personal home page for the first time. Made me gag. He's obviously smoking some non-standard stuff....
www.stallman.org/
Agreed, but we own RMS a debt of gratitude for his many contributions.
First, was Emacs (the VI people will dispute this of course :-). But, the
major contribtribution is really the Free Software Foundation and the
licenses that much of the software around Linux (including the kernel)
uses. In essence, he is the founder of the Open Source movement. (I make
that statement with a bit of intepidation since so many others, like Eric
Raymond have also made tremendous contributions).
Many people misinterpret "Free Software". To RMS and the FSF it means "free"
as in freedom, not "free" as in free beer.
--
Jerry Feldman
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