SuSE 9.0 is up and running for me, however, I have always been a Gnome user and SuSE is primarily a KDE-distro. I feel compelled to learn and to like KDE, so I am doing just that by forcing myself to use it. However, I remember now why I used Gnome in the first place, all the good applications are GTK-based. Nothing is stopping me from running GTK apps in KDE other than the fact that none of my KDE display preferences apply to my GTK apps (other than window styles). My biggest problem right now is that of my font sizes. Fonts in my GTK apps such as Mozilla and Gaim are all very small. I am running at 1280X1024 on a 20" monitor (Sun GDM-20E20 which was not in the list so I chose a GDM-17E20). If I drop the resolution down to 1024X768 everything is annoyingly huge. Because these are GTK apps, you would think I could just change my GTK display preferences. To do so I log into Gnome under the same account, from here I increase the font sizes. Everything looks fine; now I log back into KDE, the fonts are unchanged. What's up? Jason Pacheco Systems Developer Technology Center for Cables & Connectors Naval Undersea Warfare Center
Because these are GTK apps, you would think I could just change my GTK display preferences. To do so I log into Gnome under the same account, from here I increase the font sizes. Everything looks fine; now I log back into KDE, the fonts are unchanged. What's up?
You need to have gnome-settings-daemon running - you can either do this yourself by putting it in your Autostart folder on KDE, or you can try the control-center2 package from www.usr-local-bin.org (Misc Stuff section). But, be sure to read the release notes with it on the site if you do :) Or, just use GNOME, if that's what you prefer. -- James Ogley, Webmaster, Rubber Turnip james@rubberturnip.org.uk http://www.rubberturnip.org.uk Jabber: riggwelter@myjabber.net Using Free Software since 1994, running GNU/Linux (SuSE 9.0) GNOME updates for SuSE: http://www.usr-local-bin.org
In a previous message, Pacheco Jason NPRI <PachecoJ@Npt.NUWC.Navy.Mil> wrote:
SuSE 9.0 is up and running for me, however, I have always been a Gnome user and SuSE is primarily a KDE-distro. I feel compelled to learn and to like KDE
No need for such extreme measures. If you don't get on with KDE, there's no need to use it at all. The KDE bias of SuSE doesn't mean that Gnome is seriously disadvantaged.
Because these are GTK apps, you would think I could just change my GTK display preferences. To do so I log into Gnome under the same account, from here I increase the font sizes. Everything looks fine; now I log back into KDE, the fonts are unchanged. What's up?
You need to have the gnome-settings-daemon running IIUC. You could install the usr-local-bin.org Gnome upgrades, which set this to run by default, or you could do it yourself. A couple of things, though. First, KDE uses the physical dpi of your monitor but Gnome always uses 96 dpi, so the same point size defined in both environments will be displayed differently. This could also be why you are getting different sizes. To check this, you could run 'gnomecc' (for gtk1) or 'nautilus preferences://' (for gtk2) from within KDE - no need to log into Gnome for this. Finally, I'd recommend using a theme that crosses KDE and Gnome. AFAIK, there is only one theme that does this ATM - Keramik/Geramik. All your apps will then look the same. (Does anyone else know of more such environment-crossing themes?) John -- John Pettigrew Headstrong Games john@headstrong-games.co.uk Fun : Strategy : Price http://www.headstrong-games.co.uk/ Board games that won't break the bank Valley of the Kings: ransack an ancient Egyptian tomb but beware of mummies!
Finally, I'd recommend using a theme that crosses KDE and Gnome. AFAIK, there is only one theme that does this ATM - Keramik/Geramik. All your apps will then look the same. (Does anyone else know of more such environment-crossing themes?)
QtCurve (available from www.usr-local-bin.org - Themes section) At some point I might do a rebuild of the Wonderland package to include the KDE version of the theme too, if I have the time... -- James Ogley, Webmaster, Rubber Turnip james@rubberturnip.org.uk http://www.rubberturnip.org.uk Jabber: riggwelter@myjabber.net Using Free Software since 1994, running GNU/Linux (SuSE 9.0) GNOME updates for SuSE: http://www.usr-local-bin.org
In a previous message, James Ogley <james@usr-local-bin.org> wrote:
(Does anyone else know of more such environment-crossing themes?)
QtCurve (available from www.usr-local-bin.org - Themes section)
I just installed this theme, and it doesn't show up in the lists for KDE or Gnome in the control centres. Do I need to do something to make it do so? (Using SuSE 8.2.) John -- John Pettigrew Headstrong Games john@headstrong-games.co.uk Fun : Strategy : Price http://www.headstrong-games.co.uk/ Board games that won't break the bank Fields of Valour: 2 Norse clans battle on one of 3 different boards
I just installed this theme, and it doesn't show up in the lists for KDE or Gnome in the control centres. Do I need to do something to make it do so? (Using SuSE 8.2.)
Did you install the package from the site? Cos that'll install the GNOME bits into the 9.0 locations, which are different to 8.2 (the 8.2 package is in the APT archive) As for the KDE bits, they certainly appear in 'Styles' when I run the KDE control centre -- James Ogley, Webmaster, Rubber Turnip james@rubberturnip.org.uk http://www.rubberturnip.org.uk Jabber: riggwelter@myjabber.net Using Free Software since 1994, running GNU/Linux (SuSE 9.0) GNOME updates for SuSE: http://www.usr-local-bin.org
In a previous message, James Ogley <james@usr-local-bin.org> wrote:
Did you install the package from the site? Cos that'll install the GNOME bits into the 9.0 locations, which are different to 8.2 (the 8.2 package is in the APT archive)
Ah - that was it :-/ Reinstalled the versions from the archive and all is now well :-) Thanks, John -- John Pettigrew Headstrong Games john@headstrong-games.co.uk Fun : Strategy : Price http://www.headstrong-games.co.uk/ Board games that won't break the bank Fields of Valour: 2 Norse clans battle on one of 3 different boards
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