( waiting for my boxed set to do a full everything and the kitchen sink install ) I just put it on an old p3 , just to "see" if it would have any problems.. I will be redoing the box anyway , because we are changing the MOBO soon, so it will be on an older ( Athlon THunderbird )chip but that should be no problem. It's gone very well, tho I was surprised that xmms wasn't on the dvd (download), it's going to be pretty easy to find I suspect. I tried to find it to install it after the basic install, i.e. software management--> search--> xmms, and it didn't appear.. ( and the search isn't comcerned w/ capital letters or lower case ones ) It is only an oddity, but It made me wonder. Marcus, love what you & the rest of the *keeping us safe from ourselves and others* "team" have done. I still have all my options open, but out of the box the darned thing "just works" . Firewall and everything is just ticking along w/ no real time involved in tweaking things yet, but as smoothly as it's gone so far, I don't anticipate any problems. The one click install really exhits. Defaults for security and everything are really tight and even on this older and MUCH slower box reboots or just general issues seem much faster. I love that Novell has included the mp3 stuff out of the box.. ( now please stop whining about that .) I haven't installed stuff to play dvds but that isn't something I do in the first days of a new install anyway. But the fact that little P3 and probably only one 256m memory stick.. is "speedy" again, it's at least as fast as when it was new. I'm pleased. :) The one thing I get from folks who sell linux hardware , when I ask them to install Suse as my OS of choice, is red hat et al is much faster.. I'm guessing that is ubuntu these days. We haven't bought any new hardware for a couple of years that hasn't been a bare drive or ram. We are in the market for a new computer ( at least one,) so I'd appreciate if anyone installs 10.3 on things like emachines etc. (yeah, some bosses are skinflints on everyones' computers.<sigh> That is unlikely to change til the next generation of users comes along. ) if they would post here their thoughts and or issues. I know some of you have the lower priced versions of stuff.. Thank you to all who worked on this release. -- j I've lived in the real world enough, we're all here because we ain't all there. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org