On Thursday, November 24, 2011 12:50:54 PM Basil Chupin wrote:

On 24/11/11 12:18, Roger Luedecke wrote:

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It was working perfectly, better than in 11.4 which was still glitchy and suddenly its acting worse than before. I made a forum post, but am out of ideas for finding out how to debug it. The link will show you what the issue is and what I have done so far. http://goo.gl/Iut0B

In 11.4 you could get rid of pulseaudio but in 12.1 you can either not install it when installing 12.1 or you can delete it in YaST. But even if doing either you ought to go into YaST>Sound and unselect Pulseaudio in the Other options (bottom right-hand) - at leas this is what *I* do.

Now....

I think what you should do is to get rid of pulseaudio and install alsamixer and the gui for it. Then have some running which uses the sound card and run 'alsamixergui' and play around with the sliders/muting until you find out which of the settings is doing the wrong thing. For example, I was getting some terrible din from my Audigy because for some reason the IEEE-something channel was active.

BTW, if you cannot run the graphic UI for alsa you could run 'alsamixer' in a terminal.

BC Well, it was working perfectly... better than ever. Then suddenly its teh sux. I would rather fix it, especially since that gives me info for a bug report. In 11.4 I tried disabling it with YaST and it didn't seem to make an ounce of difference except that it screwed up sound for a number of applications.

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On 24/11/11 14:07, Basil Chupin wrote:

On 24/11/11 13:16, Roger Luedecke wrote:

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On Thursday, November 24, 2011 12:50:54 PM Basil Chupin wrote:

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On 24/11/11 12:18, Roger Luedecke wrote:

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It was working perfectly, better than in 11.4 which was still glitchy and suddenly its acting worse than before. I made a forum post, but am out of ideas for finding out how to debug it. The link will show you what the issue is and what I have done so far. http://goo.gl/Iut0B In 11.4 you could get rid of pulseaudio but in 12.1 you can either not install it when installing 12.1 or you can delete it in YaST. But even if doing either you ought to go into YaST>Sound and unselect Pulseaudio in the Other options (bottom right-hand) - at leas this is what *I* do.

Now....

I think what you should do is to get rid of pulseaudio and install alsamixer and the gui for it. Then have some running which uses the sound card and run 'alsamixergui' and play around with the sliders/muting until you find out which of the settings is doing the wrong thing. For example, I was getting some terrible din from my Audigy because for some reason the IEEE-something channel was active.

BTW, if you cannot run the graphic UI for alsa you could run 'alsamixer' in a terminal.

BC Well, it was working perfectly... better than ever. Then suddenly its teh sux. I would rather fix it, especially since that gives me info for a bug report. In 11.4 I tried disabling it with YaST and it didn't seem to make an ounce of difference except that it screwed up sound for a number of applications.

I already stated that in 11.4 you cannot fool around with pulseaudio: it won't be removed - but you can disable it in YaST>Sound>Other options.

Anyway, good luck with your problem.

BC

BTW, Roger, I forgot to mention that you would want to install 'pavucontrol' for pulseaudio. BC -- Diapers and politicians should be changed often; both for the same reason. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 12:50:54 +1100, Basil Chupin wrote:

I think what you should do is to get rid of pulseaudio and install alsamixer and the gui for it.

Removing pa is not a good idea! The problems are mostly lack of a good documentation as pa normally does work correctly but sometimes needs to be configured differently. For me the killer feature of pa are the assignment of audio devices like bluetooth headset to applications and application specific mixers. Philipp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 25/11/11 21:39, Philipp Thomas wrote:

On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 12:50:54 +1100, Basil Chupin wrote:

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I think what you should do is to get rid of pulseaudio and install alsamixer and the gui for it.

Removing pa is not a good idea! The problems are mostly lack of a good documentation as pa normally does work correctly but sometimes needs to be configured differently. For me the killer feature of pa are the assignment of audio devices like bluetooth headset to applications and application specific mixers.

Pulseaudio *used* to work poorly, this is not the case anymore in my experience. The OP should try uploading debug information of pulseaudio to the bug report in question,. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_PulseAudio_problems -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 02:46, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:

Pulseaudio *used* to work poorly, this is not the case anymore in my experience.

Very true. PA in its early incarnations was a disaster - it was the first thing I would rip out of a new openSUSE install. It barely worked at best. Now though, on every machine I've installed on lately, it "just works" without getting in the way. Configuring which devices are used for what is very easy via the KDE Multimedia settings (I haven't tried it in Gnome though... the same?) I have zero problems now using PA with audio quality, configuring.. pretty much everything audio related across desktop PCs and Laptops/Netbooks with various sound cards. So... give it a chance, it actually works now. C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org