[opensuse] No window decorations on second screen
Hello listmates,
I have just hooked up a second monitor to my machine, with a NVidia 8600 GT
dual head video card. I am using the proprietary driver. This all works, and
I can use the second monitor by moving my mouse to the left and doing what I
need to do there.
There is one problem, however. All windows on the second monitor are drawn
without window decoration, which kind of makes the second monitor useless.
Does anyone know how that might be fixed, please?
Googling gave me several links to the Ubuntu forums, which told me several
people are experiencing similar problems, but only when they are running Xgl.
I am not using Xgl, as far as I can tell.
It also seems that using automatic tools like SaX2 and nvidia-settings have
messed up my xorg.conf. However, I am unsure which portions I could safely
remove and still have a running X.
My xorg.conf (generated by nvidia-settings):
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# nvidia-settings: X configuration file generated by nvidia-settings
# nvidia-settings: version 1.0 (buildmeister@builder57) Thu Jul 17 18:40:12
PDT 2008
# /.../
# SaX generated X11 config file
# Created on: 2008-11-21T21:32:21+0100.
#
# Version: 8.1
# Contact: Marcus Schaefer
Hello listmates,
I have just hooked up a second monitor to my machine, with a NVidia 8600 GT dual head video card. I am using the proprietary driver. This all works, and I can use the second monitor by moving my mouse to the left and doing what I need to do there.
There is one problem, however. All windows on the second monitor are drawn without window decoration, which kind of makes the second monitor useless. Does anyone know how that might be fixed, please?
Googling gave me several links to the Ubuntu forums, which told me several people are experiencing similar problems, but only when they are running Xgl. I am not using Xgl, as far as I can tell. It also seems that using automatic tools like SaX2 and nvidia-settings have messed up my xorg.conf. However, I am unsure which portions I could safely remove and still have a running X.
I have the same problem with an NVIDIA FX-6200 card driven by the latest proprietary nvidia driver. I do not use xgl either. As I see in your xorg conf file your second monitor is configured as an independent second monitor, ie. tvinview is not activated. (Xinerama is turned on, however it has effect only if twinview is ativated as well, I think. Please correct me if I am wrong.) Are you using kde? I have kde 3.5.9 and it looks the second monitor has a complete independent kde desktop. The background is different, taskbar is diferent and windows have no decorations, they can not be moved. I think we should find out where the kde settings of the second monitor are stored and maybe we could tweak them there. The other strangeness is that on another system with an older kde (opensuse package 3.5.7 or 3.5.8) this problem does not not show up, that is window decoration are not missing. Please, if you find an explanation/solutinon, let me know. Thanks, IG ______________________________________________________________________ VÁSÁROLNA? SEGÍTÜNK! Igényeljen hitelkártyát online és élvezze Ön is a vásárlás szabadságát! http://ad.adverticum.net/b/cl,1,6022,303598,371723/click.prm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 13 December 2008, Istvan Gabor wrote:
I have the same problem with an NVIDIA FX-6200 card driven by the latest proprietary nvidia driver. I do not use xgl either. As I see in your xorg conf file your second monitor is configured as an independent second monitor, ie. tvinview is not activated. (Xinerama is turned on, however it has effect only if twinview is ativated as well, I think. Please correct me if I am wrong.)
Yes, it's configured as an indepent screen. I want it that way, because then I can run a game full screen on the primary monitor, while my email, web browser and Kopete can live on the second monitor. It works fine, except for the missing window decorations. I don't want to use Xinerama, since that would stretch the current display over both monitors. I think you're correct about Twinview needing to be activated before Xinerama will work, but I'm not sure either.
Are you using kde? I have kde 3.5.9 and it looks the second monitor has a complete independent kde desktop. The background is different, taskbar is diferent and windows have no decorations, they can not be moved.
Yes, KDE 3.5.10, release 31.2. Indeed, the second monitor seems to have a completely different KDE desktop, with different background and all.
I think we should find out where the kde settings of the second monitor are stored and maybe we could tweak them there. The other strangeness is that on another system with an older kde (opensuse package 3.5.7 or 3.5.8) this problem does not not show up, that is window decoration are not missing.
This is actually the first time I have tried this and I don't have an older KDE available anymore. It seems to be a problem specific to KDE in combination with the NVidia proprietary driver. With ATI cards, this problem doesn't arise. Perhaps we should file a bug report with NVidia?
Please, if you find an explanation/solutinon, let me know.
I will. You please do the same. Joop
I have posted the same question on the NVidia message board, since this seems to be an Nvidia problem, not a problem with KDE. It's only people with KDE and the NVidia proprietary driver who have this issue, not with ATI cards. http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=124677
I have posted the same question on the NVidia message board, >since this seems to be an Nvidia problem, not a problem with KDE. It's only people >with KDE and the NVidia proprietary driver who have this issue, not with >ATI cards.
Hello: I don't think this is an nvidia issue, on the contrary I am confident that this is a kde problem. My experience support this. I have two different computers, both with opensuse 10.3, same kernel (kernel-default-2.6.22.18-0.2), same nvidia packages (x11-video-nvidiaG01-173.14.12-0.1, nvidia-gfxG01-kmp-default-173.14.12_2.6.22.18_0.2-0.1). Both computers has nvidia FX-6200 graphics cards (though from different manufacturers). One system has kde 3.5.7 (kdebase3-3.5.7-87.2), on this system window decorations are shown, and windows can be moved. The other system has kde 3.5.10 (kdebase3-3.5.10-24.4), on this system there are no window decorations and windows can not be moved on the second screen. Cheers, IG <br><br>________________________________________________________<br><a href="http://ad.hu.doubleclick.net/clk;209712425;31466077;f?http://www.t-home.hu/lakossagi/internet/laptop_es_internet"> Mielőtt elfelejtem! Hallottad, hogy Laptop + net 19 940 Ft-tól, többféle kombinációban, 2 éves hűségidővel rendelhető! </a> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hello: Now I am even more convinced that kde is the culprit. I have installed openSUSE 11.0 on the same computer (on a different partition) where the window decorations are shown (in openSUSE 10.3 with kde 3.5.7). In opensuse 11.0 with kde 3.5.9 there are no window decorations on the second screen (same hardware!). openSUSE 11.0 has the following packages installed: kernel-pae-2.6.25.11-0.1 x11-video-nvidiaG01-173.14.12-0.1 nvidia-gfxG01-kmp-pae-173.14.12_2.6.25.11_0.1-0.1 kdebase3-3.5.9-65.1 Cheers, IG -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 18 December 2008, Istvan Gabor wrote:
Now I am even more convinced that kde is the culprit. I have installed openSUSE 11.0 on the same computer (on a different partition) where the window decorations are shown (in openSUSE 10.3 with kde 3.5.7). In opensuse 11.0 with kde 3.5.9 there are no window decorations on the second screen (same hardware!). openSUSE 11.0 has the following packages installed: kernel-pae-2.6.25.11-0.1 x11-video-nvidiaG01-173.14.12-0.1 nvidia-gfxG01-kmp-pae-173.14.12_2.6.25.11_0.1-0.1 kdebase3-3.5.9-65.1
Hello Istvan, It looks like you might be on to something here... But from all I have read about this online, it's KDE users who have an NVidia card and use the proprietary driver. So maybe there's something not right in the combination KDE - NVidia proprietary driver? Maybe for older versions of KDE that was not a problem, but something is probably broken then in the 3.5.9 and 3.5.10 releases... Joop
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 16:28:06 +0100, you wrote:
There is one problem, however. All windows on the second monitor are drawn without window decoration, which kind of makes the second monitor useless. Does anyone know how that might be fixed, please?
I don't know how to fix it, but at work I have two LC displays connected to an Nvidia 7600 and it works flawlessly with the proprietary driver on 11.0 and now 11.1.
It also seems that using automatic tools like SaX2 and nvidia-settings have messed up my xorg.conf. However, I am unsure which portions I could safely remove and still have a running X.
Just try it :) Change to runlevel 3, rename xorg.conf (like xorg.conf.original), start sax2 with 'sax2 -m 0=nvidia', configure as you'd like it and then do 'init 5' afterwards to startup xdm/kdm/gdm again. If the configuration doesn't work, change to the console, do 'init 3' as root, do 'mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf.original /etc/X11/xorg.conf' and presto you have your old configuration back. Philipp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Istvan Gabor
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Joop Beris
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Philipp Thomas