I am in the midst of upgrading several key components of my system, and in the process I've been helping a less cutting edge friend upgrade his pc with my leftovers. I don't ever plan on using a modem again, but I wouldn't mind having one in a drawer somewhere just in case the need arose. This friend has a pci 28.8 modem, and I was wondering if these devices worked fine in linux. I never had much luck getting my old pnp isa modem working even with isapnp, so I had bought an external 56k and never had a problem with it. My old 56k external is going to my friend, and I was thinking about shaving the price I'm giving him in exchange for his old pci modem, but I wanted to make sure it would get detected by linux first. Thanks in advance. -- .###. /#######\## -==============================================- ;##### ;# Mike's WindowMaker ;##### ;# <A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org/windowmaker.html"><A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org/windowmaker.html</A">http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org/windowmaker.html \# /## -==============================================- ###'---'#### - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
I personally steer clear of internal modems. Maybe you can find an old external 28.8 somewhere cheap? How goes that upgrade? By any chance do you have the URL for that motherboard page. The one where the guy reviews them and makes suggestions? I too am looking to do a little uprgrading this weekend. Thanks, Mark --- Michael Lankton wrote:
This friend has a pci 28.8 modem, and I was wondering if these devices worked fine in linux. I never had much luck getting my old pnp isa modem working even with isapnp, so I had bought an external 56k and never had a problem with it. My old 56k external is going to my friend, and I was thinking about shaving the price I'm giving him in exchange for his old pci modem, but I wanted to make sure it would get detected by linux first. Thanks in advance.
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Mark Wagnon wrote:
By any chance do you have the URL for that motherboard page. The one where the guy reviews them and makes suggestions?
Try <A HREF="http://www.motherboards.org/"><A HREF="http://www.motherboards.org/</A">http://www.motherboards.org/ George - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
George Toft wrote:
Try <A HREF="http://www.motherboards.org/"><A HREF="http://www.motherboards.org/</A">http://www.motherboards.org/
No offense, but that site's current reviews are a bunch of obsolete boards. Two AT boards, an LX board, a TX board, 2 HX boards, an FX board, and a VX board?????? If anyone is interested in reviews of motherboards that _are_not_already_obsolete_, check out Tom's and Anandtech for comprehensive reviews complete with benchmark results and overclocking benchmarks. <A HREF="http://sysdoc.pair.com"><A HREF="http://sysdoc.pair.com</A">http://sysdoc.pair.com <A HREF="http://www.anandtech.com"><A HREF="http://www.anandtech.com</A">http://www.anandtech.com Currently the Abit Bx6 and the Asus P2B are the cream of the BX boards, but many of the boards out there offer great performance. Go with a manufacturer you feel comfortable with and compare their performance with the market leaders. I just purchased an Asus P2B myself. -- .###. /#######\## -==============================================- ;##### ;# Mike's WindowMaker ;##### ;# <A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org/windowmaker.html"><A HREF="http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org/windowmaker.html</A">http://tasteslikechicken.ml.org/windowmaker.html \# /## -==============================================- ###'---'#### - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
Michael Lankton wrote:
George Toft wrote:
Try <A HREF="http://www.motherboards.org/"><A HREF="http://www.motherboards.org/</A">http://www.motherboards.org/
No offense, but that site's current reviews are a bunch of obsolete boards. Two AT boards, an LX board, a TX board, 2 HX boards, an FX board, and a VX board?????? If anyone is interested in reviews of motherboards that _are_not_already_obsolete_, check out Tom's and Anandtech for comprehensive reviews complete with benchmark results and overclocking benchmarks. <A HREF="http://sysdoc.pair.com"><A HREF="http://sysdoc.pair.com</A">http://sysdoc.pair.com <A HREF="http://www.anandtech.com"><A HREF="http://www.anandtech.com</A">http://www.anandtech.com Currently the Abit Bx6 and the Asus P2B are the cream of the BX boards, but many of the boards out there offer great performance. Go with a manufacturer you feel comfortable with and compare their performance with the market leaders. I just purchased an Asus P2B myself.
I have a Tyan that out-benched the P2B, but that doesn't matter....Tyan doesn't give us any problems. Good point, Mike.....use what you feel comfortable with. Fred -- - Windows 98 supports real multitasking - it can boot and crash simultaneously - Fred A. Miller, Systems Administrator Cornell Univ. Press Services fmiller@lightlink.com fm@cupserv.org - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
Michael Lankton wrote:
George Toft wrote:
Try <A HREF="http://www.motherboards.org/"><A HREF="http://www.motherboards.org/</A">http://www.motherboards.org/
No offense, but that site's current reviews are a bunch of obsolete boards. Two AT boards, an LX board, a TX board, 2 HX boards, an FX board, and a VX board??????
Oh, I'm not offended. Since you seem to know a bit about motherboards (and I don't), could you explain, briefly, what the big deal is about them and what these letters mean? I just bought a Shuttle Spacewalker HOT-569A (430TX chipset), and it hauls butt. Since I only paid $89 (or so) for it, I'm inclined to believe it's a cheap board. Your explanation should help others in the future. George - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
The current cat's pajamas is the BX chipset. This chipset has a 100MHz FSB (front side bus) as opposed to the 66MHz fsb previous chipsets employed. Intel Slot 1 chipsets: BX- first 100MHz fsb, agp, supports mobile pentium2, atx form factor LX- 66MHz fsb, first agp, atx form factor EX- celeron Intel Socket 7 chipsets: TX HX FX I can't find a really good source for what the different socket 7 boards introduced. The new Slot 2 (Xeon) boards will use NX and GX chipsets, but since I won't be getting a Xeon anytime soon I haven't studied them. I don't claim to be an expert on mobos, the only ones I've looked at are the BX chipset boards because I was in the market for a mobo upgrade recently. Both Tom's and Anandtech are excellent sources for more information, and their benchmarks and reviews are usually rather similar, which gives me more faith in their assessment. I have seen reviews on other sites that weren't agreed with by their online peers, so I pretty much stick to Tom's and Anand's. They are both very timely as well, both having reviewed the Matrox G200, nVidia TNT, s3 savage 3d, and 3dfx's Banshee boards long before the boards were on the market, which is nice for people who are shopping for new silicon, knowing whether or not waiting for board X is worth while or should they just go get board Y now. Regarding the BX chipset motherboards; these are all pretty fast boards. As long as there aren't any compatibility problems with a particular board you can't go too far wrong. I happen to like Asus boards, Fred likes Tyan (Tom from Tom's Hardware runs a dual processor Tyan in his personal box), it's all good :) Until I install this new Asus in my box I'm running a Micronics 55-Hi HX chipset board, and I am remarkably pleased with it. My box has run 24 hours a day since May 1997 with this mobo and I haven't had any problems at all. This has been my week for really long posts, sorry everyone ;) George Toft wrote:
Oh, I'm not offended. Since you seem to know a bit about motherboards (and I don't), could you explain, briefly, what the big deal is about them and what these letters mean? I just bought a Shuttle Spacewalker HOT-569A (430TX chipset), and it hauls butt. Since I only paid $89 (or so) for it, I'm inclined to believe it's a cheap board.
Your explanation should help others in the future.
George
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On Aug 27, 1998, Mark Wagnon wrote:
I personally steer clear of internal modems. [...]
Um, why is that? I've seen other folks say the same, BTW, and I wonder why. Is it because no WinModem is external? I've had three internals over the years (a no-name 9600, a Logicode 14400, and a Zoom 28800) with nary a problem under DOS, Win3.1, WfWG, Win95 and now Linux. Howard Arons -- Powered by SuSE Linux 5.2 -- kernel 2.0.33 Communications by Mutt 0.93.2 - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
its actually because the "winmodem" left out some of the hardware that "regular" modems use to comminucate with, and decided to replace the "lost hardware" with software control instead... this is a very vague explanation, if you would like more detail feel free to mail me off list (or on list if anyone else is interested) On Fri, 28 Aug 1998, Howard Arons wrote:
On Aug 27, 1998, Mark Wagnon wrote:
I personally steer clear of internal modems. [...]
Um, why is that? I've seen other folks say the same, BTW, and I wonder why. Is it because no WinModem is external? I've had three internals over the years (a no-name 9600, a Logicode 14400, and a Zoom 28800) with nary a problem under DOS, Win3.1, WfWG, Win95 and now Linux.
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Hello all, It generally takes a little more time and skill to setup things that are complicated. Win mdoems really aren't hard at all, but can only be used in Windows. The modems don't have any Uart. Windows use a special driver to talk to the card, hence it can be located in the system anywhere there is room, such as I/O220 and INT 11. Good Luck. Howard Arons wrote:
On Aug 27, 1998, Mark Wagnon wrote:
I personally steer clear of internal modems. [...]
Um, why is that? I've seen other folks say the same, BTW, and I wonder why. Is it because no WinModem is external? I've had three internals over the years (a no-name 9600, a Logicode 14400, and a Zoom 28800) with nary a problem under DOS, Win3.1, WfWG, Win95 and now Linux.
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I didn't see this response earlier. Um, I like the pretty lights? :) I don't know. I've always bought external modems with the exception of my first which was a blistering 2400! I've read from several linux sources over the years to stay away from internal modems since it seemed that a lot were winmodems. Maybe back then there weren't any configuration tools to get them to work quickly. I don't know, but I guess I've held on to that notion. I've owned about 4 different external modems from 3 different manufacturers, and I've never had the slightest problem in getting connected. Also, my computer always seems crammed with stuff, and using an external modem allows me to free up one more slot. Other than that I don't know ;) Mark --- Howard Arons wrote:
Um, why is that? I've seen other folks say the same, BTW, and I wonder why. Is it because no WinModem is external? I've had three internals over the years (a no-name 9600, a Logicode 14400, and a Zoom 28800) with nary a problem under DOS, Win3.1, WfWG, Win95 and now Linux.
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