[opensuse] Major failure of 11.4 installation
I have nicely installed 11.4 on 3 desktops and 1 laptop with no obvious issues (except a couple of small ones). But it failed substantially on a 4th desktop. There was a whole range of problems, a frequent one being simply a dead freeze (no display, no response). They could occur while updating rpms, compiling code, or just sitting idle. An annoying part was that the computer is on a network switch with 2 other computers, both running 11.4. All 3 computers do nfs mounts from the others. When the computer failed, the other computers would hang, and I could not ping to any of them. I considered hardware issues. The hard disks check out just fine with SMART. I changed the power supply, with no benefit. I have a new CPU chip on order (it is faster anyway). With various checking and reinstallations, I have spent a few days on the problem. Today, I reinstalled 11.3. The computer is running fine, and all looks splendid. The long compilations went fine. I pushed the cpu hard (loads up to 2.1), with no problems. Something seems wrong with the 11.4 system. I use the base (KDE) install, but add a lot of rpms for my needs. The crashes seldom left any messages of failure. Any messages I saw did not seem helpful, nor were the failures ever reproducible. I have no idea where the problem is. I do not know what to specify for a bug report. My configuration is: Motherboard: Asus M2N-E CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ (to be replaced with a 5200+) Graphics: nVidia GeForce 7600 GS Monitor: Viewsonic G810 (1600x1200) Kernel: 2.6.37.6-0.5 Maybe I need another message for this, but the two small problems are: 1) When booting the 11.4 computers, the mount-nfs process starts _very_ early, and the booting has to wait for a timeout. This should be fixed (does not happen on 11.3). Once booted, all the disks are mounted. 2) One computer has a Viewsonic VA2431wm monitor, with a 1920x1080 display. When the installation gets to bringing up the login screen, the display becomes a pattern of rectangles. I have to reboot into the Failsafe mode, and then install the proprietary Nvidia drivers to make the display behave properly. Display of this size are now common, and the installation code should accommodate to them. Thank you, Joe Comfort -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Il 24/05/2011 1.37, Joseph Comfort ha scritto:
I have nicely installed 11.4 on 3 desktops and 1 laptop with no obvious issues (except a couple of small ones). But it failed substantially on a 4th desktop. There was a whole range of problems, a frequent one being simply a dead freeze (no display, no response). They could occur while updating rpms, compiling code, or just sitting idle.
An annoying part was that the computer is on a network switch with 2 other computers, both running 11.4. All 3 computers do nfs mounts from the others. When the computer failed, the other computers would hang, and I could not ping to any of them.
I considered hardware issues. The hard disks check out just fine with SMART. I changed the power supply, with no benefit. I have a new CPU chip on order (it is faster anyway). With various checking and reinstallations, I have spent a few days on the problem.
Today, I reinstalled 11.3. The computer is running fine, and all looks splendid. The long compilations went fine. I pushed the cpu hard (loads up to 2.1), with no problems.
Something seems wrong with the 11.4 system. I use the base (KDE) install, but add a lot of rpms for my needs. The crashes seldom left any messages of failure. Any messages I saw did not seem helpful, nor were the failures ever reproducible. I have no idea where the problem is. I do not know what to specify for a bug report.
My configuration is: Motherboard: Asus M2N-E CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ (to be replaced with a 5200+) Graphics: nVidia GeForce 7600 GS Monitor: Viewsonic G810 (1600x1200) Kernel: 2.6.37.6-0.5
Maybe I need another message for this, but the two small problems are:
1) When booting the 11.4 computers, the mount-nfs process starts _very_ early, and the booting has to wait for a timeout. This should be fixed (does not happen on 11.3). Once booted, all the disks are mounted.
2) One computer has a Viewsonic VA2431wm monitor, with a 1920x1080 display. When the installation gets to bringing up the login screen, the display becomes a pattern of rectangles. I have to reboot into the Failsafe mode, and then install the proprietary Nvidia drivers to make the display behave properly. Display of this size are now common, and the installation code should accommodate to them.
Thank you, Joe Comfort
Try to add the parameter "noacpi" into the kernel boot string, resolved for me some strange random lockups.... Cordially, Claudio Prono. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Claudio Prono OPST System Developer Gsm: +39-349-54.33.258 @PSS Srl Tel: +39-011-32.72.100 Via San Bernardino, 17 Fax: +39-011-32.46.497 10141 Torino - ITALY http://atpss.net/disclaimer -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PGP Key - http://keys.atpss.net/c_prono.asc -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, 24 May 2011, Claudio Prono wrote:
Try to add the parameter "noacpi" into the kernel boot string, resolved for me some strange random lockups....
Thank you. I'll try it. I did try the Failsafe boot with 11.4. It sets noapm and provided no benefit. Joe Comfort -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Joseph Comfort wrote:
1) When booting the 11.4 computers, the mount-nfs process starts _very_ early, and the booting has to wait for a timeout. This should be fixed (does not happen on 11.3). Once booted, all the disks are mounted.
You need the _netdev option on the mounts in fstab -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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1) When booting the 11.4 computers, the mount-nfs process starts _very_ early, and the booting has to wait for a timeout. This should be fixed (does not happen on 11.3). Once booted, all the disks are mounted.
Try this that came out in the forum: |> NFS mounts should have _netdev in the options field so |> that they will be mounted when the network comes up.
http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/network-internet/...
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On Tue, 24 May 2011, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Try this that came out in the forum:
|> NFS mounts should have _netdev in the options field so |> that they will be mounted when the network comes up.
http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/network-internet/...
Thank you. I'll try it. Is there a good reason why _netdev is not a built-in default, as in the behavior before 11.4? I.e., Are there good and very common situations where one does not want the parameter and prefers the boot process to wait for a timeout? The format of the line in fstab identifies that the file is network-based. Joe Comfort -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Joseph Comfort wrote:
On Tue, 24 May 2011, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Try this that came out in the forum:
|>NFS mounts should have _netdev in the options field so |>that they will be mounted when the network comes up.
http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/network-internet/...
Thank you. I'll try it.
Is there a good reason why _netdev is not a built-in default, as in the behavior before 11.4? I.e., Are there good and very common situations where one does not want the parameter and prefers the boot process to wait for a timeout? The format of the line in fstab identifies that the file is network-based.
Good question - I wonder if NFS filesystem are (somehow) not being correctly detected? -- Per Jessen, Zürich (24.7°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Carlos E. R.
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