Basil Chupin schrieb:

Mathias Homann wrote:

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Am Montag, 4. Dezember 2006 07:10 schrieb Randall R Schulz:

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The Novell site seems to strongly emphasize SLES and SLED, but eventually I found http://www.novell.com/products/suselinux/, which mentions only 10.1. But given the proximity of the 10.2 release, I don't understand why it (10.2) is not mentioned there.

back in the olden days, when 10.1 was new, it took the novell "webmaster" several weeks, if not months, to make the website become aware of that, too...

bye, MH

To which I have to reply: That is PATHETIC!

Someone at Novell must be retired because of this.

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On Mon December 4 2006 1:41 am, Basil Chupin skratched these words onto a coconut shell, hoping for an answer:

Mathias Homann wrote:

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Am Montag, 4. Dezember 2006 07:10 schrieb Randall R Schulz:

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The Novell site seems to strongly emphasize SLES and SLED, but eventually I found http://www.novell.com/products/suselinux/, which mentions only 10.1. But given the proximity of the 10.2 release, I don't understand why it (10.2) is not mentioned there.

back in the olden days, when 10.1 was new, it took the novell "webmaster" several weeks, if not months, to make the website become aware of that, too...

bye, MH

To which I have to reply: That is PATHETIC!

Someone at Novell must be retired because of this.

BC

If they are still letting Digital River handle stuff the whole board should go... <sigh> That is the one web co. around forever, that never ever got it's act together.. must be hiring kids in school, grade school ( k-6 IIRC) Tho the kids can't be past grade one or two, since they would get bored w/ the work and go home! ( bored because their (DR) stuff just never gets better.. ) <heavy sigh> ;) -- j like the gecko behind the painting w/ hidden wisdom to impart. In a world that needs more dancing, she's a hula girl at heart. Photographs show she is lovely. Her bare feet are a work of art. her fragrance speaks of frangipani and, she's still a hula girl at heart. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Am Dienstag, 5. Dezember 2006 07:48 schrieb Madhan P:

Hi,

http://en.opensuse.org/Roadmap/10.2#Thu.2C_Dec_7_openSUSE_10.2_publ ic_release

says the 10.2 release is on Dec 7th on the FTP Server.

So may be the links will be be updated once it's out - but yes a pre-order facility would have been nice ;o).

As i've mentioned before, when 10.1 was released, it took the novell webfools^h^h^h^h^hmaster several weeks to get that info up on the website... Given the "stability" of 10.1 right after release, that gave way to much speculation ;) bye, MH -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Tuesday 05 December 2006 01:48, Madhan P wrote:

Hi,

http://en.opensuse.org/Roadmap/10.2#Thu.2C_Dec_7_openSUSE_10.2_public _release

says the 10.2 release is on Dec 7th on the FTP Server.

So may be the links will be be updated once it's out - but yes a pre-order facility would have been nice ;o).

Cheers, Madhan.

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On 12/4/2006 at 11:40 AM, in message

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Randall R Schulz wrote:

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... And if so, where is it advertised / described / sold?

The Novell site seems to strongly emphasize SLES and SLED, but eventually I found http://www.novell.com/products/suselinux/, which

mentions only 10.1. But given the proximity of the 10.2 release, I don't understand why it (10.2) is not mentioned there. Amazon.com

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to know nothing of it, either.

Can we buy a commercial SuSE Linux 10.2? If so, where / when?

RRS ============

I have a feeling that OpenSUSE is going the way of Fedora Core. I'm doubtful that any more boxed sets will be released for sale. It's never been a money maker and it's gotten less & less with each release, so I suspect Novell will end it just as Red Hat did. bye -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Tuesday, 5. December 2006 16:46, Anders Norrbring wrote:

Rumour say that 10.2 will be available in box. But then, it's a rumour...

So the merchants listing it are... part of the conspiracy to dump it? :-) Bye, Steve -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Tuesday, 5. December 2006 17:10, Randall R Schulz wrote:

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So the merchants listing it are... part of the conspiracy to dump it? Please supply pointers to these listings!

I only know two German merchants who list it already: ixsoft and LinuxLand International. And http://shop.novell.com will have it for North America. Bye, Steve -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Michael Loeffler wrote:

For NA openSUSE 10.2 will be available only through shopNovell.com. For EMEA NA is North America? So here in the United States I will not find it at Fry's? Bummer.

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I don't know what the local jargon "EMEA" stands for

It's not local jargon.... EMEA = Europe, Middle East, Africa. You also have NA or NORAM for North America, LATAM for Latin America, and APAC for Asia Pacific. It's a fairly standard for companies that have offices worldwide to refer to these geographical regions in this way.

Prior to 10.10 I could go to 'local' (Australian) Linux shops and find the option to *pre-order* SuSE at least 1 month in advance of release - which I always did. Now, there is no damn sign of the latest Suse- and the release is next week.

Here in the NL, my usual supplier has it up on the website already http://www.comcol.nl/detail/sicxlc01.htm#60717 And I can pre-order it.... I checked around, and several other computer shops I deal with will be carrying the new boxes. They are hoping they'll be in stock next week some time. So, at least in some areas the pre-order thing is working. C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

So that's what it means. Thanks for that. But I still stand by my remark that it is local jargon. I just hope that the world doesn't end up going into mobile phone text mode :-) .

I've seen/used this jargon for years because I have worked in multinationals since 1994... all of which divided the company up into the geographical regions... so anyone who was working in Europe was in the EMEA division etc. Granted.. it is more popularly used in Europe over anywhere else.

Thank goodness for that! And I am envious that you have the luxury of pre-ordering it in Holland. But 61 Euros? That's expensive, isn't it?

61 Euros is about the same price it's been for the last couple releases. It is expensive, but then again... everything here is overpriced... so much so it's often more economical to drive to Belgium or Germany to go shopping :-( I used to do that all the time when I lived near the Belgian border. Never bought SUSE in Belgium though... get it from Comcol most of the time. They deliver the day they get the boxes in stock. Great company... usually on release day, there is someone banging on my door at about 18:00 with a nice present for me :-) C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

At 02:20 PM 6/12/2006, Basil Chupin wrote:

Michael Loeffler wrote:

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On Tuesday 05 December 2006 16:46, Anders Norrbring wrote:

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Can we buy a commercial SuSE Linux 10.2? If so, where / when? openSUSE 10.2 (pyhsical boxes) are currently in production and should be dlivererd to distributors next week. That means first boxes could/should be on the shelf Dec 14/15. For NA openSUSE 10.2 will be available only through shopNovell.com. For EMEA box business remains as is (in retail shops, in onlineshops etc.) and in different countries.

I don't know what the local jargon "EMEA" stands for, and I don't know what definition is applied to "business remains as is [for retail shops..etc]" but I can telly you that it is *NOT* the same since version 10.0.

Prior to 10.10 I could go to 'local' (Australian) Linux shops and find the option to *pre-order* SuSE at least 1 month in advance of release - which I always did. Now, there is no damn sign of the latest Suse- and the release is next week.

Novell marketing is stuffing up big time and whoever is in charge should have his/her bum severely kicked for not looking after the interests of the company.

Cheers.

tried lsl (linux system labs) my aussie distributor. they don't know anything about it :-{{ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Anders Norrbring wrote:

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Can we buy a commercial SuSE Linux 10.2? If so, where / when?

RRS

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I have a feeling that OpenSUSE is going the way of Fedora Core. I'm doubtful that any more boxed sets will be released for sale. It's never been a money maker and it's gotten less & less with each release, so I suspect Novell will end it just as Red Hat did.

Rumour say that 10.2 will be available in box. But then, it's a rumour...

Not a rumour. Anders Jaeger says this in his message: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-announce/2006-12/msg00000.html Cheers. -- In a period of great joy and pleasure you are comforted by the thought that tragedy is just around the corner. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Wednesday 06 December 2006 22:40, Kalos Bonasia wrote:

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I prefer the commercial version, when Novell will publish it?

The word from the horse's mouth (one of the horses' mouths, anyway) is that it's going into production now and should reach retailers "shelves" (some of those shelves being virtual, presumably) by the mid-December time frame. From today's posting to openSUSE-Announce: -==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==- openSUSE 10.2 will be offered as boxed product in Europe through retail as usual. In North America the  box will be available through http://www.shopnovell.com. Due to production lead time first boxes will show up on shelves and onlineshops mid of December. -==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==-

-- Calogero

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