[opensuse] SuSE10.2-RC1, NetworkManager
Hi list On my brand new SuSE10.2 (internet install, all like a breeze), my wireless (ipw2100 on IBM ThinkPad R50) gets detected and I'm able to set it up correctly. I can't connect to my AP, however. I was under the impression that a thing called networkmanager would automagically select between cabled and wireless if one of them is available? It isn't. In the panel, I've got this small icon down right, it's small "Knetworkmanager" aplet. Only I can't select anything sensibly from it? Now what? What am I missing here? NEGATIVE RANT: Now, I respect (a lot in fact) the enormous effort that the SuSE programmers are putting into a very fine distry. One that's been my absolute choice for many, many years. I lieu of the excellent overall quality, I am sorry, but I don't understand why a (seemingly, but that may not be the case) relatively simple thing like an automatic selection of network source is not ready. Or, is not well documented... I mean, I'm heavily plugging SuSE to ordinary (read Windows...) users, and I fail to understand this...it's so important. POSITIVE RANT: Now, my experience with the SuSE10.2 install, the design, the new KDE userinterface, the overall feeling is excellent. It's a fantastic distro. The graphic design is a killer. Pleasant to the Eye and all. What a fab job! -- ------------------------------ Med venlig hilsen/Best regards Verner Kjærsgaard ------------------------------ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hi Verner, On Mon, 2006-12-04 at 08:53 +0100, Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:
On my brand new SuSE10.2 (internet install, all like a breeze), my wireless (ipw2100 on IBM ThinkPad R50) gets detected and I'm able to set it up correctly. I can't connect to my AP, however.
I was under the impression that a thing called networkmanager would automagically select between cabled and wireless if one of them is available?
It isn't.
Please read http://en.opensuse.org/Projects/KNetworkManager .
In the panel, I've got this small icon down right, it's small "Knetworkmanager" aplet. Only I can't select anything sensibly from it?
Now what? What am I missing here?
NEGATIVE RANT: Now, I respect (a lot in fact) the enormous effort that the SuSE programmers are putting into a very fine distry. One that's been my absolute choice for many, many years. I lieu of the excellent overall quality, I am sorry, but I don't understand why a (seemingly, but that may not be the case) relatively simple thing like an automatic selection of network source is not ready. Or, is not well documented... I mean, I'm heavily plugging SuSE to ordinary (read Windows...) users, and I fail to understand this...it's so important.
POSITIVE RANT: Now, my experience with the SuSE10.2 install, the design, the new KDE userinterface, the overall feeling is excellent. It's a fantastic distro. The graphic design is a killer. Pleasant to the Eye and all. What a fab job!
I've skipped both rants. Please get back if you still have problems after reading the above link. Timo -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Mandag den 4. december 2006 11:19 skrev Timo Hoenig:
Hi Verner,
On Mon, 2006-12-04 at 08:53 +0100, Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:
On my brand new SuSE10.2 (internet install, all like a breeze), my wireless (ipw2100 on IBM ThinkPad R50) gets detected and I'm able to set it up correctly. I can't connect to my AP, however.
I was under the impression that a thing called networkmanager would automagically select between cabled and wireless if one of them is available?
It isn't.
Please read http://en.opensuse.org/Projects/KNetworkManager .
In the panel, I've got this small icon down right, it's small "Knetworkmanager" aplet. Only I can't select anything sensibly from it?
Now what? What am I missing here?
...
Please get back if you still have problems after reading the above link.
Timo
Hi list and Timo, - thank you for your reply. I read the info which was pointed to. Beautiful screenshots...I never saw anything remotely like that on any of my boxes. I've got 3 laptops, 2 IBM ThinkPad R50s and one DELL Precision M90 running SuSE10 and SuSE10.2 - KNetworkManager clearly does not look like that on any of them. As I try to re-install the wireless interface, I suddenly get a dialogbox that says: "(translated...) This unit requires firmware in order to function properly. I may be installed from the openSUSE FACTORY 10.2 add-on CD. In order to install the firmware, add the add-on CD to your YaST installtionsources and return to this dialog" In other words, I'll get back :-) -- ------------------------------ Med venlig hilsen/Best regards Verner Kjærsgaard -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Mandag den 4. december 2006 20:40 skrev Verner Kjærsgaard:
Mandag den 4. december 2006 11:19 skrev Timo Hoenig:
Hi Verner,
On Mon, 2006-12-04 at 08:53 +0100, Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:
On my brand new SuSE10.2 (internet install, all like a breeze), my wireless (ipw2100 on IBM ThinkPad R50) gets detected and I'm able to set it up correctly. I can't connect to my AP, however.
I was under the impression that a thing called networkmanager would automagically select between cabled and wireless if one of them is available?
It isn't.
Please read http://en.opensuse.org/Projects/KNetworkManager .
In the panel, I've got this small icon down right, it's small "Knetworkmanager" aplet. Only I can't select anything sensibly from it?
Now what? What am I missing here?
...
Please get back if you still have problems after reading the above link.
Timo
Hi list and Timo,
- thank you for your reply. I read the info which was pointed to. Beautiful screenshots...I never saw anything remotely like that on any of my boxes. I've got 3 laptops, 2 IBM ThinkPad R50s and one DELL Precision M90 running SuSE10 and SuSE10.2
- KNetworkManager clearly does not look like that on any of them.
As I try to re-install the wireless interface, I suddenly get a dialogbox that says:
"(translated...) This unit requires firmware in order to function properly. I may be installed from the openSUSE FACTORY 10.2 add-on CD. In order to install the firmware, add the add-on CD to your YaST installtionsources and return to this dialog"
In other words, I'll get back :-)
I'm back, succesfully! Thanks to Timo for guiding me,- it's working just fine now. The reason...I was led to believe all was good, because the ipw2100 module was installed and loaded. Only when I deleted the wireless interface and tried to reinstall it, was I notified of the missing firmware. Once downloaded, which went just fine, all is really ok. And I'm now getting KNetworkManager dialogboxes just like the screenshots. One of these days, I'll take a deep breath and install it for real on one of the laptops. It's just too much eye candy not to :-) -- ------------------------------ Med venlig hilsen/Best regards Verner Kjærsgaard ------------------------------ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hi Verner, On Mon, 2006-12-04 at 21:01 +0100, Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:
I'm back, succesfully!
Perfect.
Thanks to Timo for guiding me,- it's working just fine now.
Well, I did not really guide you, just pointed to the documentation link. Your concern that it is a bad idea not to integrate this as part of the distribution is still valid and I will take care to get this fixed for OS10.3
The reason...I was led to believe all was good, because the ipw2100 module was installed and loaded. Only when I deleted the wireless interface and tried to reinstall it, was I notified of the missing firmware. Once downloaded, which went just fine, all is really ok.
And I'm now getting KNetworkManager dialogboxes just like the screenshots.
One of these days, I'll take a deep breath and install it for real on one of the laptops.
It's just too much eye candy not to :-)
You'll get used to it. But you won't stop loving it :-) Timo -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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