On 9/30/05, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* Ben Rosenberg [09-30-05 18:29]:

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http://www.whack.org/~ben/blackened.jpg

Have any of you experienced this with GTK applications? It happens with all but Firefox. I have absolutely no clue how to fix this. None of my KDE applications do this. I've gone so far as to backup my needed files and remove my whole home directory to see if something was corrupt. I've made sure everything is good in Sax2 as well.

It's only happened since the update before last of the Gnome progs and libs. It's REALLY annoying.

Note: If I login as root.. everything is fine.

I don't understand why root is different, but I have seen recent discussion of blacked out menu's attributed to glib and people having to revert to prior versions. I believe I saw this on suse-linux-e but seem to fail to find it googling. It was a recent conversation.

I found the conversation.. I've never deleted anything from the gmail account. woohoo! It paid off. I have to downgrade to the pkg on the 9.3 disks. I suppose that will make it impossible to upgrade ANY gnome program with apt. *sigh* Wonderful. Thanks all who replied. -Ben -- Atheism is a non-prophet organization.

On 9/30/05, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* Ben Rosenberg [09-30-05 21:14]:

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I found the conversation.. I've never deleted anything from the gmail account. woohoo! It paid off. I have to downgrade to the pkg on the 9.3 disks. I suppose that will make it impossible to upgrade ANY gnome program with apt. *sigh* Wonderful.

But doesn't explain why root is not affected. This fact makes the solution possibly wrong.

Does not concern apt. Edit /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/apt.conf add: Hold { "glib" };

and apt will no upgrade glib or packages depending on the present glib level.

Then you can remove the line when the affected apps have been corrected or glib has been corrected.

STILL wondering why root didn't suffer....... Same file system. Could it possibly be a configuration that should change with the new glib?

Yeah. I know I can hold glib via the conf file.. but that's what I'm talking about.. nothing that depends on glib will be upgraded which sucks. I'm not sure why root isn't effected. I also forgot to mention that if I make another user and do an "ssh -X <newuser> and start say.. gqview.. it shows up fine but if I login as that new user.. the menus are black. It's REALLY screwy. I'll just downgrade and see if that fixes the issue. Maybe the pkg will be fixed soon... that is if someone is paying attention. I don't know if the powers that be will figure it out based on the fact that if this is happening to several of us.. it means they didn't test this at all. It's quite apparent. -Ben -- Atheism is a non-prophet organization.

This puzzle is something James Ogley could answer. Where are you James?

I'm right here, been reading through this, and the problem is that I never had this problem when I was using 9.3, or with any of the 10.0 betas/RC. Wonder if it might have something to do with the GTK+ theme[1] not working properly with the new version of GLib, and root's using one that does - worth investigating... [1] Or engine, might need a rebuild of that package... -- James Ogley james@usr-local-bin.org Packages for SUSE: http://usr-local-bin.org/rpms Make Poverty History: http://makepovertyhistory.org

On 9/30/05, James Ogley wrote:

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This puzzle is something James Ogley could answer. Where are you James?

I'm right here, been reading through this, and the problem is that I never had this problem when I was using 9.3, or with any of the 10.0 betas/RC.

Wonder if it might have something to do with the GTK+ theme[1] not working properly with the new version of GLib, and root's using one that does - worth investigating...

[1] Or engine, might need a rebuild of that package...

I thought about that. But since I can sux - <user> and the menus look fine but when I actually login as said user and startx.. it's black menu time. :) I dunno what is going to fix the issue. I can't test anything until Monday when I get back into the office.. which is where the laptop is... my SUSE boxes at home don't have X installed. :/ -ben -- Atheism is a non-prophet organization.