wonders of open source [showimage ]
Sometimes wonderful things happen and I want to share this with you. User gumb hinted me on this list to showimage as the successor of the abandoned kuickshow, that I urgently need for my daily work. But showimage lacked a feature I need [resizing window without zooming image]. gump provided me the email address of the developper, Martin Koller. Last Sunday I wrote an email to Martin describing my problem. Tuesday he sent me an executable with a new version and asked me to test it! Already this version did what I needed. I sent my report and added some suggestions of features he'd maybe liked to add for future releases. The same evening I received a new version that included those additional features (settings to turn off hover-menu, change background color; change brightness/contrast/gamma). Now I have a perfect showimage that is even better than kuickshow was (it also can display RAW files, Filename is showed better [at the beginning of the title, so it remains readable in small windows], mouse wheel can be used for zooming, all windows can be closed with one click/shortcut, brightness/contrast/gamma-changes can be undone...) Honestly I didn't expect such a fast and perfect solution for my problem and I know that even in open-source one cannot expect this. But it shows how helpful this mailing list often is, and that in the linux world things can happen that are absolutely unthinkable in Win/Mac surroundings. So sorry for taking your time for my sentimental post, but I just had to share my gratefulness! -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Málaga Twitter: @Marsfotografo (often explicit nudes) https://www.patreon.com/danielbauer https://www.daniel-bauer.com (nudes)
On 2023-07-27 13:37, Daniel Bauer wrote:
Sometimes wonderful things happen and I want to share this with you.
User gumb hinted me on this list to showimage as the successor of the abandoned kuickshow, that I urgently need for my daily work. But showimage lacked a feature I need [resizing window without zooming image]. gump provided me the email address of the developper, Martin Koller.
Last Sunday I wrote an email to Martin describing my problem.
Tuesday he sent me an executable with a new version and asked me to test it!
Already this version did what I needed. I sent my report and added some suggestions of features he'd maybe liked to add for future releases.
The same evening I received a new version that included those additional features (settings to turn off hover-menu, change background color; change brightness/contrast/gamma).
Now I have a perfect showimage that is even better than kuickshow was (it also can display RAW files, Filename is showed better [at the beginning of the title, so it remains readable in small windows], mouse wheel can be used for zooming, all windows can be closed with one click/shortcut, brightness/contrast/gamma-changes can be undone...)
Honestly I didn't expect such a fast and perfect solution for my problem and I know that even in open-source one cannot expect this. But it shows how helpful this mailing list often is, and that in the linux world things can happen that are absolutely unthinkable in Win/Mac surroundings.
So sorry for taking your time for my sentimental post, but I just had to share my gratefulness!
That's amazing! :-)) Now we just need to get this on the distro repositories. I think there is a photography or graphics repo, maybe we can suggest it to them? (how to find them?) -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.4 x86_64 at Telcontar)
Thu, 27 Jul 2023 13:37:45 +0200 Daniel Bauer <linux@daniel-bauer.com> :
Sometimes wonderful things happen and I want to share this with you.
User gumb hinted me on this list to showimage as the successor of the abandoned kuickshow, that I urgently need for my daily work. But showimage lacked a feature I need [resizing window without zooming image]. gump provided me the email address of the developper, Martin Koller.
Last Sunday I wrote an email to Martin describing my problem.
Tuesday he sent me an executable with a new version and asked me to test it!
Already this version did what I needed. I sent my report and added some suggestions of features he'd maybe liked to add for future releases.
The same evening I received a new version that included those additional features (settings to turn off hover-menu, change background color; change brightness/contrast/gamma).
Now I have a perfect showimage that is even better than kuickshow was (it also can display RAW files, Filename is showed better [at the beginning of the title, so it remains readable in small windows], mouse wheel can be used for zooming, all windows can be closed with one click/shortcut, brightness/contrast/gamma-changes can be undone...)
Honestly I didn't expect such a fast and perfect solution for my problem and I know that even in open-source one cannot expect this. But it shows how helpful this mailing list often is, and that in the linux world things can happen that are absolutely unthinkable in Win/Mac surroundings.
Those are not even in the running anymore in literate societies
So sorry for taking your time for my sentimental post, but I just had to share my gratefulness!
Nice to hear there are still devs like that :-) I've been missing the very early ancestors of KDE's DirectAccess widget (or whatever it was called when I last gave up on it). Brought it up many a time only to get replies like I get in the hardware store: "there no demand for it". To that I would reply "how do you know until you put it up on the shelf"? I hope this dev gets the satisfaction seeing the number of downloads increase over time!
-- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Málaga Twitter: @Marsfotografo (often explicit nudes) https://www.patreon.com/danielbauer https://www.daniel-bauer.com (nudes)
On 27/07/2023 13:37, Daniel Bauer wrote:
Sometimes wonderful things happen and I want to share this with you.
User gumb hinted me on this list to showimage as the successor of the abandoned kuickshow, that I urgently need for my daily work. But showimage lacked a feature I need [resizing window without zooming image]. gump provided me the email address of the developper, Martin Koller.
Last Sunday I wrote an email to Martin describing my problem.
Tuesday he sent me an executable with a new version and asked me to test it!
Already this version did what I needed. I sent my report and added some suggestions of features he'd maybe liked to add for future releases.
The same evening I received a new version that included those additional features (settings to turn off hover-menu, change background color; change brightness/contrast/gamma).
Now I have a perfect showimage that is even better than kuickshow was (it also can display RAW files, Filename is showed better [at the beginning of the title, so it remains readable in small windows], mouse wheel can be used for zooming, all windows can be closed with one click/shortcut, brightness/contrast/gamma-changes can be undone...)
Honestly I didn't expect such a fast and perfect solution for my problem and I know that even in open-source one cannot expect this. But it shows how helpful this mailing list often is, and that in the linux world things can happen that are absolutely unthinkable in Win/Mac surroundings.
So sorry for taking your time for my sentimental post, but I just had to share my gratefulness!
Appreciate you reporting back on this. Having just come home in a bad mood after an argument with a git in a pizza parlour-cum-this-is-where-you-now-have-to-collect-your-parcels parlour, that made me feel better. To help get the new version of the app out there the developer could start by providing an appimage on that kde-apps / openDesktop site, rather than just a tarball, and since he already uses the Open Build Service maybe he could provide packages for various other distros without too much difficulty. That would be a start, as it seems to be available practically nowhere else. ShowImage seems to offer a different spin on image viewers that many users would still appreciate so it could be worthy of getting integrated into KDE Gear, although with everything currently transitioning it would probably have to be updated for Qt6/Plasma 6. I'm a Gwenview guy so I've already uninstalled ShowImage, but after having it as my default viewer for a few days I can see how it could have its uses in a certain workflow. gumb
On 7/27/23 06:37, Daniel Bauer wrote:
Sometimes wonderful things happen and I want to share this with you.
User gumb hinted me on this list to showimage as the successor of the abandoned kuickshow, that I urgently need for my daily work. But showimage lacked a feature I need [resizing window without zooming image]. gump provided me the email address of the developper, Martin Koller.
Last Sunday I wrote an email to Martin describing my problem.
Tuesday he sent me an executable with a new version and asked me to test it!
Already this version did what I needed. I sent my report and added some suggestions of features he'd maybe liked to add for future releases.
The same evening I received a new version that included those additional features (settings to turn off hover-menu, change background color; change brightness/contrast/gamma).
Now I have a perfect showimage that is even better than kuickshow was (it also can display RAW files, Filename is showed better [at the beginning of the title, so it remains readable in small windows], mouse wheel can be used for zooming, all windows can be closed with one click/shortcut, brightness/contrast/gamma-changes can be undone...)
It is truly a beautiful thing when it works as intended. Not only did you get your needs addressed, but you have made showimage better for everyone with the help of a very dedicated developer. Do you do climate as well? It's hot as hell in Texas and we need HELP! -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
Am 28.07.23 um 11:12 schrieb David C. Rankin: ...
Do you do climate as well? It's hot as hell in Texas and we need HELP!
I am sorry, but my only talent is making it even more hot ;-) (Despite of the horror stories in the press, here in Málaga in the south of Spain we have a very nice summer - right now, 11:30h am, it's 27°C, the month average is approx. 30-31°C in the afternoon, the hottest day was 38° some days ago) -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Málaga Twitter: @Marsfotografo (often explicit nudes) https://www.patreon.com/danielbauer https://www.daniel-bauer.com (nudes)
On 2023-07-28 11:34, Daniel Bauer wrote:
Am 28.07.23 um 11:12 schrieb David C. Rankin: ...
Do you do climate as well? It's hot as hell in Texas and we need HELP!
I am sorry, but my only talent is making it even more hot ;-)
(Despite of the horror stories in the press, here in Málaga in the south of Spain we have a very nice summer - right now, 11:30h am, it's 27°C, the month average is approx. 30-31°C in the afternoon, the hottest day was 38° some days ago)
That's because the city is on the seaside. Same temps as Cartagena. 50 Km inland and they get to 45°C some days. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.4 x86_64 at Telcontar)
Hello, In the Message; Subject : Re: wonders of open source [showimage ] Message-ID : <1ee131b8-77e0-8550-2edb-83bcad84eb74@daniel-bauer.com> Date & Time: Fri, 28 Jul 2023 11:34:20 +0200 [DB] == Daniel Bauer <linux@daniel-bauer.com> has written: DB> Am 28.07.23 um 11:12 schrieb David C. Rankin: [...] DCR> > Do you do climate as well? It's hot as hell in Texas and we need HELP! Please tell it to the Republicans who say there is no global warming phenomenon! It's extremely hot in Japan, too! [...] DB> (Despite of the horror stories in the press, here in Málaga in the south of DB> Spain we have a very nice summer - right now, 11:30h am, it's 27°C, the month DB> average is approx. 30-31°C in the afternoon, the hottest day was DB> 38° some days ago) Costa del Sol seemed very southern European to us, but so comfortable!? According to newspapers, air conditioners are explosively sold in southern Europe..... Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Bill! You married with Computer. Not with Me!" "No..., with money."
On 7/28/23 05:13, Masaru Nomiya wrote:
DCR> > Do you do climate as well? It's hot as hell in Texas and we need HELP!
Please tell it to the Republicans who say there is no global warming phenomenon!
It's extremely hot in Japan, too!
Amen, You are speaking to the choir my friend. At least most of those ID10T types wear red ball caps now making the ... them easy to spot... Sad part about it is, even if all CO2 emissions stopped tomorrow, we wouldn't see a reduction in global temps for centuries. All we can do is hope to prevent it from getting worse. Sorry legacy to leave our children. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
Hello, In the Message; Subject : Re: wonders of open source [showimage ] Message-ID : <ec0ebdb7-c978-63b4-c28e-8ff482c25b29@suddenlinkmail.com> Date & Time: Fri, 28 Jul 2023 05:34:23 -0500 [DCR] == "David C. Rankin" <drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com> has written: DCR> On 7/28/23 05:13, Masaru Nomiya wrote: MN>> It's extremely hot in Japan, too! DCR> Amen, https://youtu.be/FOgPYJrSdjA Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Maddox hopes that empowering users to pick their own algorithms will get them to think more about what’s involved in making them. " -- Bluesky's Custom Algorithms Could Be the Future of Social Media --
On 2023-07-30 10:23, Masaru Nomiya wrote:
Hello,
In the Message;
Subject : Re: wonders of open source [showimage ] Message-ID : <ec0ebdb7-c978-63b4-c28e-8ff482c25b29@suddenlinkmail.com> Date & Time: Fri, 28 Jul 2023 05:34:23 -0500
[DCR] == "David C. Rankin" <drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com> has written:
DCR> On 7/28/23 05:13, Masaru Nomiya wrote:
MN>> It's extremely hot in Japan, too!
DCR> Amen,
Youtube, after the above, suggested this version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3OcPLf7Kyo 対訳「マタイ受難曲」 全曲 which I think has the entire lyrics in superimposed subtitles in Japanese, plus the original German. If you like the violin, I love this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7C_U7eUbVd8 Itzhak Perlman: Brahms - Violin Concerto in D major, Op. 77 this one is happier: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rT8KC10ErA Fiddler on the Roof - Itzhak Perlman -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.4 x86_64 at Telcontar)
Hello, Hello, In the Message; Subject : Re: wonders of open source [showimage ] [OT musical digression] Message-ID : <0dd1d477-586e-2f57-d356-66df4c00d96a@telefonica.net> Date & Time: Sun, 30 Jul 2023 11:34:48 +0200 [CER] == "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas@telefonica.net> has written: [...] MN>>> It's extremely hot in Japan, too! DCR>>> Amen, MN>> https://youtu.be/FOgPYJrSdjA CER> Youtube, after the above, suggested this version: CER> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3OcPLf7Kyo CER> 対訳「マタイ受難曲」 全曲 CER> which I think has the entire lyrics in superimposed subtitles in CER> Japanese, plus the original German. There's a reason why I put up that poorly recorded Mengelberg version. I don't know if you noticed, but that recording includes the audience's sobbing, and the message to David is that he should listen to it as if it were me who was sobbing. When I was younger, I liked Richter's playing, which seemed to push the audience away, but now I prefer S. Kuijken's playing. https://youtu.be/jsFHtiZo9Jo CER> If you like the violin, I love this one: CER> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7C_U7eUbVd8 CER> Itzhak Perlman: Brahms - Violin Concerto in D major, Op. 77 I do think Perlman sounds beautiful, though, I think Gidon Kremer is one of the best recent performers. But I often listen to Henryk Szeryng and Arthur Grumiaux. CER> this one is happier: CER> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rT8KC10ErA CER> Fiddler on the Roof - Itzhak Perlman After all, you are young, aren't you? I listen to mostly 60's~70's performances, and I think the recent performances are well, but not my favorite. It's a pity that Ingrid Haebler, my favorite pianist, passed away. Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Bill! You married with Computer. Not with Me!" "No..., with money."
* Masaru Nomiya <nomiya@lake.dti.ne.jp> [07-30-23 06:27]:
Hello,
Hello,
In the Message;
Subject : Re: wonders of open source [showimage ] [OT musical digression] Message-ID : <0dd1d477-586e-2f57-d356-66df4c00d96a@telefonica.net> Date & Time: Sun, 30 Jul 2023 11:34:48 +0200
[CER] == "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas@telefonica.net> has written:
[...] MN>>> It's extremely hot in Japan, too!
DCR>>> Amen,
MN>> https://youtu.be/FOgPYJrSdjA
CER> Youtube, after the above, suggested this version:
CER> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3OcPLf7Kyo CER> 対訳「マタイ受難曲」 全曲
CER> which I think has the entire lyrics in superimposed subtitles in CER> Japanese, plus the original German.
There's a reason why I put up that poorly recorded Mengelberg version.
I don't know if you noticed, but that recording includes the audience's sobbing, and the message to David is that he should listen to it as if it were me who was sobbing.
When I was younger, I liked Richter's playing, which seemed to push the audience away, but now I prefer S. Kuijken's playing.
CER> If you like the violin, I love this one:
CER> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7C_U7eUbVd8 CER> Itzhak Perlman: Brahms - Violin Concerto in D major, Op. 77
I do think Perlman sounds beautiful, though, I think Gidon Kremer is one of the best recent performers.
But I often listen to Henryk Szeryng and Arthur Grumiaux.
CER> this one is happier:
CER> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rT8KC10ErA CER> Fiddler on the Roof - Itzhak Perlman
After all, you are young, aren't you?
I listen to mostly 60's~70's performances, and I think the recent performances are well, but not my favorite.
It's a pity that Ingrid Haebler, my favorite pianist, passed away.
Guys, there *is* an off-topic list. why pollute this one? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc
On 7/30/23 04:34, Carlos E. R. wrote:
If you like the violin, I love this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7C_U7eUbVd8 Itzhak Perlman: Brahms - Violin Concerto in D major, Op. 77
this one is happier:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rT8KC10ErA Fiddler on the Roof - Itzhak Perlman
Well played, I've listed to classical for 30 years. Perfect background music at work. Only shortcoming is I'm not very good at identifying artist and name of composition -- I know which ones I especially like -- I just can't tell you what they are.... Now on rock from the 60's - 80's I can generally nail every artist/song on the first 3 notes... Just proves it is harder to teach and old dog new tricks... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
Am 28.07.23 um 12:13 schrieb Masaru Nomiya:
[DB] == Daniel Bauer <linux@daniel-bauer.com> has written:
[...] DB> (Despite of the horror stories in the press, here in Málaga in the south of DB> Spain we have a very nice summer - right now, 11:30h am, it's 27°C, the month DB> average is approx. 30-31°C in the afternoon, the hottest day was DB> 38° some days ago)
Costa del Sol seemed very southern European to us, but so comfortable!?
Due to the formation of the mountains and valleys we have a lot of very different micro-climates here. There are places where it gets incredibly hot every year, even without "el niño". Málaga is on the lucky side, we have a very pleasant climate most of the time.
According to newspapers, air conditioners are explosively sold in southern Europe.....
Well, I'm sure they sell more in summer :-) Although I think there is a climate change, maybe even man made, what the newspaper say is mostly bs. According to https://de.weatherspark.com/h/y/35192/2023/Historisches-Wetter-w%C3%A4hrend-... this July is almost, but not as hot as in 2021... -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Málaga Twitter: @Marsfotografo (often explicit nudes) https://www.patreon.com/danielbauer https://www.daniel-bauer.com (nudes)
On 7/28/23 04:46, Daniel Bauer wrote:
Am 28.07.23 um 12:13 schrieb Masaru Nomiya:
[DB] == Daniel Bauer <linux@daniel-bauer.com> has written:
[...] DB> (Despite of the horror stories in the press, here in Málaga in the south of DB> Spain we have a very nice summer - right now, 11:30h am, it's 27°C, the month DB> average is approx. 30-31°C in the afternoon, the hottest day was DB> 38° some days ago)
Costa del Sol seemed very southern European to us, but so comfortable!?
Due to the formation of the mountains and valleys we have a lot of very different micro-climates here. There are places where it gets incredibly hot every year, even without "el niño". Málaga is on the lucky side, we have a very pleasant climate most of the time.
(on-topic content below) Since we're wandering into off-topic territory I might as well add that San Diego has been rather cool too. Indeed, there was a 4-month period starting in mid February this year where we didn't have a fully sunny day. Wolfgang Manor's solar array has been under-producing! https://weatherspark.com/h/y/1816/2023/Historical-Weather-during-2023-in-San... Our micro-climate is driven by being close to the coast where the California Current carries cold water down from the Bearing Sea. We have full-blown deserts not too far east of us.
According to newspapers, air conditioners are explosively sold in southern Europe.....
Well, I'm sure they sell more in summer :-)
Although I think there is a climate change, maybe even man made, what the newspaper say is mostly bs.
According to https://de.weatherspark.com/h/y/35192/2023/Historisches-Wetter-w%C3%A4hrend-...
this July is almost, but not as hot as in 2021...
I totally agree with you on the climate change issue, but this really isn't the right venue to hash it out, is it? Things have been rather lonely over at offtopic@lists.opensuse.org since you and Per stopped posting there. IIRC David used to post there too. If you guys came back we could really sink our teeth into nice offtopic topics like the political science behind man-made global warming. In an attempt to bring this back on topic, I agree that your experience with a good open-source developer is heartening and that it could never have happened in the closed-source world. Both Microsoft and Apple have been thorns in my side since at least the early 1980's and I'll gladly take any opportunity to bash them. I've had good experiences interacting with open-source developers too. One time I was having issues with the smartcard middleware library coolkey and manged to get advice from the original author who works for Red Hat. He said to dump coolkey and start using opensc, which he also wrote. Another time I was having a dump issue with Reiserfs and had a short dialog with Hans Reiser himself. This was before he murdered his wife, and he was a bit snide with me too. But still, productive interactions. Regards, Lew
Fri, 28 Jul 2023 10:11:13 -0700 Lew Wolfgang <wolfgang@sweet-haven.com> :
Since we're wandering into off-topic territory I might as well add that San Diego has been rather cool too. Indeed, there was a 4-month period starting in mid February this year where we didn't have a fully sunny day. Wolfgang Manor's solar array has been under-producing!
https://weatherspark.com/h/y/1816/2023/Historical-Weather-during-2023-in-San...
Our micro-climate is driven by being close to the coast where the California Current carries cold water down from the Bearing Sea. We have full-blown deserts not too far east of us.
The only thing I cannot resist is temptation so off topic here goes! I take it you live in the micro-climate you describe; I live in another similar one where the Gulf stream cools our eastern Quebec (and maritime provinces) climate. These cyclical sawtooth global warming episodes that have nothing to do with Greta's periods WILL become wider, wilder, and more frequent as we approach the tipping-point over into the next very long downslope to an ice-age. That 'point' may still be thousands of years ahead. What I want to ask you is how YOUR corner of the world is likely to fare with what many predict i.e. the slowing of ocean currents that depend on temperature DIFFERENCES to drive them. YOUR area is already warm, it don't look good with less cooling. A similar situation is predicted for estern Europe where french grape is likely to freeze on the vine not to mention them not just climatologically marginal isles to the north. WE here are likely to benefit as our climate might become warmer, maybe like NY used to be. Time will tell. Banking on less hard freezing ahead I planted 250 alaskan cedars a couple of years ago, if half survive into this new epoch I will be dead BUT famous :-)))
On 7/28/23 10:44, bent fender wrote:
Fri, 28 Jul 2023 10:11:13 -0700 Lew Wolfgang <wolfgang@sweet-haven.com> :
Since we're wandering into off-topic territory I might as well add that San Diego has been rather cool too. Indeed, there was a 4-month period starting in mid February this year where we didn't have a fully sunny day. Wolfgang Manor's solar array has been under-producing!
https://weatherspark.com/h/y/1816/2023/Historical-Weather-during-2023-in-San...
Our micro-climate is driven by being close to the coast where the California Current carries cold water down from the Bearing Sea. We have full-blown deserts not too far east of us. The only thing I cannot resist is temptation so off topic here goes!
I take it you live in the micro-climate you describe; I live in another similar one where the Gulf stream cools our eastern Quebec (and maritime provinces) climate. These cyclical sawtooth global warming episodes that have nothing to do with Greta's periods WILL become wider, wilder, and more frequent as we approach the tipping-point over into the next very long downslope to an ice-age. That 'point' may still be thousands of years ahead. What I want to ask you is how YOUR corner of the world is likely to fare with what many predict i.e. the slowing of ocean currents that depend on temperature DIFFERENCES to drive them. YOUR area is already warm, it don't look good with less cooling. A similar situation is predicted for estern Europe where french grape is likely to freeze on the vine not to mention them not just climatologically marginal isles to the north. WE here are likely to benefit as our climate might become warmer, maybe like NY used to be. Time will tell. Banking on less hard freezing ahead I planted 250 alaskan cedars a couple of years ago, if half survive into this new epoch I will be dead BUT famous :-)))
Well, since you ask: yes, I live in the California coastal micro-climate about 6.5-km from the Pacific Coast. A general rule-of-thumb for the area is that the air temperature increases about 0.6-C for every kilometer you move east away from the coast. The effect flattens out about 15-km inland. Once you go inland and cross the coastal mountain range you get into the desert, about 150-km east of here, where the temperatures routinely get above 47-C in the summer. I have no idea what the future holds, it's been both warmer and cooler here in the past. It used to be a lot wetter too, with rivers and large animals roaming about. We even had sabre-tooth tigers and woolly mammoths not too long ago, so go figure. Mastodon bones were found right here in San Diego that were contemporaneous with humans. That's the thing about climates: they change. We really should cease this off-topic behavior before we're cancelled. Why don't you join us at offtopic? Just pop an email over to: offtopic-join@lists.opensuse.org Regards, Lew
Fri, 28 Jul 2023 12:11:13 -0700 Lew Wolfgang <wolfgang@sweet-haven.com> :
On 7/28/23 10:44, bent fender wrote:
Fri, 28 Jul 2023 10:11:13 -0700 Lew Wolfgang <wolfgang@sweet-haven.com> :
Since we're wandering into off-topic territory I might as well add that San Diego has been rather cool too. Indeed, there was a 4-month period starting in mid February this year where we didn't have a fully sunny day. Wolfgang Manor's solar array has been under-producing!
https://weatherspark.com/h/y/1816/2023/Historical-Weather-during-2023-in-San...
Our micro-climate is driven by being close to the coast where the California Current carries cold water down from the Bearing Sea. We have full-blown deserts not too far east of us. The only thing I cannot resist is temptation so off topic here goes!
I take it you live in the micro-climate you describe; I live in another similar one where the Gulf stream cools our eastern Quebec (and maritime provinces) climate. These cyclical sawtooth global warming episodes that have nothing to do with Greta's periods WILL become wider, wilder, and more frequent as we approach the tipping-point over into the next very long downslope to an ice-age. That 'point' may still be thousands of years ahead. What I want to ask you is how YOUR corner of the world is likely to fare with what many predict i.e. the slowing of ocean currents that depend on temperature DIFFERENCES to drive them. YOUR area is already warm, it don't look good with less cooling. A similar situation is predicted for estern Europe where french grape is likely to freeze on the vine not to mention them not just climatologically marginal isles to the north. WE here are likely to benefit as our climate might become warmer, maybe like NY used to be. Time will tell. Banking on less hard freezing ahead I planted 250 alaskan cedars a couple of years ago, if half survive into this new epoch I will be dead BUT famous :-)))
Well, since you ask: yes, I live in the California coastal micro-climate about 6.5-km from the Pacific Coast. A general rule-of-thumb for the area is that the air temperature increases about 0.6-C for every kilometer you move east away from the coast. The effect flattens out about 15-km inland. Once you go inland and cross the coastal mountain range you get into the desert, about 150-km east of here, where the temperatures routinely get above 47-C in the summer.
I have no idea what the future holds, it's been both warmer and cooler here in the past. It used to be a lot wetter too, with rivers and large animals roaming about. We even had sabre-tooth tigers and woolly mammoths not too long ago, so go figure. Mastodon bones were found right here in San Diego that were contemporaneous with humans. That's the thing about climates: they change.
We really should cease this off-topic behavior before we're cancelled. Why don't you join us at offtopic? Just pop an email over to:
offtopic-join@lists.opensuse.org
Regards, Lew
I'm much more likely to cancel suse than suse me, but I guess you're right; we must show an example to the neogens who seem to be almost half as unruly as we once were, done.
On Thu, Jul 27, 2023 at 2:38 PM Daniel Bauer <linux@daniel-bauer.com> wrote:
Last Sunday I wrote an email to Martin describing my problem.
Tuesday he sent me an executable with a new version and asked me to test it!
I fail to see how open source is relevant here. If *you* had modified the source, implemented necessary functionality and submitted the results *then* it would be a wonder of *open source*. So far it is just a very responsive software developer.
absolutely unthinkable in Win/Mac surroundings.
I never could grasp why every Linux user thinks it is mandatory to make derogatory comments about some other software, while users of this other software never do the same about Linux. Something freudian about it. Anyway - reporting a problem or sending a wish request and getting it implemented is certainly thinkable, doable and happens all the time in Win/Mac surroundings.
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