XMMS Stopped Playing MP3s
Hi, Recently xmms stopped playing MP3s on my system, which it used to handle just fine. I really only use XMMS to play pod-cast tracks downloaded by CastPodder (formerly iPodder, thank you Apple). My attempts to diagnose the problem were initially confused by the fact that a recent update to CastPodder contained a bug that causes it not to pass file name arguments on to xmms when launching it to play a track it had downloaded. When I figured that out, I tried opening audio files manually from XMMS. Only then did I realized that xmms was having problems with MP3s but not, e.g., Ogg-Vorbis files. Furthermore, a quick attempt to use various other MP3-capable players shows they're all working properly. Has anybody else encountered this symptom? If so, have you diagnosed the cause of the problem? Have you fixed it? Thanks in advance. Randall Schulz
On Fri November 25 2005 11:46 am, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Has anybody else encountered this symptom? If so, have you diagnosed the cause of the problem? Have you fixed it? on my updated SUSE 10.0 install I also have that problem. MP3's play in kaffeine and mplayer, but not xmms. I have these installed: mplayerplug-in-3.15-0.pm.0 xmms-kde-3.1-57 xmms-1.2.10-79.pm.1 xmms-lib-1.2.10-79.pm.1 amarok-xmms-1.3.6-1.guru.suse100.kde34 kaffeine-0.7.1-6
-- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800
On Friday 25 November 2005 12:06, Paul Cartwright wrote:
On Fri November 25 2005 11:46 am, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Has anybody else encountered this symptom? If so, have you diagnosed the cause of the problem? Have you fixed it?
on my updated SUSE 10.0 install I also have that problem. MP3's play in kaffeine and mplayer, but not xmms. I have these installed: mplayerplug-in-3.15-0.pm.0 xmms-kde-3.1-57 xmms-1.2.10-79.pm.1 xmms-lib-1.2.10-79.pm.1 amarok-xmms-1.3.6-1.guru.suse100.kde34 kaffeine-0.7.1-6
-- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 ========= Feeling silly today, just to aggravate Randy! Here are the files I have installed and xmms works with mp3, etc.
faad2-xmms-plugin-2.0-0.pm.6 amarok-xmms-1.3.6-5 xmms-devel-1.2.10-84 xmms-jack-0.14-2 flac-xmms-1.1.2-4 xmms-kde-3.1-57 xmms-lib-mad-1.2.10-79.pm.1 xmms-lib-1.2.10-84 python-xmms-2.04-4 xosd-xmms-2.2.12-4 xmms-1.2.10-84 xmms-gnome2-0-513 I found mine broken too and while doing some searching found a couple of SUSE provided files installed that blocked the mp3 play. Have fun! Lee
Lee, On Friday 25 November 2005 09:19, BandiPat wrote:
On Friday 25 November 2005 12:06, Paul Cartwright wrote:
On Fri November 25 2005 11:46 am, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Has anybody else encountered this symptom? If so, have you diagnosed the cause of the problem? Have you fixed it?
on my updated SUSE 10.0 install I also have that problem. MP3's play in kaffeine and mplayer, but not xmms. I have these installed: ...
-- Paul Cartwright
========= Feeling silly today, just to aggravate Randy! Here are the files I have installed and xmms works with mp3, etc.
...
Here's the comparison of package versions on Paul C.'s, BandiPat/Lee's and my system (fixed font helpful): amarok-xmms-1.3.1-7 -- R.S. amarok-xmms-1.3.6-1.guru.suse100.kde34 -- P.C. amarok-xmms-1.3.6-5 -- BP faad2-xmms-plugin-2.0-0.pm.6 -- BP faad2-xmms-plugin -- R.S; is not installed flac-xmms-1.1.2-4 -- BP flac-xmms-1.1.2-4 -- R.S. kaffeine-0.7.1-6 -- P.C. mplayerplug-in-3.15-0.pm.0 -- P.C. python-xmms-2.04-4 -- BP python-xmms-2.04-4 -- R.S. xmms-1.2.10-79.pm.1 -- P.C. xmms-1.2.10-79.pm.1 -- R.S. xmms-1.2.10-84 -- BP xmms-devel-1.2.10-84 -- BP xmms-devel -- R.S; is not installed xmms-gnome2-0-513 -- BP xmms-gnome2 -- R.S; is not installed xmms-jack-0.14-2 -- BP xmms-jack-0.14-2 -- R.S. xmms-kde-3.1-57 -- BP xmms-kde-3.1-57 -- P.C. xmms-kde -- R.S; is not installed xmms-lib-1.2.10-79.pm.1 -- P.C. xmms-lib-1.2.10-79.pm.1 -- R.S. xmms-lib-1.2.10-84 -- BP xmms-lib-mad-1.2.10-79.pm.1 -- BP xmms-lib-mad -- R.S; is not installed xosd-xmms-2.2.12-4 -- BP xosd-xmms -- R.S; is not installed
I found mine broken too and while doing some searching found a couple of SUSE provided files installed that blocked the mp3 play.
So I'm curious which repositories you're using, 'cause between the commercial DVD, Packman and Guru's RPM, I do not have access to xmms-1.2.10-84 (likewise xmms-lib-1.2.10-84). I also note that among packages installed on all three of our systems, these are the only ones for which you're running a newer version.
Have fun!
With computers, it's nothing _but_ fun...
Lee
Randall Schulz
On Fri November 25 2005 12:51 pm, Randall R Schulz wrote:
So I'm curious which repositories you're using, 'cause between the commercial DVD, Packman and Guru's RPM, I do not have access to xmms-1.2.10-84 (likewise xmms-lib-1.2.10-84). I also note that among packages installed on all three of our systems, these are the only ones for which you're running a newer version.
I just saw this in ANOTHER thread:
The MP3 problem goes even deeper than that. I used official SuSE updates to update from KDE 3.4 to KDE 3.5 and it broke the KDE sound system. Artsd crashed when a system sound was attempted. This was because SuSE chose to move MP3 support out of its default KDE rpms and put it elsewhere so it could be left out of the default install. When doing the update those new rpms were NOT installed. I had to install them explicitly. I submitted a bug report to the KDE team and wasted their time on this. They were kind enough to identify the solution -- I was not the first to run into this.
For the benefit of those who are battling the problem, what are those RPMs which fixed the issue and where did you find them?
kdemultimedia3-arts-mad-3.5.0-5 kdemultimedia3-mad-3.5.0-5 I don't have either of those packages installed.. -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 X-Request-PGP: http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-pcartwright/key.asc
Paul, On Friday 25 November 2005 10:56, Paul Cartwright wrote:
On Fri November 25 2005 12:51 pm, Randall R Schulz wrote:
So I'm curious which repositories you're using, 'cause between the commercial DVD, Packman and Guru's RPM, I do not have access to xmms-1.2.10-84 (likewise xmms-lib-1.2.10-84). I also note that among packages installed on all three of our systems, these are the only ones for which you're running a newer version.
I just saw this in ANOTHER thread:
The MP3 problem goes even deeper than that. I used official SuSE updates to update from KDE 3.4 to KDE 3.5 and it broke the KDE sound system. Artsd crashed when a system sound was attempted. This was because SuSE chose to move MP3 support out of its default KDE rpms and put it elsewhere so it could be left out of the default install. When doing the update those new rpms were NOT installed. I had to install them explicitly. I submitted a bug report to the KDE team and wasted their time on this. They were kind enough to identify the solution -- I was not the first to run into this.
Yes, I saw that too, but I don't think it's related because I am not using the (pre-release) KDE 3.5.
For the benefit of those who are battling the problem, what are those RPMs which fixed the issue and where did you find them?
kdemultimedia3-arts-mad-3.5.0-5 kdemultimedia3-mad-3.5.0-5
I don't have either of those packages installed..
So clearly this is not related to your experience of the "xmms cannot play MP3s" problem.
Paul Cartwright
Randall Schulz
On Fri November 25 2005 2:02 pm, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Yes, I saw that too, but I don't think it's related because I am not using the (pre-release) KDE 3.5. but you and BP are both using gnome, right? I am using KDE. and it also does not work for me in gnome. It does the same thing, does not allow me to add songs to the playlist.
-- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 X-Request-PGP: http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-pcartwright/key.asc
Paul, On Friday 25 November 2005 11:07, Paul Cartwright wrote:
On Fri November 25 2005 2:02 pm, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Yes, I saw that too, but I don't think it's related because I am not using the (pre-release) KDE 3.5.
but you and BP are both using gnome, right? I am using KDE. and it also does not work for me in gnome. It does the same thing, does not allow me to add songs to the playlist.
Oh, you're really not paying attention, are you? I'll never use Gnome. I'd rather fight than switch, if you catch my drift...
Paul Cartwright
Would you consider taking the "Reply-To:" header out of your email to this list? Randall Schulz
On Fri November 25 2005 2:12 pm, Randall R Schulz wrote:
but you and BP are both using gnome, right? I am using KDE. and it also does not work for me in gnome. It does the same thing, does not allow me to add songs to the playlist.
Oh, you're really not paying attention, are you?
wha? you sent this: xmms-kde-3.1-57 -- BP xmms-kde-3.1-57 -- P.C. xmms-kde -- R.S; is not installed so.. I thought that says xmms for KDE is not installed.
I'll never use Gnome. I'd rather fight than switch, if you catch my drift...
I tried it, and went back to KDE. looks like a 3 foot snow drift to me:)
Paul Cartwright
Would you consider taking the "Reply-To:" header out of your email to this list?
not a problem. -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 X-Request-PGP: http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-pcartwright/key.asc
Paul, On Friday 25 November 2005 11:44, Paul Cartwright wrote:
On Fri November 25 2005 2:12 pm, Randall R Schulz wrote:
but you and BP are both using gnome, right? I am using KDE. and it also does not work for me in gnome. It does the same thing, does not allow me to add songs to the playlist.
Oh, you're really not paying attention, are you?
By that I was alluding to the whole "Novell's dropping KDE" brouhaha.
wha? you sent this: xmms-kde-3.1-57 -- BP xmms-kde-3.1-57 -- P.C. xmms-kde -- R.S; is not installed
so.. I thought that says xmms for KDE is not installed.
Look at what xmms-kde actually is: "This is a small applet to control XMMS. It docks in the KDE panel (Kicker). This package also includes an aRts output plug-in, so that XMMS can play sounds through the aRts server. " In fact, after reading Lee's mail, I did install that package. But still no MP3 play from xmms (nor would I expect that package to make a diffference, but sometimes unexpected interactions occur).
I'll never use Gnome. I'd rather fight than switch, if you catch my drift...
I tried it, and went back to KDE. looks like a 3 foot snow drift to me:)
Interesting. I don't know what that means...
Paul Cartwright
Would you consider taking the "Reply-To:" header out of your email to this list?
not a problem.
Gee. Thanks. I was expecting a "take a hike" / "learn how to use your email client" response.
Paul Cartwright
Randall Schulz
On Fri November 25 2005 2:58 pm, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Oh, you're really not paying attention, are you?
By that I was alluding to the whole "Novell's dropping KDE" brouhaha.
oh, I read it all, I didn't think that is what you were referring to. that thread is why I tried gnome. Failed, so I will bail if Novell drops KDE support. I just didn't chime in with a "me to" list mail.
Look at what xmms-kde actually is:
<SNIP>
In fact, after reading Lee's mail, I did install that package. But still no MP3 play from xmms (nor would I expect that package to make a diffference, but sometimes unexpected interactions occur).
no luck here either.
I'll never use Gnome. I'd rather fight than switch, if you catch my drift...
I tried it, and went back to KDE. looks like a 3 foot snow drift to me:)
Interesting. I don't know what that means...
if yo catch my drift... as in a 3 foot snow drift.., how about a drift the size of the empire state building??? I GOT YOUR POINT:)
Paul Cartwright
Would you consider taking the "Reply-To:" header out of your email to this list?
not a problem.
Gee. Thanks. I was expecting a "take a hike" / "learn how to use your email client" response.
I understand the concept of reply-to and what happens on the list.. I've seen quite a few messages about "DON'T REPLY TO ME AND THE LIST".. -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800
On Friday 25 November 2005 14:12, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Paul,
On Friday 25 November 2005 11:07, Paul Cartwright wrote:
On Fri November 25 2005 2:02 pm, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Yes, I saw that too, but I don't think it's related because I am not using the (pre-release) KDE 3.5.
but you and BP are both using gnome, right? I am using KDE. and it also does not work for me in gnome. It does the same thing, does not allow me to add songs to the playlist.
Oh, you're really not paying attention, are you?
I'll never use Gnome. I'd rather fight than switch, if you catch my drift...
Paul Cartwright
Would you consider taking the "Reply-To:" header out of your email to this list?
Randall Schulz =========
I agree with Randall here, KDE for me too! Lee
Hi, On Friday 25 November 2005 09:51, Randall R Schulz wrote:
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So I'm curious which repositories you're using, 'cause between the commercial DVD, Packman and Guru's RPM, I do not have access to xmms-1.2.10-84 (likewise xmms-lib-1.2.10-84). I also note that among packages installed on all three of our systems, these are the only ones for which you're running a newer version.
I found 1.2.10-84 of xmms and xmms-lib in the Gnome supplementary repository. However, installing that version does not alleviate the problem with xmms' inability to play MP3s. Randall Schulz
Yo! Lee! On Friday 25 November 2005 09:51, Randall R Schulz wrote:
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I don't know if you missed this, but since I'm still without MP3 playback from xmms and since you're running a version of xmms and xmms-lib that I can't find, I thought I'd ask again:
So I'm curious which repositories you're using, 'cause between the commercial DVD, Packman and Guru's RPM, I do not have access to xmms-1.2.10-84 (likewise xmms-lib-1.2.10-84). I also note that among packages installed on all three of our systems, these are the only ones for which you're running a newer version.
Thanks. Randall Schulz
Randall R Schulz wrote:
I don't know if you missed this, but since I'm still without MP3 playback from xmms and since you're running a version of xmms and xmms-lib that I can't find, I thought I'd ask again:
You need the xmms-lib-mad package. joe@jmorris:~> rpm -ql xmms-lib-mad /usr/lib64/xmms/Input/libmpg123.la /usr/lib64/xmms/Input/libmpg123.so (Mine is 9.3 and x86_64, but should be the same for you. -- Joe Morris New Tribes Mission Email Address: Joe_Morris@ntm.org Registered Linux user 231871
Joe, On Friday 25 November 2005 22:35, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
You need the xmms-lib-mad package. joe@jmorris:~> rpm -ql xmms-lib-mad /usr/lib64/xmms/Input/libmpg123.la /usr/lib64/xmms/Input/libmpg123.so (Mine is 9.3 and x86_64, but should be the same for you.
Huh. That did it. But I don't remember uninstalling that package, so I don't know why xmms was working before or why it stopped working recently. Oh, well. I'll settle for getting the intended outcome. Thanks.
Joe Morris
Randall Schulz
Randall R Schulz wrote:
Huh. That did it. But I don't remember uninstalling that package, so I don't know why xmms was working before or why it stopped working recently.
It is probably a case of them splitting off some files that used to be in the main package and making another package, to make it possible to disable mp3 playback to make the lawyers and BSA happy, and their customers just have to work a bit harder to get their system complete. It is a product of the world we now live in. -- Joe Morris New Tribes Mission Email Address: Joe_Morris@ntm.org Registered Linux user 231871
On Sat November 26 2005 2:00 am, Randall R Schulz wrote:
You need the xmms-lib-mad package.
Huh. That did it. But I don't remember uninstalling that package, so I don't know why xmms was working before or why it stopped working recently.
likewise, unless it was uninstalled by some update.
Oh, well. I'll settle for getting the intended outcome.
works here too now! -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800
Hello again, On Friday 25 November 2005 23:00, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Joe,
On Friday 25 November 2005 22:35, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
You need the xmms-lib-mad package. joe@jmorris:~> rpm -ql xmms-lib-mad /usr/lib64/xmms/Input/libmpg123.la /usr/lib64/xmms/Input/libmpg123.so (Mine is 9.3 and x86_64, but should be the same for you.
Huh. That did it. But I don't remember uninstalling that package, so I don't know why xmms was working before or why it stopped working recently.
Oh, well. I'll settle for getting the intended outcome.
And it gets weirder. Now CastPodder has started working again. I got another clue on that front. While the problems (both the CastPodder not passing on a file name and xmms not playing MP3s) was still entirely undiagnosed, I created a shell script to intercept xmms invocations and log their command lines before passing the call on to the real xmms. There were no arguments and then xmms would display its file open dialog. I assumed this was a problem with CastPodder. But it turns out that the command line is apparently not how CastPodder tells xmms which file to play, 'cause the logged command lines are still blank, but now xmms plays the file as before. Having the intercept script pass the invocation on to amaroK instead of xmms works when I run it manually from the command line, supplying the file name myself, but not when CastPodder invokes the script. Apparently there was only one problem, the xmms problem, and it appeared to me to be two problems. Live and learn ... If you're lucky ... On both counts. Randall Schulz
Hi, On Friday 25 November 2005 22:15, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Yo! Lee!
On Friday 25 November 2005 09:51, Randall R Schulz wrote:
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I don't know if you missed this, but since I'm still without MP3 playback from xmms and since you're running a version of xmms and
Man, I'm really losin' it. I _did_ find 1.2.10-84 of those packages and reported it here. Sheesh! Sorry to bother y'all. Randall Schulz
On Friday 25 November 2005 11:46, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Hi, [...] Has anybody else encountered this symptom? If so, have you diagnosed the cause of the problem? Have you fixed it?
Thanks in advance.
Randall Schulz ========= Randill,
In answer to your questions: yes, yes & yes Happy Holidays! Lee ;-)
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