[opensuse] Open SuSE 13.1 on Dell 4400
seems to be useless whats more to try to get wireless working I seem to need hplip-hpiJs and Java-1_7_0-openjdk. attempts to install from the dvd do not work even with a clean install. Now I read this one core processor may not work at all because of this systemd. Is there a way to correct these flaws other than installing 11.4 which works on most all of the rest of my computers. -- Lynux the choice of a GNU generation ,= ,-_-. =. ((_/)o o(\_)) `-'(. .)`-' \_/ CWSIV -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Friday, March 14, 2014 07:49:25 PM Carl Spitzer wrote:
seems to be useless whats more to try to get wireless working I seem to need hplip-hpiJs and Java-1_7_0-openjdk.
attempts to install from the dvd do not work even with a clean install. Now I read this one core processor may not work at all because of this systemd.
Is there a way to correct these flaws other than installing 11.4 which works on most all of the rest of my computers.
Are you referring to a Dell Dimension 4400 Tower PC? If so those are old, and would likely have a Pentium 4 so it should work fine. WiFi will not require hplip or openJDK and should only require you to install the necessary drivers for your WiFi hardware. If you do not have Atheros, which it sounds like you do not then they more than likely will not be available from the Installation DVD. In my experiences with Dell they typically utilize Broadcom which has closed source drivers. although I have not really seen any Dell tower PCs that include integrated WiFi though. What is the actual computer model and what is the actual hardware you are using? If you can boot from a Live CD or Live USB run the: `lspci && lsusb && cat /proc/cpuinfo` utilities to collect all your hardware info. My ASUS X200CA-HCL12050 notebook (which works great with GNU/Linux and are available for around $279.00) for example provides the following: #lspci && lsusb && cat /proc/cpuinfo 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor DRAM Controller (rev 09) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09) 00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family USB xHCI Host Controller (rev 04) 00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family MEI Controller #1 (rev 04) 00:1a.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller #2 (rev 04) 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04) 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 1 (rev c4) 00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 2 (rev c4) 00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 4 (rev c4) 00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller #1 (rev 04) 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 7 Series Chipset Family LPC Controller (rev 04) 00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 7 Series Chipset Family 6-port SATA Controller [AHCI mode] (rev 04) 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family SMBus Controller (rev 04) 02:00.0 Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros AR9485 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01) 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Qualcomm Atheros QCA8172 Fast Ethernet (rev 10) Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub Bus 001 Device 003: ID 058f:6366 Alcor Micro Corp. Multi Flash Reader Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0457:1028 Silicon Integrated Systems Corp. Bus 001 Device 006: ID 13d3:3362 IMC Networks Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0bda:5605 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 6 model : 58 model name : Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 1007U @ 1.50GHz stepping : 9 microcode : 0x19 cpu MHz : 1499.941 cache size : 2048 KB physical id : 0 siblings : 2 core id : 0 cpu cores : 2 apicid : 0 initial apicid : 0 fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 13 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl xtopology nonstop_tsc aperfmperf eagerfpu pni pclmulqdq dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm pcid sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic popcnt tsc_deadline_timer xsave lahf_lm arat epb xsaveopt pln pts dtherm tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid fsgsbase smep erms bogomips : 2993.30 clflush size : 64 cache_alignment : 64 address sizes : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual power management: processor : 1 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 6 model : 58 model name : Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 1007U @ 1.50GHz stepping : 9 microcode : 0x19 cpu MHz : 1500.000 cache size : 2048 KB physical id : 0 siblings : 2 core id : 1 cpu cores : 2 apicid : 2 initial apicid : 2 fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 13 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl xtopology nonstop_tsc aperfmperf eagerfpu pni pclmulqdq dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm pcid sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic popcnt tsc_deadline_timer xsave lahf_lm arat epb xsaveopt pln pts dtherm tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid fsgsbase smep erms bogomips : 2993.30 clflush size : 64 cache_alignment : 64 address sizes : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual power management: Tim -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
lspci && lsusb && cat /proc/cpuinfo 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82845 845 [Brookdale] Chipset Host Bridge (rev 04) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82845 845 [Brookdale] Chipset AGP Bridge (rev 04) 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 05) 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801BA ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 05) 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801BA IDE U100 Controller (rev 05) 00:1f.2 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM USB Controller #1 (rev 05) 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM SMBus Controller (rev 05) 00:1f.4 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM USB Controller #1 (rev 05) 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 05) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] (rev b2) 02:0a.0 Communication controller: Conexant Systems, Inc. HSF 56k Data/Fax Modem (rev 01) 02:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Davicom Semiconductor, Inc. 21x4x DEC-Tulip compatible 10/100 Ethernet (rev 31) Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 15 model : 2 model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.00GHz stepping : 4 microcode : 0x7 cpu MHz : 1993.564 cache size : 512 KB fdiv_bug : no f00f_bug : no coma_bug : no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 2 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pebs bts bogomips : 3987.12 clflush size : 64 cache_alignment : 128 address sizes : 36 bits physical, 32 bits virtual power management: lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82845 845 [Brookdale] Chipset Host Bridge (rev 04) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82845 845 [Brookdale] Chipset AGP Bridge (rev 04) 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 05) 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801BA ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 05) 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801BA IDE U100 Controller (rev 05) 00:1f.2 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM USB Controller #1 (rev 05) 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM SMBus Controller (rev 05) 00:1f.4 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM USB Controller #1 (rev 05) 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 05) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] (rev b2) 02:0a.0 Communication controller: Conexant Systems, Inc. HSF 56k Data/Fax Modem (rev 01) 02:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Davicom Semiconductor, Inc. 21x4x DEC-Tulip compatible 10/100 Ethernet (rev 31) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
The overlap between the hardware you have and Dell hardware I use with 13.1, plus the modem and wireless you've added, suggests a possibility that too little RAM could possibly be your problem. Exactly when during 13.1 did the failure occur, and how did it manifest? If you haven't already, I suggest if you can't add more RAM you try enabling swap prior to letting installation proceed past the first GUI step. Switch to vtty2 and run swapon if a swap partition already exists. If it doesn't, try partitioning that includes creating a prepared swap partition in advance of commencing another 13.1 installation attempt. Also you could try disabling unneeded resources in the motherboard BIOS (LPT port, serial ports, etc.). If you haven't tried running memtest lately, run it through several passes. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 03:34:40 PM Carl Spitzer wrote:
lspci && lsusb && cat /proc/cpuinfo 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82845 845 [Brookdale] Chipset Host Bridge (rev 04) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82845 845 [Brookdale] Chipset AGP Bridge (rev 04) 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 05) 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801BA ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 05) 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801BA IDE U100 Controller (rev 05) 00:1f.2 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM USB Controller #1 (rev 05) 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM SMBus Controller (rev 05) 00:1f.4 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM USB Controller #1 (rev 05) 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 05) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] (rev b2) 02:0a.0 Communication controller: Conexant Systems, Inc. HSF 56k Data/Fax Modem (rev 01) 02:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Davicom Semiconductor, Inc. 21x4x DEC-Tulip compatible 10/100 Ethernet (rev 31) Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 15 model : 2 model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.00GHz stepping : 4 microcode : 0x7 cpu MHz : 1993.564 cache size : 512 KB fdiv_bug : no f00f_bug : no coma_bug : no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 2 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pebs bts bogomips : 3987.12 clflush size : 64 cache_alignment : 128 address sizes : 36 bits physical, 32 bits virtual power management:
lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82845 845 [Brookdale] Chipset Host Bridge (rev 04) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82845 845 [Brookdale] Chipset AGP Bridge (rev 04) 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 05) 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801BA ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 05) 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801BA IDE U100 Controller (rev 05) 00:1f.2 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM USB Controller #1 (rev 05) 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM SMBus Controller (rev 05) 00:1f.4 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM USB Controller #1 (rev 05) 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 05) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] (rev b2) 02:0a.0 Communication controller: Conexant Systems, Inc. HSF 56k Data/Fax Modem (rev 01) 02:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Davicom Semiconductor, Inc. 21x4x DEC-Tulip compatible 10/100 Ethernet (rev 31)
Their is a closed source driver for your USB WiFi available on the manufacturer website. I do not see it in openSUSE 13.1 or in OBS currently. http://www.engeniustech.com.sg/node/277 you will need to download and install it. You can open up a Bug Request and ask to have it packaged, it might get packaged as part of Non-OSS if it is possible to package it! I would contact the company and request that they create an open source driver and submit it into the Linux Kernel. You also have an NVIDIA graphics card, are you using the open source driver or are you using the closed source driver? I do not know much about NVIDIA as I stay with Intel Graphics "Open Source Drivers in Mesa!" you can make a post on the openSUSE forum under Hardware to get suggestions regarding this. Also in the output from lsusb the WiFi device is not listed, after you install the driver you may have to unplug it and then plug it back in. Are you just now migrating this from Windows XP due to the End of Support for Windows XP? Tim -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----Original Message----- From: timothy.m.butterworth@gmail.com To: opensuse@opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse] Open SuSE 13.1 on Dell 4400 Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2014 19:23:04 -0500 On Sunday, March 16, 2014 03:34:40 PM Carl Spitzer wrote:
lspci && lsusb && cat /proc/cpuinfo 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82845 845 [Brookdale] Chipset Host Bridge (rev 04) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82845 845 [Brookdale] Chipset AGP Bridge (rev 04)
Their is a closed source driver for your USB WiFi available on the manufacturer website. I do not see it in openSUSE 13.1 or in OBS currently. http://www.engeniustech.com.sg/node/277 you will need to download and install it. You can open up a Bug Request and ask to have it packaged, it might get packaged as part of Non-OSS if it is possible to package it!
I would contact the company and request that they create an open source driver and submit it into the Linux Kernel.
Interesting as it works with no use of their closed driver in 11.4
You also have an NVIDIA graphics card, are you using the open source driver or are you using the closed source driver? I do not know much about NVIDIA as I
Just whatever comes out of the install disk and have not gotten to that problem. Might have to consider 11.4 until 13 gets the bugs out.
Also in the output from lsusb the WiFi device is not listed, after you install the driver you may have to unplug it and then plug it back in.
I did not do the lsusb etc test with device in as the second install is crappy especially GNOME
Are you just now migrating this from Windows XP due to the End of Support for Windows XP?
No just trying to make a multiboot system. May have to put in another drive and go with 11.4 until I can buy more memory. CWSIV -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
El 14/03/14 23:49, Carl Spitzer escribió:
seems to be useless whats more to try to get wireless working I seem to need hplip-hpiJs and Java-1_7_0-openjdk.
wifi does not require either of those packages.
attempts to install from the dvd do not work even with a clean install. Now I read this one core processor may not work at all because of this systemd.
Systemd does not control the amount of CPU cores available.
Is there a way to correct these flaws other than installing 11.4 which works on most all of the rest of my computers.
Be more specific with your problem, this email barely made sense. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Sat, 2014-03-15 at 00:54 -0300, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
El 14/03/14 23:49, Carl Spitzer escribió:
seems to be useless whats more to try to get wireless working I seem to need hplip-hpiJs and Java-1_7_0-openjdk.
wifi does not require either of those packages.
attempts to install from the dvd do not work even with a clean install. Now I read this one core processor may not work at all because of this systemd.
Systemd does not control the amount of CPU cores available.
Is there a way to correct these flaws other than installing 11.4 which works on most all of the rest of my computers.
Be more specific with your problem, this email barely made sense.
Basically I have an Engenius EUB 9603H usb connected wireless device I am trying to make work on a dell dimension 4400 with 512mb memory and a 2 gig Intel processor. I tested the hardware with the existing OS XP which I intend to replace. I was able to make the wireless work and download 13.1. Ill get the other details when I am not running off to work. Am I running on too little memory?? Strange thing is second clean install is worse than first and gnome comes up as three large blockx of gray with no icons. I will be keeping 13.1 on the 60gig drive and using anotherone for 11.4. I CWSIV -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
El 16/03/14 19:42, Carl Spitzer escribió:
Basically I have an Engenius EUB 9603H usb connected wireless device
This card is reported to have an RTL8188 chip..whose driver is in the kernel "staging" section.. that usually means the driver is not yet ready for prime time.. apparently it is maintained by Larry Finger who is a regular on this list. 512 MB RAM is certain little for modern standards, I have serious doubts that KDE or GNOME will perform well with that amount ..but a lightweight DE may do the trick. The only way to know about your wifi problem is by reading the log.. so whenever you see connection failure post the output of journalctl -k -b as root. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Sun, 2014-03-16 at 22:24 -0300, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
El 16/03/14 19:42, Carl Spitzer escribió:
Basically I have an Engenius EUB 9603H usb connected wireless device
This card is reported to have an RTL8188 chip..whose driver is in the kernel "staging" section.. that usually means the driver is not yet ready for prime time.. apparently it is maintained by Larry Finger who is a regular on this list.
512 MB RAM is certain little for modern standards, I have serious doubts that KDE or GNOME will perform well with that amount ..but a lightweight DE may do the trick. Strange now I am trying with 11.4 I am having it freeze on install at 70% of probing hardware search for system files. I did a media check and the disk checks fine. I have another 11.4 system with a 512mb and the install worked there just fine so I am wondering if the dell has a problem.
there is always the other box install cheat by putting the 200G drive in the working system and doing the install there and moving it back. If that works the additional memory will be purchased.
The only way to know about your wifi problem is by reading the log.. so whenever you see connection failure post the output of journalctl -k -b as root.
first I have to get the install to work. But with 11.4 having issue on the Dell it may be a HW issue. -- Lynux the choice of a GNU generation ,= ,-_-. =. ((_/)o o(\_)) `-'(. .)`-' \_/ CWSIV -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2014-03-22 10:43 (GMT-0700) Carl Spitzer composed:
Strange now I am trying with 11.4 I am having it freeze on install at 70% of probing hardware search for system files. I did a media check and the disk checks fine. I have another 11.4 system with a 512mb and the install worked there just fine so I am wondering if the dell has a problem.
Very likely this problem: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague I found bad caps on a 4400 about last November. Time to pop it open and look. Likely you'll see several bad ones. If you don't see any on the motherboard, open up the power supply and look inside it. Many times this is a problem one can fix oneself if the hardware is worth keeping working, but with i845 I suggest retirement. http://www.badcaps.net/ Your money is better spent elsewhere than on RAM for such an old system. You can get a several years newer and faster Dell from Craigslist or eBay for as little as you might pay for more RAM. e.g. GX620 http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/sys/4370632182.html -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
El 22/03/14 15:27, Felix Miata escribió:
I found bad caps on a 4400 about last November. Time to pop it open and look. Likely you'll see several bad ones. If you don't see any on the motherboard, open up the power supply and look inside it. Many times this is a problem one can fix oneself if the hardware is worth keeping working, but with i845 I suggest retirement. http://www.badcaps.net/
Unless we are talking about a very special system, attempting to repair this issue is not worth the hassle IMHO. (That may be because I am a software guy, if hardware does not work.. burn it ! throw it away! :-D ) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 23/03/2014 16:25, Cristian Rodríguez a écrit :
motherboard, open up the power supply and look inside it.
*dangerous* non isolated wires, unplug the AC outlet before!!
Unless we are talking about a very special system, attempting to repair this issue is not worth the hassle IMHO. (That may be because I am a software guy, if hardware does not work.. burn it ! throw it away! :-D )
learning to fix hardware is fascinating. I have a friend very wise on the subject ;-). Fixing a faulty laptop with an oven is an experience worth to live (and of trash hardware, no risk :-) jdd -- http://www.dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2014-03-23 12:25 (GMT-0300) Cristian Rodríguez composed:
El 22/03/14 15:27, Felix Miata escribió:
...Many times this is a problem one can fix oneself if the hardware is worth keeping working...
Unless we are talking about a very special system, attempting to repair this issue is not worth the hassle IMHO.
Your reply suggests you missed a key two-letter word in what you quoted.
(That may be because I am a software guy, if hardware does not work.. burn it ! throw it away! :-D )
Must be nice to have an ample hardware budget. :-D -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2014-03-16 15:42 (GMT-0700) Carl Spitzer composed:
Basically I have an Engenius EUB 9603H usb connected wireless device I am trying to make work on a dell dimension 4400 with 512mb memory and a 2 gig Intel processor.
I tested the hardware with the existing OS XP which I intend to replace. I was able to make the wireless work and download 13.1.
Did you download via the wireless connection? I'd be surprised to see acceptable throughput with any wireless device connected to a USB 1.1 port: Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub According to Google, the Dimension 4400 provided 0 USB 2.0 ports. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----Original Message----- From: Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> To: opensuse@opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse] Open SuSE 13.1 on Dell 4400 Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2014 21:56:44 -0400 On 2014-03-16 15:42 (GMT-0700) Carl Spitzer composed:
Basically I have an Engenius EUB 9603H usb connected wireless device I am trying to make work on a dell dimension 4400 with 512mb memory and a 2 gig Intel processor.
I tested the hardware with the existing OS XP which I intend to replace. I was able to make the wireless work and download 13.1.
Did you download via the wireless connection? I'd be surprised to see acceptable throughput with any wireless device connected to a USB 1.1 port:
Yes I used the back ports which must have been the 2.0 the front ports are a pain to get to. CWSIV -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2014-03-19 12:30 (GMT-0700) Carl Spitzer composed:
Felix Miata composed:
On 2014-03-16 15:42 (GMT-0700) Carl Spitzer composed:
Basically I have an Engenius EUB 9603H usb connected wireless device I am trying to make work on a dell dimension 4400 with 512mb memory and a 2 gig Intel processor.
I tested the hardware with the existing OS XP which I intend to replace. I was able to make the wireless work and download 13.1.
Did you download via the wireless connection? I'd be surprised to see acceptable throughput with any wireless device connected to a USB 1.1 port:
Yes I used the back ports which must have been the 2.0 the front ports are a pain to get to.
What is it makes you think you have any 2.0 USB ports? According to http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2014-03/msg00375.html and everything I've been able to find about a Dimension 4400[1] you don't have anything except 1.1. [1] e.g. http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080822203829AA1h82k http://www.pcreview.co.uk/forums/intel-82801ba-bam-usb-2-0-a-t1950104.html [2] I get 404s trying to find the actual USB spec for a 4400 on Dell.com. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Wed, 2014-03-19 at 16:34 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
What is it makes you think you have any 2.0 USB ports? According to http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2014-03/msg00375.html and everything I've been able to find about a Dimension 4400[1] you don't have anything except 1.1.
[1] e.g. http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080822203829AA1h82k http://www.pcreview.co.uk/forums/intel-82801ba-bam-usb-2-0-a-t1950104.html
[2] I get 404s trying to find the actual USB spec for a 4400 on Dell.com.
Whatever I have it worked in XP for downloading in the Dell 4400 with 512mb. The other P4 has only 512 and the 11.4 install worked there but not on the Dell. It could be the Dell as I have attempted to install 11.4 with three different burns of the install media which I did media check upon and each stopped at the same place. I note there is a install from hard drive and then I can always install on the working system and move the drive back which is the trick I used for SuSE 10.0 which this HP Kayak I use for email still runs and well I might add except for dated browsers which crash too much. It would seem that desktop cases are not the only puzzle Dell provides for the user besides still carrying memory for this old box which mazes out at 1G. -- Lynux the choice of a GNU generation ,= ,-_-. =. ((_/)o o(\_)) `-'(. .)`-' \_/ CWSIV -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Sat, 2014-03-15 at 00:54 -0300, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
El 14/03/14 23:49, Carl Spitzer escribió:
seems to be useless whats more to try to get wireless working I seem to need hplip-hpiJs and Java-1_7_0-openjdk.
wifi does not require either of those packages.
attempts to install from the dvd do not work even with a clean install. Now I read this one core processor may not work at all because of this systemd.
Systemd does not control the amount of CPU cores available.
Is there a way to correct these flaws other than installing 11.4 which works on most all of the rest of my computers.
Be more specific with your problem, this email barely made sense.
Basically I have an Engenius EUB 9603H usb connected wireless device I am trying to make work on a dell dimension 4400 with 512mb memory and a 2 gig Intel processor. CWSIV -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Sat, 2014-03-15 at 00:54 -0300, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
El 14/03/14 23:49, Carl Spitzer escribió:
seems to be useless whats more to try to get wireless working I seem to need hplip-hpiJs and Java-1_7_0-openjdk.
wifi does not require either of those packages.
attempts to install from the dvd do not work even with a clean install. Now I read this one core processor may not work at all because of this systemd.
Systemd does not control the amount of CPU cores available.
Is there a way to correct these flaws other than installing 11.4 which works on most all of the rest of my computers.
Be more specific with your problem, this email barely made sense.
Basically I have an Engenius EUB 9603H usb connected wireless device I am trying to make work on a dell dimension 4400 with 512mb memory and a 2 gig Intel processor. CWSIV -- Lynux the choice of a GNU generation ,= ,-_-. =. ((_/)o o(\_)) `-'(. .)`-' \_/ CWSIV -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2014-03-14 22:49 (GMT-0400) Carl Spitzer composed:
seems to be useless whats more to try to get wireless working I seem to need hplip-hpiJs and Java-1_7_0-openjdk.
Close to impossible to respond to definitively without knowing what your wireless hardware is.
attempts to install from the dvd do not work even with a clean install.
Did you md5sum the download before burning it, or verify it afterward?
Now I read this one core processor may not work at all because of this systemd.
Cristian answered this.
Is there a way to correct these flaws other than installing 11.4 which works on most all of the rest of my computers.
I have a big bunch of single core Dells with 13.1 working just fine. None are any kind of "4400". If you provide the specifications of a "4400" maybe someone could recognize some reason for your trouble, or suggest steps to take. Does the "4400" come shipped from Dell with wireless? What wireless hardware does it have? Did you try installing wired to ethernet, then adding wireless afterward? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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