Okay, quite a few people emailed me, both on and off list about mostly the same issues with ULB GNOME 2.8.0. I've addressed as many as possible in my blog (http://rubberturnip.org.uk/cgi-bin/blog/2004/09/29#20040929) and if any further ones come in, I'll do the same. My blog is also included in Planet SuSE (www.planetsuse.org). -- James Ogley james@rubberturnip.org.uk http://rubberturnip.org.uk
On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 14:37:39 +0100 James Ogley
Okay, quite a few people emailed me, both on and off list about mostly the same issues with ULB GNOME 2.8.0.
I've addressed as many as possible in my blog (http://rubberturnip.org.uk/cgi-bin/blog/2004/09/29#20040929) and if any further ones come in, I'll do the same. My blog is also included in Planet SuSE (www.planetsuse.org).
I'm sorry, James, but what I'd appreciate help with is how to SOLVE ULB GNOME 2.8 issues. Your blog attributes several of the dependency problems I'm seeing to packages having been fetched from suse-people. That does not help me -- to the best of my knowledge I've never ever fetched anything from suse-people! What I would appreciate is someone telling me WHERE to find the "correct" versions that work with Gnome 2.8 yet do not create dependency issues. [An example is resolving libsoup - the APT package in usr_local_bin depends on libgnutls.so.10 -- but I have NO IDEA where that file can be obtained -- the one I have on my system is libgnutls.so.8 ] Plus if the answer is for me to fetch sources and compile them myself, HOW do I tell the RPM database that I manually installed that package ? Thanks, mikus
I'm sorry, James, but what I'd appreciate help with is how to SOLVE ULB GNOME 2.8 issues. Your blog attributes several of the dependency problems I'm seeing to packages having been fetched from suse-people. That does not help me -- to the best of my knowledge I've never ever fetched anything from suse-people!
Check your sources.list - if the packages that are causing the problems come from somewhere else, I'm keen to know, so I can try to resolve them, time allowing.
[An example is resolving libsoup - the APT package in usr_local_bin depends on libgnutls.so.10 -- but I have NO IDEA where that file can be obtained -- the one I have on my system is libgnutls.so.8 ]
Well, the gnutls package I have installed, is an official SuSE build: ogley@riggwelter:/usr/local/install/ooo-build-1.3.5> rpm -q -- whatprovides libgnutls.so.10 gnutls-1.0.8-26 If you do rpm -qi gnutls you will see the vendor and build host - both should be obviously SuSE related (on mine they are SuSE Linux AG, Nuernberg, Germany and dale.suse.de)
Plus if the answer is for me to fetch sources and compile them myself, HOW do I tell the RPM database that I manually installed that package ?
The best way is to rebuild the src.rpm for your system: rpmbuild -ba --target=i586 filename.src.rpm This will produce a binary package built against the specific versions of libraries you have. Thinking about the gnutls issue, I wonder if you've upgraded from an older version of SuSE, and have somehow ended up with the old version of gnutls still installed - cos you have an older version of the library available. -- James Ogley james@rubberturnip.org.uk http://rubberturnip.org.uk
On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 22:43:57 +0100 James Ogley
I'm sorry, James, but what I'd appreciate help with is how to SOLVE ULB GNOME 2.8 issues. Your blog attributes several of the dependency problems I'm seeing to packages having been fetched from suse-people. That does not help me -- to the best of my knowledge I've never ever fetched anything from suse-people!
Check your sources.list - if the packages that are causing the problems come from somewhere else, I'm keen to know, so I can try to resolve them, time allowing.
Here's the components in the sources.list that I normally use: kde gnome suser-rbos packman packman-i686 wine xorg update security The only one that duplicates part of 'usr_local_bin' is 'gnome' - but with the most recent versions of both lists the only conflict seems to be 'gdm'. To access 'usr_local_bin' and occasionally 'guru' I use a single-component sources.list. (And 'guru' packages do not seem to conflict with 'usr-local-bin' packages.) I do not access other components.
[An example is resolving libsoup - the APT package in usr_local_bin depends on libgnutls.so.10 -- but I have NO IDEA where that file can be obtained -- the one I have on my system is libgnutls.so.8 ]
Well, the gnutls package I have installed, is an official SuSE build:
ogley@riggwelter:/usr/local/install/ooo-build-1.3.5> rpm -q -- whatprovides libgnutls.so.10 gnutls-1.0.8-26
If you do rpm -qi gnutls you will see the vendor and build host - both should be obviously SuSE related (on mine they are SuSE Linux AG, Nuernberg, Germany and dale.suse.de)
Thinking about the gnutls issue, I wonder if you've upgraded from an older version of SuSE, and have somehow ended up with the old version of gnutls still installed - cos you have an older version of the library available.
Thank you - that gave me the solution - my gnutls could well have been left over from SuSE 9.0. 'rpm -qi gnutls' told me NOTHING! So I used YaST to remove 'gnutls', then reinstalled it from the CD. Now 'rpm -qi gnutls' *did* show information; and libsoup *did* install. [BTW - I am __completely__ overwhelmed by 'man rpm' -- it lists far too many parameters, and my eyes simply glaze over. What Linux needs is not a 'reference' but a 'users guide' (i.e., cookbook) that tells what EXACTLY should be typed in for EVERYDAY use. By the time 'man rpm' tells me I need to specify the formatting of what I want 'rpm' to show, I just give up on the whole thing.]
Plus if the answer is for me to fetch sources and compile them myself, HOW do I tell the RPM database that I manually installed that package ?
The best way is to rebuild the src.rpm for your system: rpmbuild -ba --target=i586 filename.src.rpm
This will produce a binary package built against the specific versions of libraries you have.
Do I hear people saying: "It is easy to use Linux" ? mikus
The only one that duplicates part of 'usr_local_bin' is 'gnome' - but with the most recent versions of both lists the only conflict seems to be 'gdm'.
Ah-ha, and here we have the solution - the presence of the gnome component. - result :)
Thank you - that gave me the solution
Glad to be helpful :)
[BTW - I am __completely__ overwhelmed by 'man rpm' -- it lists far too many parameters, and my eyes simply glaze over. What Linux needs is not a 'reference' but a 'users guide' (i.e., cookbook) that tells what EXACTLY should be typed in for EVERYDAY use. By the time 'man rpm' tells me I need to specify the formatting of what I want 'rpm' to show, I just give up on the whole thing.]
They are out there, look out for the forthcoming SuSE Bible especially, written by the venerable Roger Whittaker and Justin Davies.
Do I hear people saying: "It is easy to use Linux" ?
Depends on your definition of easy ;-) It's easier to do really really cool stuff with Linux - I mean, who wouldn't want software specifically built for their system? :) I think I need to go to bed... -- James Ogley james@rubberturnip.org.uk http://rubberturnip.org.uk
On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 02:37:39PM +0100, James Ogley wrote:
I've addressed as many as possible in my blog (http://rubberturnip.org.uk/cgi-bin/blog/2004/09/29#20040929) and if any further ones come in, I'll do the same. My blog is also included in Planet SuSE (www.planetsuse.org).
Like many of us I am very grateful for the 2.8 package you have made. I find that everything works but I have no icons, even in apps like galeon or sol I only have the little box with an x in it. Gnome-control-center does have about half its icons. I erased ~/.gnome* and ~/.gconf* as well as everything in /tmp but still no icons. Any suggestions about how to get them back? Thanks, Henry Harpending
On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 10:40:59AM -0600, Henry Harpending wrote:
On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 02:37:39PM +0100, James Ogley wrote:
I've addressed as many as possible in my blog (http://rubberturnip.org.uk/cgi-bin/blog/2004/09/29#20040929) and if any further ones come in, I'll do the same. My blog is also included in Planet SuSE (www.planetsuse.org).
Like many of us I am very grateful for the 2.8 package you have made. I find that everything works but I have no icons, even in apps like galeon or sol I only have the little box with an x in it. Gnome-control-center does have about half its icons.
I erased ~/.gnome* and ~/.gconf* as well as everything in /tmp but still no icons.
Any suggestions about how to get them back?
Reinstallation of all the theme packages brought them back. HCH
I was wondering - if anyone has had any luck with ULB Gnome 2.8 on SuSE 9.1 AMD64?? I am a little concerned at the amount of "changes" apt wants to do to get my system running with 2.8 (see below)... And am wondering if this has anythign to do with running on AMD64-based laptop (emachines m6811) (this is after an update of course) thanks Kat __________________________________________ # apt-get -f upgrade Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Correcting dependencies... Done The following packages will be upgraded OpenOffice_org OpenOffice_org-Quickstarter cdrecord dvd+rw-tools gail gftp gkrellm glib2-devel gnome-mime-data gnome-themes gqview gtk2-engines gtkhtml2-devel kdeaddons3-kate kdeaddons3-kicker kdeartwork3-sound kdebase3-extra kdebase3-kdm kdebase3-samba kdegraphics3-postscript kdemultimedia3-CD kdenetwork3-InstantMessenger kdenetwork3-news kdeutils3-laptop libdvdnav libglade2 libgnomecanvas libgtkhtml libwnck mkisofs pango-devel popt-devel quanta samba-doc scribus sensors startup-notification subversion taglib The following packages will be REMOVED: BASS CheckHardware Geramik ImageMagick MozillaFirefox MozillaThunderbird QtPixmap abiword alsa-tools-gui alsaplayer awesfx bbtools-gui bluefish bonobo control-center control-center2 cryptplug dia digikam directory_administrator eel enchant eog epiphany epiphany-plugins ethereal evolution fluidsynth freeciv gaim gal2 galeon gconf-editor gdk-pixbuf-gnome gdm gedit ggv ghex gimp gimp-cmyk gnome-applets gnome-desktop gnome-libs gnome-panel gnome-pilot gnome-print gnome-session gnome-spell gnome-spell2 gnome-system-monitor gnome-terminal gnome-utils gnome-vfs-extras gnome-vfs2 gnucash gnumeric gpdf gpsdrive gstreamer gstreamer-plugins gstreamer-plugins-default gtkam gtkhtml gtkhtml2 gtksourceview gtkspell gucharmap hp-officeJet irssi irssi-extra jack k3b kaffeine kdeaddons3-konqueror kdeadmin3 kdeartwork3 kdeartwork3-xscreensaver kdebase3 kdebase3-SuSE kdebase3-nsplugin kdebluetooth kdegames3 kdegraphics3 kdegraphics3-fax kdegraphics3-kamera kdemultimedia3 kdemultimedia3-jukebox kdemultimedia3-sound kdenetwork3 kdenetwork3-vnc kdepim3 kdepim3-kpilot kdepim3-organizer kdeutils3 kio_slp kismet knights kpowersave krecord kwintv libbonoboui libdv libexif-gtk libgda libglade libgnome libgnomedb libgnomeprint libgnomeprintui libgnomeui libgsf libgsf-gnome libgtop librsvg libsoup libwmf libzvt linc liquid metacity mlterm mozilla mozilla-calendar mozilla-mail muse myldapklient mysqlcc nautilus nautilus-cd-burner nautilus-gtkhtml nautilus-media newpg obconf openbox perl-Gtk-Perl pinentry python-gtk rekall rekall-mysql rekall-postgresql rekall-xbase sane sax2 thinkeramik timidity tinyca tsclient vte wv xine-extra xine-lib xine-ui xmms-gnome2 xmms-kde xsane xscreensaver xscreensaver-gnome xsu yast2-control-center yast2-qt yelp The following NEW packages will be installed: hspell libcroco libidl-32bit libieee1284 libtheora qca shared-mime-info The following packages have been kept back alsa alsa-tools arts atk atk-devel gconf2 glib2 gnome-icon-theme gtk2 gtk2-devel kdebase3-ksysguardd kdelibs3 libao libart_lgpl libbonobo libxml2 libxslt orbit2 pango qt3 speex 39 upgraded, 7 newly installed, 161 removed and 21 not upgraded. Need to get 95.5MB/105MB of archives. After unpacking 749MB disk space will be freed.
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