-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Content-ID: <alpine.LSU.2.00.0810271942220.4842@nimrodel.valinor> El 2008-10-27 a las 11:06 -0400, Anton Aylward escribió: I believe this should be on list, not off

Carlos E. R. said the following on 10/27/2008 04:36 AM

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You still need to recompile many apps to not include ldap support, and one of the things that opensuse boasts about, is ldap integration.

The subtext of what you have been saying is that openSUSE is not a desktop packaging of Linux but is intended for corporate servers. not even corporate workstations - leaf nodes, but the servers. With full IT support.

Not at all. I know of even home setups using ldap. The idea is that you should be able to use Yast as a wizzard to set it all up. However, I was talking about ldap client integration, that's the only part that is necesary. And clients are the desktop or mobile machine part, not the server part.

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Yes, pam may use plugins, but other apps don't.

That is not the case. Postfix uses plug-in (and so does Firefox and Thunderbird, but that's another issue). So does Apache. So do a number of programs that use audio and video codec, such as k3b, the CD burner.

In fact one of the plug-in for Apache is to enable LDAP, you you can't even argue that the idea of LDAP plug-in is unique to Postfix. I'm sure if I dig a bit I could find other examples.

* postfix-mysql - postfix plugin to support MySQL maps * postfix-postgresql - postfix plugin to support PostgreSQL maps

Someone made the decision to hard-wire in LDAP and not to hard-wire MySQL and PostGres.

Possibly. As I said, suse boasts of ldap integration, so that's a feature :-p [postfix and ldap]

so that option only becomes effective when the configuration needs to be shared between a number of hosts that all refer to the single 'database' on the shared LDAP server, which means that this integration of LDAP

No, that's not the case. For postfix ldap is used, in combination with the imap server, as a virtual users database, on the same machine. And no, I don't like ldap. But I simply don't care about its inclussion.

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So I don't think it will be done.

You reasoning is based on your assertion that its not possible and that other programs don't use plug-in. This is false.

The only reason it will not be done is if the packagers remain intransigent. I asked earlier who they were and got no reply.

You just have to look a field in the rpms. Just use the official channel, fill a bugzilla. There is also a packaging list, where you can argue with the people that package and know the whys.

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However, anybody could create a project in the buildservice doing just that: recompile all those apps that use ldap, without.

I'm not to openSUSE so perhaps you'd grace me with a URL :-)

I'm not a user of the buildservice, so I don't _really_ know how it works. Just go to the main web site, and enter "buildservice" as a search term, surely it comes out with a bunch of pages with help on that. No, forget it. Just go to the main opensuse.org page, it is one of the three big links there.

Even so, I no more want to spend my life rebuilding openSUSE than I want to spend my life trying out each of the 139 LiveCD that are listed at http://www.livecdlist.com

Sure! :-) - -- Saludos Carlos E.R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkkGDQ4ACgkQtTMYHG2NR9XN8ACePsvFPlc97un/DAELCks3snol 5BwAn1dRTwRNedZnK2GQALKBcSGD/mN8 =eaej -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----