No, your not stupid. YOU only updates things from the update directory and KDE 2.2.1 is in this directory ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/ What you should do is this...cd into tmp and make these directories.... base dev apps Then use a client such as ncftp or gftp..heck even Konqueror..and download each set of rpms from the directories on the ftp site..they are brokendown into directories like the ones you've made. You should then use yast1 to install them one directory at a time...letting SuSEconfig run after each install. This way things don't get hosed. The 2.2.1 RPM's are not part of the default for any distribution release accept 7.3 so they won't be in the update directory. They are just provided as a service if you wish to install them. Install in this order.... base dev apps If you do it this way then you should have a problem. BTW..I download and install everything..just so I miss nothing. And with the size of harddrives today and how cheap there are...I don't worry about it. Hope this helps a bit. * geek@PageZero.com (geek@PageZero.com) [011021 15:10]: ->I suspect that i am merely stupid and that this is the reason i cannot ->figure out how to do an online update to the latest KDE release. It is ->my assumption that i need to provide a directory string at ftp.suse.com, ->but can't for the life of me figurre out what it is. Although i can ->find the files, yast2 can't, and i never seem to be able to download the ->right files in the right order to just run the rpm's myself. For the ->sake of my crumbling self-esteem, can someone please help me. -> ->bc -> ->-- ->To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com ->For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com ->Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq and the ->archives at http://lists.suse.com -> -- Ben Rosenberg mailto:ben@whack.org ----- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin

i have noticed other folks complaining of ftp installations failing shortly after yast announces that it's going to look for a braille device. this has happened quite a few times, now, to me. i finally realized that the rpm downloads were going much too fast and that apparently they are not being downloaded at all. i booted the boot.iso cd image and have tried installations from both suse.com and georgia tech. i am trying to upgrade a 7.2 system to 8.0 and at this point, thanks to some deletions the installation program made, i reckon i'm running about 7.1 1/2. if no one has any suggestions, i'm going to have to reinstall 7.2. bc

there's probably a yast module that takes care of this, but what i always do is log in as root and edit the file /etc/inittab. there will be a line, (probably the first non-comment line), that looks like this id:5:initdefault: this sets your default run level to 5, which is the graphical login. you want your default run level to be 3, (multi-user with network), so you'll want to make the line look like this id:3:initdefault: save the file and the next time you boot up you'll start in a text console. in the meantime, while still root type the command telinit 3, to change you system to runlevel 3. best of luck, bc