hello! when i run many programs my xserver restars!!!! ->logout and i have to login again! Some times my xserver restarts even if i don't run any program !!!does anybody have any idea about my problem? i run memtest and i didn't have any problem.... does anybody have any idea????? -- Na xaireste to Linux kai ti Zwi! University of Thessaly Computer and Communications Engineering Dept. (C.C.E.)
Hi Next thing would be to slow things down a little in BIOS.. ie. set memory-speed and processor speed a bit slower, and see if it has any effect. I had similar problem when I had tuned the BIOS to get maximum speed.. I had to slow down a bit, and now it is working 100% again. Jaska. Viestissä Keskiviikko 11. Joulukuuta 2002 00:10, Nikos Fraggogiannis kirjoitti:
hello! when i run many programs my xserver restars!!!! ->logout and i have to login again! Some times my xserver restarts even if i don't run any program !!!does anybody have any idea about my problem?
i run memtest and i didn't have any problem.... does anybody have any idea?????
This cannot be / is not normal. Since when do you have to under-clock your computer to get stability? What CPU/motherboard combo are you using? Hell, here on my box, I'm running an overclocked 1.6GHz AthlonXP CPU w/ overclocked PC2700 RAM on an overclocked NVidia Ti500. No problems. At least it's "working 100% again", right? On Wednesday 11 December 2002 05:26, jaakko tamminen wrote:
Hi
Next thing would be to slow things down a little in BIOS.. ie. set memory-speed and processor speed a bit slower, and see if it has any effect.
I had similar problem when I had tuned the BIOS to get maximum speed.. I had to slow down a bit, and now it is working 100% again.
-- Karol Pietrzak <noodlez84@earthlink.net> PGP KeyID: 3A1446A0
Dear Karol, This is said in the mildest, least confrontational manner, please do not regard this a "Troll Bait". :0) Overclocking is the premier way to create unstability. The manufacturers have made the most emphatic statements that the Official stated clock frequencies are the recommended MAX. I know of no chip brand that does NOT VOID their warrantee for overclocking. The mainframe manufacturers actually 'underclock' systems that are sold to customers that DEMAND reliability. On overclocked systems the errors that occur most are the most difficult to diagnose and resolve. Intermittant, random lockups, hangs, seg faults, corrupted data are only the start of the catalog of greif caused by chips stressed to their limit of reliability. Even one in a billion bytes of data corrupted can be stored and propagated into other apps and data. PC usually do NOT use ECC RAM so there is little or no chance that corrupted data will always be detected. Have you ever heard of a computer that printed a check for millions of $'s instead of tens of $'s? I have. Overclocking is a concept promoted by Marketeers to gull the unsuspecting gullable customers; it has the ring of "Something forr Free". IMHO :0} ......... PeterB On Tuesday 10 December 2002 04:32 pm, Karol Pietrzak wrote:
This cannot be / is not normal. Since when do you have to under-clock your computer to get stability? What CPU/motherboard combo are you using?
Hell, here on my box, I'm running an overclocked 1.6GHz AthlonXP CPU w/ overclocked PC2700 RAM on an overclocked NVidia Ti500. No problems.
At least it's "working 100% again", right?
On Wednesday 11 December 2002 05:26, jaakko tamminen wrote:
Hi
Next thing would be to slow things down a little in BIOS.. ie. set memory-speed and processor speed a bit slower, and see if it has any effect.
I had similar problem when I had tuned the BIOS to get maximum speed.. I had to slow down a bit, and now it is working 100% again.
-- -- Proud to be a SuSE Linux User since 5.2 --
On Tuesday 10 December 2002 19:39, Peter B Van Campen wrote:
Dear Karol,
Hello Peter...
This is said in the mildest, least confrontational manner, please do not regard this a "Troll Bait". :0)
Overclocking is the premier way to create unstability.
Absolutely.... if you don't know what you're doing.
The manufacturers have made the most emphatic statements that the Official stated clock frequencies are the recommended MAX. I know of no chip brand that does NOT VOID their warrantee for overclocking.
True.
The mainframe manufacturers actually 'underclock' systems that are sold to customers that DEMAND reliability.
Although I don't know much, if anything, about mainframes, I can surely understand the logic behind that decision.
On overclocked systems the errors that occur most are the most difficult to diagnose and resolve. Intermittant, random lockups, hangs, seg faults, corrupted data are only the start of the catalog of greif caused by chips stressed to their limit of reliability.
I actually had all those things you specify on my PC. No, not this one, but my old Pentium I PC whose fans died (all the fans: CPU, PS, etc.).
Even one in a billion bytes of data corrupted can be stored and propagated into other apps and data. PC usually do NOT use ECC RAM so there is little or no chance that corrupted data will always be detected. Have you ever heard of a computer that printed a check for millions of $'s instead of tens of $'s? I have.
FYI, I don't have ECC RAM in this PC.
Overclocking is a concept promoted by Marketeers to gull the unsuspecting gullable customers; it has the ring of "Something forr Free".
Who exactly do you mean by "Marketeers"? Certainly not the company representatives (e.g., you want 100 more MHz? pay $100 more). After all, no mainstream PC vendor (e.g., Dell, Gateway) overclocks any parts of their PC. Like I said, overclocking can be very dangerous if you do not know what you are going. Frankly, I do. When I put together this PC, I bought each part individually. Knowing full well that I would want to overclock my CPU/RAM/video card/etc, I bought parts which could withstand it. 340W AMD recommended P/S. Thermalright AX7 heatsink. Arctic Silver 3 thermal paste. Nice fan with a speed control. Crucial RAM. Nice EPoX motherboard. etc. Having little cash to throw around and wanting financially-free speed boosts, overclocking is the way to go. Like I said, this is certainly not for those who don't know what they are doing. Of course, I read reviews (places like Anandtech, Overclockers.com, etc.) that tell me how far my parts can go. That said, I have experienced no instability as a result of my overclocking. -- Karol Pietrzak <noodlez84@earthlink.net> PGP KeyID: 3A1446A0
On Tuesday 10 December 2002 4:39 pm, Peter B Van Campen wrote: [...]
The mainframe manufacturers actually 'underclock' systems that are sold to customers that DEMAND reliability.
I know of one "mainframe" manufacturer that underclocks for reasons related wholly to marketing $$$: HP. HP has two lines of "business class" computers: the HP3000 series and the HP9000 series. The 3000 series uses a proprietary OS called MPE/iX while the 9000 series uses HP-UX. "for quite some time now", the -ONLY- difference between a series 3000 system and a series 9000 system has been the inclusion of a bit of "firmware" on the 3000 side that enabled the MPE/iX OS to load. The CPU is EXACTLY the same in all other regards except one: the latest "offering" from HP for the 3000 line are dubbed "A-class" and "N-class" and use the latest PA-RISC cpu's. Between the A and N classes, the CPU's themselves are rated at the same speed [roughly between 400 and 500mhz, I believe -- remember, these are RISC cpu's, so 500mhz is actually screaming] but the "A-class" series 3000 is "clock-crippled" to operate at 110mhz, mainly to make an "N-class" system that more attractive. If that were the entire story, this would make sense [i.e., they offer a lower capability machine for less $$$, even though the CPU is the same -- you're basically not paying for "full use" of the cpu cycles] Unfortunately, the story doesn't end there: as I mentioned, an A-class processor for the 3000 line runs at a crippled speed, BUT THE CORRESPONDING A-class series 9000 system runs at full speed! What's worse, is that the "crippled" 3000 costs MORE than the full-speed 9000. [the irony of the whole situtation is that even WITH the crippled clock speed, the MPE/iX based system can outperform the same HP-UX system running at full speed] The saddest part of this whole saga is the fact that, in their "infinite" wisdom, HP has cancelled the 3000 line in their quest to become another "me-too" windows NT distributor. (or would that be "infinitesimal" wisdom?)
I have an AMD Athlon at 1200MHz and a QDI kinetiz 7E-A motherboard. My processor is not overclocked . Now, I turned the System Memory from 133MHz to 100 MHz. OS:SuSE 8.1 Does anybody find a good idea to remove the driver for the VGA(NVidia TNT2) If somebody has any idea about my problem::::::::: when i run many programs my xserver restars!!!! ->logout and i have to login again! Some times my xserver restarts even if i don't run any program !!!does anybody have any idea about my problem? i run memtest and i didn't have any problem.... please let send me a reply. please let send a e-mail
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