[opensuse] Poor network performance on 42.2
I recently installed 42.2 on both my desktop and notebook systems. I noticed accessing the internet seemed slower than usual, so I tried running speedtest.net. I have a 60/10 Mb plan and generally get mid 70s download and about 11 up. When I ran speedtest, I was now getting 10 - 15 Mb down, with the usual 11 or so up. I then rebooted my notebook computer into Windows 10 and was able to get 77.39 Mb down. This is on the same computer that a few minutes earlier hadn't even managed 10 in 42.2. Why is the performance so bad in 42.2??? Again, this is happening on two separate computers, one of which gets normal performance when running Windows 10. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
James Knott wrote:
I recently installed 42.2 on both my desktop and notebook systems. I noticed accessing the internet seemed slower than usual, so I tried running speedtest.net. I have a 60/10 Mb plan and generally get mid 70s download and about 11 up. When I ran speedtest, I was now getting 10-15 Mb down, with the usual 11 or so up. I then rebooted my notebook computer into Windows 10 and was able to get 77.39 Mb down. This is on the same computer that a few minutes earlier hadn't even managed 10 in 42.2. Why is the performance so bad in 42.2???
Possibly a network interface driver issue? I don't see such poor performance in 422 myself. Downloading the openSUSE iso comes down at 60-70Mb per second, with peaks at up 110MB/s (according to wget). -- Per Jessen, Zürich (4.8°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - your free DNS host, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/11/2016 02:06 PM, Per Jessen wrote:
Possibly a network interface driver issue?
Well, it would be a driver issue on 2 entirely different systems, one desktop and one ThinkPad. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
James Knott wrote:
On 12/11/2016 02:06 PM, Per Jessen wrote:
Possibly a network interface driver issue?
Well, it would be a driver issue on 2 entirely different systems, one desktop and one ThinkPad.
If it happens to be the same network hardware, that sounds reasonable. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (3.1°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - dedicated server rental in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/12/2016 01:35 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
James Knott wrote:
On 12/11/2016 02:06 PM, Per Jessen wrote:
Possibly a network interface driver issue? Well, it would be a driver issue on 2 entirely different systems, one desktop and one ThinkPad. If it happens to be the same network hardware, that sounds reasonable.
It turns out to be a Firefox problem. Chromium works fine. It also works better with Firefox using the HTML5 version of the speedtest site. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
James Knott wrote:
On 12/12/2016 01:35 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
James Knott wrote:
On 12/11/2016 02:06 PM, Per Jessen wrote:
Possibly a network interface driver issue? Well, it would be a driver issue on 2 entirely different systems, one desktop and one ThinkPad. If it happens to be the same network hardware, that sounds reasonable.
It turns out to be a Firefox problem. Chromium works fine. It also works better with Firefox using the HTML5 version of the speedtest site.
I was wondering and wanted to ask if you'd tested with something else, but I forgot. I often find it's easier to gauge the speed with wget from a known well-connected site. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (5.9°C) http://www.cloudsuisse.com/ - your owncloud, hosted in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/11/2016 10:15 AM, James Knott wrote:
I recently installed 42.2 on both my desktop and notebook systems. I noticed accessing the internet seemed slower than usual, so I tried running speedtest.net. I have a 60/10 Mb plan and generally get mid 70s download and about 11 up. When I ran speedtest, I was now getting 10 - 15 Mb down, with the usual 11 or so up. I then rebooted my notebook computer into Windows 10 and was able to get 77.39 Mb down. This is on the same computer that a few minutes earlier hadn't even managed 10 in 42.2. Why is the performance so bad in 42.2???
Again, this is happening on two separate computers, one of which gets normal performance when running Windows 10.
Is this on wifi or cat5? I get very near my purchased speed on cat5 consistently, and less consistent results on wifi (sitting 10 feet from the wifi AP). But every once in a while on wifi I get very low results. I blame that on the wifi. I use both http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest and http://www.speedtest.net/ -- After all is said and done, more is said than done. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/11/2016 11:28 AM, James Knott wrote:
On 12/11/2016 02:26 PM, John Andersen wrote:
Is this on wifi or cat5?
Ethernet. I know enough to not do speedtest on WiFi.
Really? I do speed tests all the time on WIFI as well as Cat5. Does your nic require microcode? (Binary Blob). Usually its only the late model nics that do, although my 7 year old wifi didn't work until I installed the microcode package. -- After all is said and done, more is said than done. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/11/2016 02:34 PM, John Andersen wrote:
On 12/11/2016 11:28 AM, James Knott wrote:
On 12/11/2016 02:26 PM, John Andersen wrote:
Is this on wifi or cat5? Ethernet. I know enough to not do speedtest on WiFi.
Really? I do speed tests all the time on WIFI as well as Cat5. Does your nic require microcode? (Binary Blob). Usually its only the late model nics that do, although my 7 year old wifi didn't work until I installed the microcode package.
WiFi is one more variable that can affect results. It may often be fine, but also often not. With Internet bandwidth approaching or even exceeding WiFi bandwidth, it can become a limiting factor, that wired Ethernet doesn't have (yet). I bought the ThinkPad 5 years ago and the mom board about 2. I've never needed a binary blob in either before. However, further testing indicates it's a Firefox issue, as Chromium runs fine with speedtest. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/11/2016 01:15 PM, James Knott wrote:
Again, this is happening on two separate computers, one of which gets normal performance when running Windows 10.
It appears I may have to rephrase my question. I just tried again with Chromium, which runs fine (76 Mb down). I had previously used Firefox, including on W10, so the question now becomes why is Firefox on Linux performance so bad? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/11/2016 11:35 AM, James Knott wrote:
On 12/11/2016 01:15 PM, James Knott wrote:
Again, this is happening on two separate computers, one of which gets normal performance when running Windows 10.
It appears I may have to rephrase my question. I just tried again with Chromium, which runs fine (76 Mb down). I had previously used Firefox, including on W10, so the question now becomes why is Firefox on Linux performance so bad?
Flash based speedtest? try http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest its pure html5. -- After all is said and done, more is said than done. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/11/2016 02:38 PM, John Andersen wrote:
On 12/11/2016 11:35 AM, James Knott wrote:
On 12/11/2016 01:15 PM, James Knott wrote:
Again, this is happening on two separate computers, one of which gets normal performance when running Windows 10.
It appears I may have to rephrase my question. I just tried again with Chromium, which runs fine (76 Mb down). I had previously used Firefox, including on W10, so the question now becomes why is Firefox on Linux performance so bad?
Flash based speedtest? try http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest its pure html5.
That shows about 48 Mb, though that may be due to location. Chromium shows about the same (~76 Mb) using speedtest with both flash and html5. I normally use my ISPs speedtest.net site, which is just a few Km from my home. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/11/2016 11:48 AM, James Knott wrote:
I normally use my ISPs speedtest.net site, which is just a few Km from my home. Many ISPs just hand that task off to OOkla, which defaults to trying to use flash (idiots).
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On 12/11/2016 02:53 PM, John Andersen wrote:
On 12/11/2016 11:48 AM, James Knott wrote:
I normally use my ISPs speedtest.net site, which is just a few Km from my home. Many ISPs just hand that task off to OOkla, which defaults to trying to use flash (idiots).
It's definitely OOkla, but my ISP is shown by name & city on the map where you can select the server. There is also a HTML5 version from them. They currently call it beta, but I expect it will become official shortly. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* James Knott <james.knott@rogers.com> [12-11-16 15:01]:
On 12/11/2016 02:53 PM, John Andersen wrote:
On 12/11/2016 11:48 AM, James Knott wrote:
I normally use my ISPs speedtest.net site, which is just a few Km from my home. Many ISPs just hand that task off to OOkla, which defaults to trying to use flash (idiots).
It's definitely OOkla, but my ISP is shown by name & city on the map where you can select the server. There is also a HTML5 version from them. They currently call it beta, but I expect it will become official shortly.
this is strictly html5: http://speedof.me/ -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/11/2016 04:29 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
On 12/11/2016 02:53 PM, John Andersen wrote:
On 12/11/2016 11:48 AM, James Knott wrote:
I normally use my ISPs speedtest.net site, which is just a few Km from my home. Many ISPs just hand that task off to OOkla, which defaults to trying to use flash (idiots).
It's definitely OOkla, but my ISP is shown by name & city on the map where you can select the server. There is also a HTML5 version from them. They currently call it beta, but I expect it will become official shortly.
* James Knott <james.knott@rogers.com> [12-11-16 15:01]: this is strictly html5: http://speedof.me/
I can use either flash or html5 on the site I normally use. However, the question remains why Firefox performance is so bad. Even doing other things, it seems sluggish. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On December 11, 2016 1:45:33 PM PST, James Knott <james.knott@rogers.com> wrote:
* James Knott <james.knott@rogers.com> [12-11-16 15:01]:
On 12/11/2016 02:53 PM, John Andersen wrote:
On 12/11/2016 11:48 AM, James Knott wrote:
I normally use my ISPs speedtest.net site, which is just a few Km from my home. Many ISPs just hand that task off to OOkla, which defaults to
On 12/11/2016 04:29 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote: trying to use flash (idiots).
It's definitely OOkla, but my ISP is shown by name & city on the map where you can select the server. There is also a HTML5 version from them. They currently call it beta, but I expect it will become official shortly. this is strictly html5: http://speedof.me/
I can use either flash or html5 on the site I normally use. However, the question remains why Firefox performance is so bad. Even doing other things, it seems sluggish.
Firefox has had subpar performance for years, why be surprised now? Blink engine is amazing and there are several browsers available that use it. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/11/2016 05:12 PM, John Andersen wrote:
Firefox has had subpar performance for years, why be surprised now?
I know it hasn't been the greatest and I frequently had to kill it to restore performance, but it seems much worse now. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/11/2016 02:38 PM, John Andersen wrote:
Flash based speedtest? try http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest its pure html5.
It definitely appears to be flash that's causing the problem. If I use the regular site, in Firefox, I get pathetic performance. With the beta site & Firefox, I get the expected performance. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/11/2016 01:15 PM, James Knott wrote:
Again, this is happening on two separate computers, one of which gets normal performance when running Windows 10.
It appears I may have to rephrase my question. I just tried again with Chromium, which runs fine (76 Mb down). I had previously used Firefox, including on W10, so the question now becomes why is Firefox on Linux performance so bad? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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