[opensuse] Two telephone-related problems -- Repost
I want both the fax program and the addressbook to be able to use the same
modem. There are two problems:
1) The fax program (Primafax) sends faxes like a champ. It doesn't receive
faxes at all. As I obesrved when trying to send my self a fax from a
public machine, my fax program picks up the line after several rings,
then does nothing -- no negotiation. The sending machine reports that the
receiving machine failed, but has nothing diagnostic to add; my receiving
machine makes no mention of the incident in its own log at all.
My fax program is set to send and receive on /dev/ttyS0. This are the
lines in
Stan Goodman wrote:
I want both the fax program and the addressbook to be able to use the same modem. There are two problems:
1) The fax program (Primafax) sends faxes like a champ. It doesn't receive faxes at all. As I obesrved when trying to send my self a fax from a public machine, my fax program picks up the line after several rings, then does nothing -- no negotiation. The sending machine reports that the receiving machine failed, but has nothing diagnostic to add; my receiving machine makes no mention of the incident in its own log at all.
My fax program is set to send and receive on /dev/ttyS0. This are the lines in
relevant to that port: ***** chmod a+rw /dev/ttyS0 setserial /dev/ttyS0 *****
What might the problem be?
With hylafax our setup is: # fax getty (hylafax) mo:35:respawn:/usr/lib/fax/faxgetty /dev/ttyS1 It just works like a charm and handles data calls and provides IP forwarding to the internet and back as well and is then respawned to be ready for the next call.
can't help with #2.
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On Wednesday 05 March 2008 10:06:12 David C. Rankin wrote: Thank you for taking the trouble to write.
Stan Goodman wrote:
I want both the fax program and the addressbook to be able to use the same modem. There are two problems:
1) The fax program (Primafax) sends faxes like a champ. It doesn't receive faxes at all. As I obesrved when trying to send my self a fax from a public machine, my fax program picks up the line after several rings, then does nothing -- no negotiation. The sending machine reports that the receiving machine failed, but has nothing diagnostic to add; my receiving machine makes no mention of the incident in its own log at all.
My fax program is set to send and receive on /dev/ttyS0. This are the lines in
relevant to that port: ***** chmod a+rw /dev/ttyS0 setserial /dev/ttyS0 *****
What might the problem be?
With hylafax our setup is:
# fax getty (hylafax) mo:35:respawn:/usr/lib/fax/faxgetty /dev/ttyS1
The only part of the above that is not specific to HylaFAX is exactly what I have.
It just works like a charm and handles data calls and provides IP forwarding to the internet and back as well and is then respawned to be ready for the next call.
Surely there must be an answer to what actually exists here. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2008-03-04 at 20:30 +0200, Stan Goodman wrote:
1) The fax program (Primafax) sends faxes like a champ. It doesn't receive faxes at all. As I obesrved when trying to send my self a fax from a public machine, my fax program picks up the line after several rings, then does nothing -- no negotiation. The sending machine reports that the receiving machine failed, but has nothing diagnostic to add; my receiving machine makes no mention of the incident in its own log at all.
It could be something peculiar to that program, and I've never used it. My guess is that your modem is set to autoanswer, not the program: thus the program doesn't log the event.
When I click on a telephone number, jpilot-dial emits a convincing series of dialling tones, but nothing else happens. There is no flicker of LEDs on the modem's front panel, and the state of the telephone line does not change.
Where do those tones come from? The modem or the PC loudspeaker?
The jpilot-dial program has nothing in the way of settings about matching the dialer with the port, so I have no idea if it even knows what port it should be trying to reach.
I haven't used such a program, either. Maybe it expects you to lift the phone previous to the program dialing? - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHzpDptTMYHG2NR9URAmDSAJ92chmsBtFtY8TrKfX0rLLL0kMmDQCgjIoG McuMsCYqYcxZh+rGxhBdtqs= =8irk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 05 March 2008 14:23:58 Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Tuesday 2008-03-04 at 20:30 +0200, Stan Goodman wrote:
1) The fax program (Primafax) sends faxes like a champ. It doesn't receive faxes at all. As I obesrved when trying to send my self a fax from a public machine, my fax program picks up the line after several rings, then does nothing -- no negotiation. The sending machine reports that the receiving machine failed, but has nothing diagnostic to add; my receiving machine makes no mention of the incident in its own log at all.
It could be something peculiar to that program, and I've never used it. My guess is that your modem is set to autoanswer, not the program: thus the program doesn't log the event.
Ah. That is easy to check. I'll look into it later today, and report on what I find. Primafax is an alias for PMfax, an admirable program originally for OS/2; this is the Linux port. Felix Miata knows about the original.
When I click on a telephone number, jpilot-dial emits a convincing series of dialling tones, but nothing else happens. There is no flicker of LEDs on the modem's front panel, and the state of the telephone line does not change.
Where do those tones come from? The modem or the PC loudspeaker?
The modem doesn't have a speaker. I think the sound is coming through the audio system, not the PC speaker. My hearing is not what it once was, and I will need to try harder to localize it. Once everything is working, I'll kill the sound altogether, if I can find a way to do that (the lack of options in jpilot is deplorable).
The jpilot-dial program has nothing in the way of settings about matching the dialer with the port, so I have no idea if it even knows what port it should be trying to reach.
I haven't used such a program, either.
I am using it at the suggestion of Charles Chan, who helped with some other details as well. If there is a suggestion about some other dialer that I can hook onto Kaddressbook instead, I'll be happy to try it. I'm sure the KDE team had a reason for not giving Kaddressbook its own dialer, though I can't think what it might have been.
Maybe it expects you to lift the phone previous to the program dialing?
That is what I have been doing. Doesn't work, and the dialtone continues undisturbed. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Wednesday 2008-03-05 at 15:50 +0200, Stan Goodman wrote: ...
Where do those tones come from? The modem or the PC loudspeaker?
The modem doesn't have a speaker.
Weird! I thought that was mandatory.
I think the sound is coming through the audio system, not the PC speaker. My hearing is not what it once was, and I will need to try harder to localize it. Once everything is working, I'll kill the sound altogether, if I can find a way to do that (the lack of options in jpilot is deplorable).
I think it's best to let the modem produce some sound, because it helps to know what it is doing; if you suddenly hear a voice comming from there you know you sent the fax to the wrong number ;-)
The jpilot-dial program has nothing in the way of settings about matching the dialer with the port, so I have no idea if it even knows what port it should be trying to reach.
I haven't used such a program, either.
I am using it at the suggestion of Charles Chan, who helped with some other details as well. If there is a suggestion about some other dialer that I can hook onto Kaddressbook instead, I'll be happy to try it. I'm sure the KDE team had a reason for not giving Kaddressbook its own dialer, though I can't think what it might have been.
I have no idea. Of course, I understand the advantage of such a gadget, dialing from the address book in the computer, specially if you have an office and hundreds of clients or supliers. I have seen and tried that setup in windows, years ago. I wonder why it is not easy to do in linux. But I haven't even tried. Perhaps a script could be don with 'expect' and some other program, perhaps 'cu', as a simple dialer.
Maybe it expects you to lift the phone previous to the program dialing?
That is what I have been doing. Doesn't work, and the dialtone continues undisturbed.
Then it is not dialing on the correct port. Mmmm... I did a search for "dialer" in the distro, using "pin", and found "/usr/lib/ooo-2.0/devel/solver/680/unxlngi6.pro/inc/offuh/com/sun/star/telephony/DIALER". I don't have that installed, no idea what it is. It's part of "OpenOffice_org-devel", might be interesting to investigate. There is another "dialer" thing in "uucp-1.07-348.i586.rpm", a file named "/usr/share/doc/packages/uucp/cfg_example/hdb_config/Dialers.ex" (not installed). And a "/usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/userguide/kppp-dialer-tab.png". And: ./DVD2/suse/i586/diald-1.0-441.i586.rpm: Summary : Automatic Dialer for PPP and SLIP I can't look them up right now, but perhaps you can invetigate :-? Hopefully one of them could be what you ned. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHzsWetTMYHG2NR9URApTVAJ93cRymOwVPOGl05CH1p1k823D0kgCgkXkp Win0zIcz/WVBOinVlxIugYw= =1BwB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 05 March 2008 18:08:55 Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Wednesday 2008-03-05 at 15:50 +0200, Stan Goodman wrote:
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Where do those tones come from? The modem or the PC loudspeaker?
The modem doesn't have a speaker.
Weird! I thought that was mandatory.
I keep saying that the world has changed. Nobody wants to believe me.I
I think the sound is coming through the audio system, not the PC speaker. My hearing is not what it once was, and I will need to try harder to localize it. Once everything is working, I'll kill the sound altogether, if I can find a way to do that (the lack of options in jpilot is deplorable).
I think it's best to let the modem produce some sound, because it helps to know what it is doing; if you suddenly hear a voice comming from there you know you sent the fax to the wrong number ;-)
I'll think abouit that. At the moment, this is the least of my worries.
The jpilot-dial program has nothing in the way of settings about matching the dialer with the port, so I have no idea if it even knows what port it should be trying to reach.
I haven't used such a program, either.
I am using it at the suggestion of Charles Chan, who helped with some other details as well. If there is a suggestion about some other dialer that I can hook onto Kaddressbook instead, I'll be happy to try it. I'm sure the KDE team had a reason for not giving Kaddressbook its own dialer, though I can't think what it might have been.
I have no idea.
Of course, I understand the advantage of such a gadget, dialing from the address book in the computer, specially if you have an office and hundreds of clients or supliers. I have seen and tried that setup in windows, years ago. I wonder why it is not easy to do in linux. But I haven't even tried.
Perhaps a script could be don with 'expect' and some other program, perhaps 'cu', as a simple dialer.
Maybe it expects you to lift the phone previous to the program dialing?
That is what I have been doing. Doesn't work, and the dialtone continues undisturbed.
Then it is not dialing on the correct port.
Since my previous message I found the configuration after all. It is in jpilot, rather than in jpilot-dial. It claims that it is connected to /dev/ttyS0, which is correct.
Mmmm... I did a search for "dialer" in the distro, using "pin", and found "/usr/lib/ooo-2.0/devel/solver/680/unxlngi6.pro/inc/offuh/com/sun/star/ telephony/DIALER". I don't have that installed, no idea what it is. It's part of "OpenOffice_org-devel", might be interesting to investigate.
I'll look into it. Thanks.
There is another "dialer" thing in "uucp-1.07-348.i586.rpm", a file named "/usr/share/doc/packages/uucp/cfg_example/hdb_config/Dialers.ex" (not installed).
And a "/usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/userguide/kppp-dialer-tab.png".
And: ./DVD2/suse/i586/diald-1.0-441.i586.rpm: Summary : Automatic Dialer for PPP and SLIP
I can't look them up right now, but perhaps you can invetigate :-? Hopefully one of them could be what you ned.
I will.
-- Cheers, Carlos E. R.
-- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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