Re: [opensuse] Top posting is just fine - it's a personal choice thing.
Hey Jan! Your post reads fine by me, but doesn't accurately reflect top posting - that happens at a post level, not at a word level. I was *trying* to be ironic - people are different, and we need to be tolerant and adaptable. I guess it's too late on a Saturday, and I've had some wine after watching England beat France in the rugby. Paul -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
I've had some wine after watching England beat France in the rugby.
The topic should be about wine and sports, that would be more entertaining. =) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Encore that! I'm a Scotsman sitting in Ireland, drinking Californian wine while watching England and France play rugby. ! Frank Hale wrote:
I've had some wine after watching England beat France in the rugby.
The topic should be about wine and sports, that would be more entertaining. =)
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I'm a Scotsman sitting in Ireland, drinking Californian wine while watching England and France play rugby.
Well brag about it, HAHA If I were you I'd be drinking a nice Irish beer. But in any event you sure have the best view right now! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Ran out of Guinness! Wine is next best thing. Wife is English : unbearably smug right now! p. Frank Hale wrote:
I'm a Scotsman sitting in Ireland, drinking Californian wine while watching England and France play rugby.
Well brag about it, HAHA
If I were you I'd be drinking a nice Irish beer. But in any event you sure have the best view right now!
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While I hate to bring this back to topic (I'm a bud man myself), I have nothing against either top or bottom posting. You can make reasonable arguments for either style, therefore it is a matter of choice. One caveat, though: if you bottom post or interthread your responses I would think that you should go out of your way to delete material that you're not commenting on. I think you'd have a major problem if you quoted six paragraphs only to comment on the first one or two. Also, I would be much more worried if you cut the intro line (so-and-so wrote) improperly with the quote. Paul Hands wrote:
Ran out of Guinness! Wine is next best thing.
Wife is English : unbearably smug right now!
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Frank Hale wrote:
I'm a Scotsman sitting in Ireland, drinking Californian wine while watching England and France play rugby.
Well brag about it, HAHA
If I were you I'd be drinking a nice Irish beer. But in any event you sure have the best view right now!
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On Sat, 2007-10-13 at 17:14 -0600, John Meyer wrote:
While I hate to bring this back to topic (I'm a bud man myself), I have nothing against either top or bottom posting. You can make reasonable arguments for either style, therefore it is a matter of choice. One caveat, though: if you bottom post or interthread your responses I would think that you should go out of your way to delete material that you're not commenting on. I think you'd have a major problem if you quoted six paragraphs only to comment on the first one or two. Also, I would be much more worried if you cut the intro line (so-and-so wrote) improperly with the quote.
Just do what I do with the ones that can't to go with the wishes of the majority on this list, create a filter to delete their posts like I just did with you John. I hope some day you don't ask a question I had the answer to cause I'll never see your request. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Kenneth Schneider wrote:
On Sat, 2007-10-13 at 17:14 -0600, John Meyer wrote:
While I hate to bring this back to topic (I'm a bud man myself), I have nothing against either top or bottom posting. You can make reasonable arguments for either style, therefore it is a matter of choice. One caveat, though: if you bottom post or interthread your responses I would think that you should go out of your way to delete material that you're not commenting on. I think you'd have a major problem if you quoted six paragraphs only to comment on the first one or two. Also, I would be much more worried if you cut the intro line (so-and-so wrote) improperly with the quote.
Just do what I do with the ones that can't to go with the wishes of the majority on this list, create a filter to delete their posts like I just did with you John. I hope some day you don't ask a question I had the answer to cause I'll never see your request.
Boy, seems you think a lot of yourself, don't you? Anyway, in as rare as you are, I'm pretty sure I can find somebody else with the answer. Hope you have fun basking in your own overinflated ego. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Just do what I do with the ones that can't to go with the wishes of the majority on this list, create a filter to delete their posts like I just did with you John. I hope some day you don't ask a question I had the answer to cause I'll never see your request.
Boy, seems you think a lot of yourself, don't you? Anyway, in as rare as you are, I'm pretty sure I can find somebody else with the answer. Hope you have fun basking in your own overinflated ego.
It is not a matter of Ken's ego. There are a lot of people with technical skills that will ignore top-posted threads. Not everybody mentions it like Ken did. I would guess that by top-posting you reduce your chance of getting an answer by half. The thing is that this is a technical list where top posting is against the general rule. We ask you nicely not to top post and there are perfectly good reasons for that on a technical list. So, if you deem yourself important enough to ignore that rule then how does that make you any different of what you are accusing Ken of? In my personal opinion, plain bottom posting is also an evil on technical lists. Inline posting makes the most sense on technical lists. Remember that a mailing list like this is a technical resource and the knowledge contained in it is valid for years. Try to solve a problem on SuSE 9.3 for instance. You search the lists and you find a thread that discuss the problem. If people did not follow inline posting, then you would end up scrolling up and down a number of emails in the thread to follow the flow in order to get to the answer you seek. If people followed the preferred posting rules, it is a matter of just following the thread and it reads all logical. No scrolling around. You can normally get the picture with the first glance at the mail and you normally find your answer in the first or second hit. See why we dislike top-posting so much? Nobody can read every email posted to this list. I scan the subjects for interesting threads every now and again. When I find one I go in and see if there is anything I can learn or help with. Most of the time the thread already have a few mails in it and if I have to scroll up and down an email trying to catch the thread of it, I ignore it. Many other people do the same thing and you end up loosing the interest of a lot of people who might have helped you. Not only Ken. -- Andre Truter | Software Consultant | Registered Linux user #185282 Jabber: andre.truter@gmail.com | http://www.trusoft.co.za ~ A dinosaur is a salamander designed to Mil Spec ~ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2007-10-13 at 23:12 -0600, John Meyer wrote:
Just do what I do with the ones that can't to go with the wishes of the majority on this list, create a filter to delete their posts like I just did with you John. I hope some day you don't ask a question I had the answer to cause I'll never see your request.
Boy, seems you think a lot of yourself, don't you? Anyway, in as rare as you are, I'm pretty sure I can find somebody else with the answer. Hope you have fun basking in your own overinflated ego.
You are misguided. Many of the most knowledgeable people will do the same, without bothering to tell you why they ignore your emails. Not your's personally, but those of most topposters. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFHEjE6tTMYHG2NR9URAhXjAJ9HehAbjr7MzABHiLMujXp+AYYnCgCeLQP2 3q/z5wNTGGf1jTBA29bjsP8= =R23P -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Am Sonntag, 14. Oktober 2007 01:14:15 schrieb John Meyer:
You can make reasonable arguments for either style, therefore it is a matter of choice.
No it's not, according to the netiquette[0], we use bottom posting. Period. I'm sick of this old theme, we've it every 3 months(correct me, it's probably even more often..). So please, if you want to participate on this list please hold on to them, otherwise everyone will know you're not caring about it - as we won't do about your problems. Really, I'm sick of this topic, so excuse me if I sound a little huffy. Cheers Michael [0] http://en.opensuse.org/Opensuse_mailing_list_netiquette
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