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Do I dare ask when SUSE will have this available - like via YOU?!

Fred _______________

When is the next SuSE release due out, October?

Fred,

You have been on the list long enough to know that SuSE does not provide updated packages via YOU, only security updates. You can always download the package and install it yourself. Or check into using apt-get.

I've been on the list long enough to KNOW that SUSE should, and that's the point....obviously!

Fred

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On Saturday July 17 2004 2:41 pm, Ben Rosenberg wrote:

On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 12:24:54 -0400, Fred Miller wrote:

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Do I dare ask when SUSE will have this available - like via YOU?!

Come on Fred. You KNOW SUSE doesn't do feature upgrades to shipped software. Unless Gimp-Print had a security bug in it. I doubt this version will be avaiable via YOU. It's the normal drill.. ./configure && make && make install. :)

[snip] Yes, we all know that, Ben. The point is, and it SHOULD happen, is that shipped software updates ARE available via YOU. Fred -- "Ballmer is no more designed for the art of persuasion than the Abrams tank is for delivering meals on wheels."

On Saturday July 17 2004 4:30 pm, Philipp Thomas wrote:

Fred Miller [Sat, 17 Jul 2004 15:00:50 -0400]:

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Yes, we all know that, Ben. The point is, and it SHOULD happen, is that shipped software updates ARE available via YOU.

You know perfectly well that SUSE only does updates for released distributions for security and/or serious non-security bugs.

Good grief! We all know that! That isn't the point.

If at all possible, we try to isolate the fixes and adapt these to the *released* version. Only if this isn't possible, new versions are released. But these cases are *very* rare.

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and it SHOULD happen

I doubt you would be willing to pay the price SUSE would have to charge for a distribution where version updates are guaranteed to work flawlessly in all cases.

Interesting that I hear RH does, and Mandrake already is supposed to have this particular update available via their installer.

Yes, I do understand the wish but it just isn't doable.

'Sorry to hear that. Fred -- "Ballmer is no more designed for the art of persuasion than the Abrams tank is for delivering meals on wheels."

Anders Johansson [Sun, 18 Jul 2004 01:47:50 +0200]:

Does that mean the versions included are guaranteed to work flawlessly in all cases?

I *knew* something like this was bound to appear in this thread as soon as I reread my answer ;-)))) Yes, we do not guarantee it, but we do try to make sure that programs work as expected after having applied a bug fix. And it's hard enough to handle bug fixes that affect more than one package for these isolated fixes. Doing this for version updates would quickly amount to an insane amount of work. Philipp