[opensuse] default kde fonts, 10.1 vs. 10.2
Hello all: I have started playing with opensuse 10.2. I noticed that the default kde TT fonts are different from those in SUSE 10.1. As in kde control center the names of the default TT fonts are Sans Serif on both systems I don't know which are the exact fonts that 10.1 and 10.2 uses, respectively. Where can I find this and how I could change it? I want the same fonts on 10.2 that were default on 10.1. TIA, IG ___________________________________________________________________________________[origo] klikkbank - Internetes banki ügyintézés és hiteligénylés a nap 24 órájában! http://www.klikkbank.hu -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 28 December 2006 11:11, Istvan Gabor wrote:
As in kde control center the names of the default TT fonts are Sans Serif on both systems I don't know which are the exact fonts that 10.1 and 10.2 uses,
fc-match "Sans Serif" Bye, Steve -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
As in kde control center the names of the default TT fonts are Sans Serif on both systems I don't know which are the exact fonts that 10.1 and 10.2 uses,
fc-match "Sans Serif"
Thanks. In both 10.1 and 10.2 it gives: ~> fc-match "Sans Serif" arial.ttf: "Arial" "Regular" Still the fonts look different and their size are different. Now I will study this fontconfig thing maybe I will get the clue, why. Cheers, IG __________________________________________________________________________ Beír, talál, OKÉ! OK.hu az [origo]-tól: tucatnyi magyar kereső egyben, hogy még többet láss! http://www.ok.hu -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, 2006-12-29 at 18:53 +0100, Istvan Gabor wrote:
As in kde control center the names of the default TT fonts are Sans Serif on both systems I don't know which are the exact fonts that 10.1 and 10.2 uses,
fc-match "Sans Serif"
Thanks. In both 10.1 and 10.2 it gives: ~> fc-match "Sans Serif" arial.ttf: "Arial" "Regular"
Still the fonts look different and their size are different. Now I will study this fontconfig thing maybe I will get the clue, why. Cheers, IG
Not sure if you are using KDE, but I had an issue and this advice corrected it (copied from an earlier thread in this list): Go into your anti-aliasing config in kcontrol to set hinting to something other than full might fix it. -- Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems AB Ramböll Sverige AB Kapellgränd 7 P.O. Box 4205 SE-102 65 Stockholm, Sweden Tel: Int +46 8-615 60 20 Fax: Int +46 8-31 42 23 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2006/12/28 11:11 (GMT+0100) Istvan Gabor apparently typed:
I have started playing with opensuse 10.2. I noticed that the default kde TT fonts are different from those in SUSE 10.1. As in kde control center the names of the default TT fonts are Sans Serif on both systems I don't know which are the exact fonts that 10.1 and 10.2 uses, respectively. Where can I find this and how I could change it? I want the same fonts on 10.2 that were default on 10.1.
Rearranging the config files so that the families are in the same order should fix you up, assuming you have the same fonts installed. SUSE 10.1 /etc/fonts/fonts.conf (portion): <alias> <family>sans-serif</family> <prefer> <family>Bitstream Vera Sans</family> <family>Verdana</family> <family>Arial</family> <family>Albany AMT</family> <family>Luxi Sans</family> <family>Nimbus Sans L</family> <family>Helvetica</family> SUSE 10.2 /etc/fonts/suse-post-user.conf (portion): <alias> <family>sans-serif</family> <prefer> <family>Arial</family> <family>Albany AMT</family> <family>Verdana</family> <family>DejaVu Sans</family> <family>SUSE Sans</family> <family>Bitstream Vera Sans</family> <family>Nimbus Sans L</family> Note that the configuration of both specifies that "Sans Serif" be aliased to "sans-serif", so fc-match "Sans Serif" will return the same result as fc-match "sans-serif". Note too that DejaVu is an improved superset of Bitstream Vera, so if you preferred Vera in 10.1, you probably want DejaVu at the top of your list, followed by Vera, then the rest. My personal opinion is that Arial does not belong at the top of a generic sans-serif alias list. -- "Let your conversation be always full of grace." Colossians 4:6 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Felix Miata wrote:
On 2006/12/28 11:11 (GMT+0100) Istvan Gabor apparently typed:
I have started playing with opensuse 10.2. I noticed that the default kde TT fonts are different from those in SUSE 10.1. As in kde control center the names of the default TT fonts are Sans Serif on both systems I don't know which are the exact fonts that 10.1 and 10.2 uses, respectively. Where can I find this and how I could change it? I want the same fonts on 10.2 that were default on 10.1.
Rearranging the config files so that the families are in the same order should fix you up, assuming you have the same fonts installed.
SUSE 10.1 /etc/fonts/fonts.conf (portion): <alias> <family>sans-serif</family> <prefer> <family>Bitstream Vera Sans</family> <family>Verdana</family> <family>Arial</family> <family>Albany AMT</family> <family>Luxi Sans</family> <family>Nimbus Sans L</family> <family>Helvetica</family>
SUSE 10.2 /etc/fonts/suse-post-user.conf (portion): <alias> <family>sans-serif</family> <prefer> <family>Arial</family> <family>Albany AMT</family> <family>Verdana</family> <family>DejaVu Sans</family> <family>SUSE Sans</family> <family>Bitstream Vera Sans</family> <family>Nimbus Sans L</family>
Note that the configuration of both specifies that "Sans Serif" be aliased to "sans-serif", so fc-match "Sans Serif" will return the same result as fc-match "sans-serif".
Note too that DejaVu is an improved superset of Bitstream Vera, so if you preferred Vera in 10.1, you probably want DejaVu at the top of your list, followed by Vera, then the rest.
My personal opinion is that Arial does not belong at the top of a generic sans-serif alias list.
Thank you for the above re-ordering of the file for 10.2. What a nice difference it has made to what now appears on the screen :-) . Cheers. -- In a period of great joy and pleasure you are comforted by the thought that tragedy is just around the corner. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2006/12/30 16:47 (GMT+1100) Basil Chupin apparently typed:
Felix Miata wrote:
On 2006/12/28 11:11 (GMT+0100) Istvan Gabor apparently typed:
I have started playing with opensuse 10.2. I noticed that the default kde TT fonts are different from those in SUSE 10.1. As in kde control center the names of the default TT fonts are Sans Serif on both systems I don't know which are the exact fonts that 10.1 and 10.2 uses, respectively. Where can I find this and how I could change it? I want the same fonts on 10.2 that were default on 10.1.
Rearranging the config files so that the families are in the same order should fix you up, assuming you have the same fonts installed.
SUSE 10.1 /etc/fonts/fonts.conf (portion): <alias> <family>sans-serif</family> <prefer> ... SUSE 10.2 /etc/fonts/suse-post-user.conf (portion): <alias> <family>sans-serif</family> <prefer> ...
Thank you for the above re-ordering of the file for 10.2. What a nice difference it has made to what now appears on the screen :-) .
I didn't do it. :-p Do you actually prefer having Arial at the top of the list instead of Vera Sans or DejaVu Sans or Nimbus Sans L? http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/auth/Font/font-helvetica-clones.html http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/auth/Font/font-helvetica-suse.html -- "Let your conversation be always full of grace." Colossians 4:6 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Felix Miata wrote:
On 2006/12/30 16:47 (GMT+1100) Basil Chupin apparently typed:
Felix Miata wrote:
On 2006/12/28 11:11 (GMT+0100) Istvan Gabor apparently typed:
I have started playing with opensuse 10.2. I noticed that the default kde TT fonts are different from those in SUSE 10.1. As in kde control center the names of the default TT fonts are Sans Serif on both systems I don't know which are the exact fonts that 10.1 and 10.2 uses, respectively. Where can I find this and how I could change it? I want the same fonts on 10.2 that were default on 10.1.
Rearranging the config files so that the families are in the same order should fix you up, assuming you have the same fonts installed.
SUSE 10.1 /etc/fonts/fonts.conf (portion): <alias> <family>sans-serif</family> <prefer> ... SUSE 10.2 /etc/fonts/suse-post-user.conf (portion): <alias> <family>sans-serif</family> <prefer> ...
Thank you for the above re-ordering of the file for 10.2. What a nice difference it has made to what now appears on the screen :-) .
I didn't do it. :-p Do you actually prefer having Arial at the top of the list instead of Vera Sans or DejaVu Sans or Nimbus Sans L?
No, I have never liked Arial. I put DejaVu followed by Bitstream as 1 and 2 in the list. Cheers. -- In a period of great joy and pleasure you are comforted by the thought that tragedy is just around the corner. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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