[opensuse] Two HP devices - compatibility question
Hi, I wander about Leap compatibility of these two devices: - HP LaserJet Pro MFP M28nw (T6B80A), or - HP LaserJet Pro M452nw (CF388A). Is there anyone on this list who can share some user experience? The first one is multifunctional and I wander very much about scanning part. Never used scanner on network before. Vendor pages are not clear on Linux support, neither on printing nor on scanning side. The second looks like more serious hardware. It's just printer (no MF) and vendor pages suggest that OpenSUSE is supported. I checked on https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Hardware, and found nothing about these devices. Can anyone confirm that any of these teo work on Leap? TIA & best regards, Radule
On 16/10/2018 10.01, Radule Šoškić wrote:
Hi,
I wander about Leap compatibility of these two devices: - HP LaserJet Pro MFP M28nw (T6B80A), or - HP LaserJet Pro M452nw (CF388A).
Is there anyone on this list who can share some user experience?
The first one is multifunctional and I wander very much about scanning part. Never used scanner on network before. Vendor pages are not clear on Linux support, neither on printing nor on scanning side.
I tested recently an "HP LaserJet Pro MFP M278" which I wonder if it is similar to your "MFP M28nw". I googled, and the photo is different. It is smaller, has WiFi but perhaps not ethernet cable. Probably not dual side. The MFP M278 I tried prints fine in Linux, once I updated hplip from the "OBS: Printing" repo. I did not try to scan on Linux, but I found out that on Windows it scans at 300 dpi only. If you plug an USB stick, it can scan and save on the stick directly, which is a failsafe if finally scan in Linux fails. The page I'm looking at (<https://intercompras.com/p/multifuncional-hp-laserjet-pro-m28nw-x-dpi-ppm-usb-adf-hojas-145432>) says it copies at 600 x 400 dpi BW, which is better than the 300x300 I tested. Interstingly, the technical paper at hp doesn't list the resolution (http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c05550216). I do not find the "HP LaserJet Pro MFP M28nw" at the hp site, though. Maybe it depends on country. Is it BW, not colour, perhaps?
The second looks like more serious hardware. It's just printer (no MF) and vendor pages suggest that OpenSUSE is supported.
It seems to be this: <https://support.hp.com/us-en/product/hp-color-laserjet-pro-m452-series/7326532/model/7326533> but I can't locate the technical characteristics pdf. The "product information" tab has no specific information brochure :-/ Maybe this one: <https://support.hp.com/us-en/product/hp-color-laserjet-pro-m452-series/7326532/model/7326533/document/c04824430> Non duplex. Ethernet. No USB port. No WiFi print server (I guess this means no direct print from phone, which is cute). The control panel is not "touch".
I checked on https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Hardware, and found nothing about these devices.
No, look printers on this site: <http://www.openprinting.org/printers> <http://www.openprinting.org/printers/manufacturer/HP> The M28 is not listed. The 452 is considered "paperweight". <http://www.openprinting.org/printer/HP/HP-Color_LaserJet_Pro_M452dn> However, there is another site: <https://developers.hp.com/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing/supported_devices/index> M28nw is not listed, but other variations are. The M452nw is listed, full support. Scan to PC, no. Well, that's definitive. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.3 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
Sorry for top posting! I mistyped the name of the first device. The coorect names are: - HP LaserJet Pro MFP M280nw (T6B80A) - HP LaserJet Pro M452nw (CF388A). The rest of OP unchanged. Radule On 10/16/18 3:10 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 16/10/2018 10.01, Radule Šoškić wrote:
Hi,
I wander about Leap compatibility of these two devices: - HP LaserJet Pro MFP M28nw (T6B80A), or - HP LaserJet Pro M452nw (CF388A).
Is there anyone on this list who can share some user experience?
The first one is multifunctional and I wander very much about scanning part. Never used scanner on network before. Vendor pages are not clear on Linux support, neither on printing nor on scanning side.
I tested recently an "HP LaserJet Pro MFP M278" which I wonder if it is similar to your "MFP M28nw". I googled, and the photo is different. It is smaller, has WiFi but perhaps not ethernet cable. Probably not dual side.
The MFP M278 I tried prints fine in Linux, once I updated hplip from the "OBS: Printing" repo. I did not try to scan on Linux, but I found out that on Windows it scans at 300 dpi only. If you plug an USB stick, it can scan and save on the stick directly, which is a failsafe if finally scan in Linux fails.
The page I'm looking at (<https://intercompras.com/p/multifuncional-hp-laserjet-pro-m28nw-x-dpi-ppm-usb-adf-hojas-145432>) says it copies at 600 x 400 dpi BW, which is better than the 300x300 I tested. Interstingly, the technical paper at hp doesn't list the resolution (http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c05550216).
I do not find the "HP LaserJet Pro MFP M28nw" at the hp site, though. Maybe it depends on country.
Is it BW, not colour, perhaps?
The second looks like more serious hardware. It's just printer (no MF) and vendor pages suggest that OpenSUSE is supported.
It seems to be this: <https://support.hp.com/us-en/product/hp-color-laserjet-pro-m452-series/7326532/model/7326533> but I can't locate the technical characteristics pdf. The "product information" tab has no specific information brochure :-/
Maybe this one: <https://support.hp.com/us-en/product/hp-color-laserjet-pro-m452-series/7326532/model/7326533/document/c04824430>
Non duplex. Ethernet. No USB port. No WiFi print server (I guess this means no direct print from phone, which is cute). The control panel is not "touch".
I checked on https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Hardware, and found nothing about these devices.
No, look printers on this site:
<http://www.openprinting.org/printers>
<http://www.openprinting.org/printers/manufacturer/HP> The M28 is not listed.
The 452 is considered "paperweight".
<http://www.openprinting.org/printer/HP/HP-Color_LaserJet_Pro_M452dn>
However, there is another site:
<https://developers.hp.com/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing/supported_devices/index>
M28nw is not listed, but other variations are.
The M452nw is listed, full support. Scan to PC, no.
Well, that's definitive.
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On 16/10/2018 15.19, Radule Šoškić wrote:
Sorry for top posting!
I mistyped the name of the first device. The coorect names are:
- HP LaserJet Pro MFP M280nw (T6B80A) - HP LaserJet Pro M452nw (CF388A).
The rest of OP unchanged.
Ok, the M280nw is listed by hplip people as fully supported, including scan to PC. But not listed by openprinting. It is similar in looks to the MFP M278 I tried. I don't see the scan resolution on HP page. Ah, yes, 300x300. 1200x1200 on flat surface. Oh? maybe means the auto feeder scans at 300 only. (I don't post the link, I got it in Spanish) I think it is a good purchase. I would go for this one or similar. Mind: it is big. The only fault I find is that the resolution of the scanner is not big. Note: The OCR software it comes with, in Windows, is very good. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.3 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
On 10/16/18 3:10 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 16/10/2018 10.01, Radule Šoškić wrote:
Hi,
I wander about Leap compatibility of these two devices: - HP LaserJet Pro MFP M28nw (T6B80A), or - HP LaserJet Pro M452nw (CF388A).
Is there anyone on this list who can share some user experience?
The first one is multifunctional and I wander very much about scanning part. Never used scanner on network before. Vendor pages are not clear on Linux support, neither on printing nor on scanning side.
I tested recently an "HP LaserJet Pro MFP M278" which I wonder if it is similar to your "MFP M28nw". I googled, and the photo is different. It is smaller, has WiFi but perhaps not ethernet cable. Probably not dual side.
The MFP M278 I tried prints fine in Linux, once I updated hplip from the "OBS: Printing" repo. I did not try to scan on Linux, but I found out that on Windows it scans at 300 dpi only. If you plug an USB stick, it can scan and save on the stick directly, which is a failsafe if finally scan in Linux fails.
The page I'm looking at (<https://intercompras.com/p/multifuncional-hp-laserjet-pro-m28nw-x-dpi-ppm-usb-adf-hojas-145432>) says it copies at 600 x 400 dpi BW, which is better than the 300x300 I tested. Interstingly, the technical paper at hp doesn't list the resolution (http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c05550216).
I do not find the "HP LaserJet Pro MFP M28nw" at the hp site, though. Maybe it depends on country.
Is it BW, not colour, perhaps?
The second looks like more serious hardware. It's just printer (no MF) and vendor pages suggest that OpenSUSE is supported.
It seems to be this: <https://support.hp.com/us-en/product/hp-color-laserjet-pro-m452-series/7326532/model/7326533> but I can't locate the technical characteristics pdf. The "product information" tab has no specific information brochure :-/
Maybe this one: <https://support.hp.com/us-en/product/hp-color-laserjet-pro-m452-series/7326532/model/7326533/document/c04824430>
Non duplex. Ethernet. No USB port. No WiFi print server (I guess this means no direct print from phone, which is cute). The control panel is not "touch".
I checked on https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Hardware, and found nothing about these devices.
No, look printers on this site:
<http://www.openprinting.org/printers>
<http://www.openprinting.org/printers/manufacturer/HP> The M28 is not listed.
The 452 is considered "paperweight".
<http://www.openprinting.org/printer/HP/HP-Color_LaserJet_Pro_M452dn>
However, there is another site:
<https://developers.hp.com/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing/supported_devices/index>
M28nw is not listed, but other variations are.
The M452nw is listed, full support. Scan to PC, no.
Well, that's definitive.
Carlos, thank you very much for your answer. I'll check the links that you pointed to, for the correct name (m280). As I said in another post, m28 was my mistake in typing. Best regards, Radule
On 17/10/18 12:30 am, Radule Šoškić wrote:
On 10/16/18 3:10 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 16/10/2018 10.01, Radule Šoškić wrote:
Hi,
I wander about Leap compatibility of these two devices: - HP LaserJet Pro MFP M28nw (T6B80A), or - HP LaserJet Pro M452nw (CF388A).
Is there anyone on this list who can share some user experience?
The first one is multifunctional and I wander very much about scanning part. Never used scanner on network before. Vendor pages are not clear on Linux support, neither on printing nor on scanning side. I tested recently an "HP LaserJet Pro MFP M278" which I wonder if it is similar to your "MFP M28nw". I googled, and the photo is different. It is smaller, has WiFi but perhaps not ethernet cable. Probably not dual side.
The MFP M278 I tried prints fine in Linux, once I updated hplip from the "OBS: Printing" repo. I did not try to scan on Linux, but I found out that on Windows it scans at 300 dpi only. If you plug an USB stick, it can scan and save on the stick directly, which is a failsafe if finally scan in Linux fails.
The page I'm looking at (<https://intercompras.com/p/multifuncional-hp-laserjet-pro-m28nw-x-dpi-ppm-usb-adf-hojas-145432>) says it copies at 600 x 400 dpi BW, which is better than the 300x300 I tested. Interstingly, the technical paper at hp doesn't list the resolution (http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c05550216).
I do not find the "HP LaserJet Pro MFP M28nw" at the hp site, though. Maybe it depends on country.
Is it BW, not colour, perhaps?
The second looks like more serious hardware. It's just printer (no MF) and vendor pages suggest that OpenSUSE is supported. It seems to be this: <https://support.hp.com/us-en/product/hp-color-laserjet-pro-m452-series/7326532/model/7326533> but I can't locate the technical characteristics pdf. The "product information" tab has no specific information brochure :-/
Maybe this one: <https://support.hp.com/us-en/product/hp-color-laserjet-pro-m452-series/7326532/model/7326533/document/c04824430>
Non duplex. Ethernet. No USB port. No WiFi print server (I guess this means no direct print from phone, which is cute). The control panel is not "touch".
I checked on https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Hardware, and found nothing about these devices. No, look printers on this site:
<http://www.openprinting.org/printers>
<http://www.openprinting.org/printers/manufacturer/HP> The M28 is not listed.
The 452 is considered "paperweight".
<http://www.openprinting.org/printer/HP/HP-Color_LaserJet_Pro_M452dn>
However, there is another site:
<https://developers.hp.com/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing/supported_devices/index>
M28nw is not listed, but other variations are.
The M452nw is listed, full support. Scan to PC, no.
Well, that's definitive.
Carlos, thank you very much for your answer. I'll check the links that you pointed to, for the correct name (m280). As I said in another post, m28 was my mistake in typing.
Best regards,
Radule
Have you checked out the cost of the toner cartridges and their availability? BC -- "One of the wettest we've ever seen from the standpoint of water". Donald Trump's observation on Hurricane Florence, 19 September 2018. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 17/10/2018 08.51, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 17/10/18 12:30 am, Radule Šoškić wrote:
On 10/16/18 3:10 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 16/10/2018 10.01, Radule Šoškić wrote:
Have you checked out the cost of the toner cartridges and their availability?
Good point. One of the links I found at the HP site listed the exact part numbers of the toner cartridge the printer would accept. And they are expensive. Looking again at the "HP LaserJet Pro MFP M280nw" printer, a 203X cartridge (black) is 116.90€ at HP site ((3200 pages). The 203A cyan cartridge is 92.90€ (1300 pages; the 203X cyan makes 2500 pages). The site warns that the printer has a security feature that blocks usage of third party cartridges that do not have a certain chip. Security feature, they say. Also "anti-fraud technology". The HP site lists a bunch of possible cartridges in different capacities: 1400 pages, 3500, or 3200. The printer comes with "courtesy" cartridges with half capacity. I'm looking at the Spanish site: <https://store.hp.com/SpainStore/Merch/Product.aspx?id=T6B80A&opt=B19&sel=PRN> -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.3 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
Thank you Carlos, Basil, You really helped a lot. See my answers down inline. On 10/17/18 12:16 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 17/10/2018 08.51, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 17/10/18 12:30 am, Radule Šoškić wrote:
On 10/16/18 3:10 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 16/10/2018 10.01, Radule Šoškić wrote:
Have you checked out the cost of the toner cartridges and their availability?
Yes, I've checked it even before narrowing my list. I checked local prices of new and "recycled" cartridges (third party). I also checked the capacity - number of pages printed per cartridge. Also, I have some unofficial info from local services on how often these devices are got repaired. I only missed the info on Linux (Leap) compatibility/support. :) Looking at HP page that Carlos pointed me to, it seems that both are OK with Linux. At least equally OK.
Good point.
One of the links I found at the HP site listed the exact part numbers of the toner cartridge the printer would accept. And they are expensive.
Looking again at the "HP LaserJet Pro MFP M280nw" printer, a 203X cartridge (black) is 116.90€ at HP site ((3200 pages). The 203A cyan cartridge is 92.90€ (1300 pages; the 203X cyan makes 2500 pages).
I've noticed that printed page capacity of m452 is approximately twice better comparing to mfp280. This makes it cheaper in longer time expenses. No scanning/copying though. Here where I live, the two are selling at same prices, so initial cost is equal. Later, mfc280 will spend twice more cartridges comparing to m452. And cartridges for them do not differ much in price,
The site warns that the printer has a security feature that blocks usage of third party cartridges that do not have a certain chip. Security feature, they say. Also "anti-fraud technology".
I am aware of that.
The HP site lists a bunch of possible cartridges in different capacities: 1400 pages, 3500, or 3200.
The printer comes with "courtesy" cartridges with half capacity.
I am aware of that. I've seen that on many printers.
I'm looking at the Spanish site: <https://store.hp.com/SpainStore/Merch/Product.aspx?id=T6B80A&opt=B19&sel=PRN>
Best regards, Radule
On 17/10/2018 13.20, Radule Šoškić wrote:
Thank you Carlos, Basil,
You really helped a lot. See my answers down inline.
On 10/17/18 12:16 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 17/10/2018 08.51, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 17/10/18 12:30 am, Radule Šoškić wrote:
On 10/16/18 3:10 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 16/10/2018 10.01, Radule Šoškić wrote:
Have you checked out the cost of the toner cartridges and their availability?
Yes, I've checked it even before narrowing my list. I checked local prices of new and "recycled" cartridges (third party). I also checked the capacity - number of pages printed per cartridge. Also, I have some unofficial info from local services on how often these devices are got repaired.
I only missed the info on Linux (Leap) compatibility/support. :) Looking at HP page that Carlos pointed me to, it seems that both are OK with Linux. At least equally OK.
Good point.
One of the links I found at the HP site listed the exact part numbers of the toner cartridge the printer would accept. And they are expensive.
Looking again at the "HP LaserJet Pro MFP M280nw" printer, a 203X cartridge (black) is 116.90€ at HP site ((3200 pages). The 203A cyan cartridge is 92.90€ (1300 pages; the 203X cyan makes 2500 pages).
I've noticed that printed page capacity of m452 is approximately twice better comparing to mfp280. This makes it cheaper in longer time expenses. No scanning/copying though. Here where I live, the two are selling at same prices, so initial cost is equal. Later, mfc280 will spend twice more cartridges comparing to m452. And cartridges for them do not differ much in price,
Here, official prices for cartridges for m452 are more expensive, about double for the colour ones: 174,91€ 410X black (~6.500 pages) 234,90€ 410X cyan (~5.000 pages) 234,90€ 410X yellow 234,90€ 410X magenta The 410A makes 2300 pages. Those would cost similarly as the MFP cartridges, I guess.
The site warns that the printer has a security feature that blocks usage of third party cartridges that do not have a certain chip. Security feature, they say. Also "anti-fraud technology".
I am aware of that.
I'm unsure my older HP printer has that, I do not remember reading about that feature in that clear text. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.3 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
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