I'm recent pruchased a new PC with a single SATA drive. I was unable to install SUSE to this PC using the default install. Every install attempt resulted in a GRUB error on the initial boot after the first CD. Changing the bootloader from GRUB to LILO fixed the problem and resulted in a successfull install. I'm concerned that I could not install SUSE with the default settings. It appears that SUSE, and the Linux community prefers GRUB and that GRUB is a more powerful bootloader than LILO. I do not plan on having any other OS on this PC other than SUSE. Should I be concerned that I could not use GRUB? What is the downside to using LILO instead of GRUB ? Any advise or comment would be appreciated. Matt
On Wednesday 02 November 2005 09:39 am, Matt Stamm wrote:
I'm recent pruchased a new PC with a single SATA drive. I was unable to install SUSE to this PC using the default install. Every install attempt resulted in a GRUB error on the initial boot after the first CD. Changing the bootloader from GRUB to LILO fixed the problem and resulted in a successfull install.
I'm concerned that I could not install SUSE with the default settings. It appears that SUSE, and the Linux community prefers GRUB and that GRUB is a more powerful bootloader than LILO. I do not plan on having any other OS on this PC other than SUSE.
Should I be concerned that I could not use GRUB?
What is the downside to using LILO instead of GRUB ?
Any advise or comment would be appreciated.
Matt
I have installed 10.0 on a machine with a SATA drive... an Intel motherboard -- so the problem must lie either with your hardware situation or possibly your BIOS settings for IDE/SATA. It is possible that the SATA drive switched position (numbering) when the system rebooted.. and that a grub setting might cure the boot problem.
On Wednesday 02 November 2005 9:39 am, Matt Stamm wrote:
Every install attempt resulted in a GRUB error on the initial boot after the first CD. Changing the bootloader from GRUB to LILO fixed the problem and resulted in a successfull install.
Should I be concerned that I could not use GRUB?
What is the downside to using LILO instead of GRUB ?
With respect to the other posters, the main difference between LILO and GRUB is that LILO is effectively a scaled down Linux kernel where GRUB is its own code. Both install code into the boot block of the hard disk. In the case, of GRUB, it then loads its stage2 code which reads the /boot/grub/menu.lst (or grub.conf). LILO must be reinstalled everytime you change the kernel. While GRUB is the newer tool, I don't think that LILO will go away any time soon. -- Jerry Feldman <gaf@blu.org> Boston Linux and Unix user group http://www.blu.org PGP key id:C5061EA9 PGP Key fingerprint:053C 73EC 3AC1 5C44 3E14 9245 FB00 3ED5 C506 1EA9
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Wednesday 2005-11-02 at 06:39 -0800, Matt Stamm wrote:
Should I be concerned that I could not use GRUB?
I don't think so, not really. I find lilo easier to understand, but grub is more confortable... when it works.
What is the downside to using LILO instead of GRUB ?
That you need to run 'lilo' after doing any change to the bootloader configuration or a kernel update or change. Grub doesn't need that. Grub can read directly from the filesystem, so it can read the menu and other files directly during boot. On the other hand, lilo can not do that, it needs a map to find those things it needs being compiled before hand (by running the 'lilo' command). - -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFDaQSItTMYHG2NR9URAsBCAJ0d8Dm3FboavWfyRE4UobUgV0nZbwCeIQr7 ipwehfUlwxTfmU8n7/tsosI= =Wf1x -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Wed, 2005-11-02 at 06:39 -0800, Matt Stamm wrote:
I'm recent pruchased a new PC with a single SATA drive. I was unable to install SUSE to this PC using the default install. Every install attempt resulted in a GRUB error on the initial boot after the first CD. Changing the bootloader from GRUB to LILO fixed the problem and resulted in a successfull install.
I'm concerned that I could not install SUSE with the default settings. It appears that SUSE, and the Linux community prefers GRUB and that GRUB is a more powerful bootloader than LILO. I do not plan on having any other OS on this PC other than SUSE.
Should I be concerned that I could not use GRUB?
What is the downside to using LILO instead of GRUB ?
Any advise or comment would be appreciated.
When you do a kernel update with lilo as the boot loader you need to drop to a shell and issue the command (as root IIRC) /sbin/lilo. ON the plus side, if you were doing a multi-boot machine, you can actually choose which OS to reboot into.
On 11/2/05, Mike McMullin <mwmcmlln@mnsi.net> wrote:
On Wed, 2005-11-02 at 06:39 -0800, Matt Stamm wrote: ON the plus side, if you were doing a multi-boot machine, you can actually choose which OS to reboot into.
Since 9.3, you can do this with GRUB too. When you logoff the user, if you hold pressed the restart button, it'll let you choose. -- -- Svetoslav Milenov (Sunny)
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