Hi everyone, I am running 8.1 and using CUPS to print. Whenever I try to print landscape from an application (Mozilla, KView, etc.), the output prints in portrait. According to the SuSE support database, the solution is to add the following command to the application: sed -e 's/Orientation: Landscape/Orientation: Portrait/' | lpr I added this command to Mozilla (Print Command within Print Properties), and it works fine. But I do not know WHERE to enter this command in the various K-applications (KView, KWrite, etc.). Does anyone know where to enter this command to be able to print landscape in K-applications such as KWrite? Thanks very much. Dom -- ______________________________________________ http://www.linuxmail.org/ Now with POP3/IMAP access for only US$19.95/yr Powered by Outblaze
On Fri, 27 Dec 2002 06:39, Dom Incollingo wrote:
Hi everyone,
I am running 8.1 and using CUPS to print. Whenever I try to print landscape from an application (Mozilla, KView, etc.), the output prints in portrait. According to the SuSE support database, the solution is to add the following command to the application:
sed -e 's/Orientation: Landscape/Orientation: Portrait/' | lpr
I added this command to Mozilla (Print Command within Print Properties), and it works fine. But I do not know WHERE to enter this command in the various K-applications (KView, KWrite, etc.). Does anyone know where to enter this command to be able to print landscape in K-applications such as KWrite? Thanks very much.
Dom Hi,
Just ran into the same problem. I took a chance and updated to the new experimental Cups drivers and looks like the problem is fixed. Don't know if there are any problems with these drivers. Testing of new CUPS versions for SuSE Linux 8.1 http://sdb.suse.de/sdb/en/html/jsmeix_print-cups-testversion-81.html -- Regards, Graham Smith ---------------------------------------------------------
* On Thursday 26 December 2002 04:29 pm, Graham Smith wrote:
On Fri, 27 Dec 2002 06:39, Dom Incollingo wrote:
Hi everyone,
I am running 8.1 and using CUPS to print. Whenever I try to print landscape from an application (Mozilla, KView, etc.), the output prints in portrait. According to the SuSE support database, the solution is to add the following command to the application:
sed -e 's/Orientation: Landscape/Orientation: Portrait/' | lpr
I added this command to Mozilla (Print Command within Print Properties), and it works fine. But I do not know WHERE to enter this command in the various K-applications (KView, KWrite, etc.). Does anyone know where to enter this command to be able to print landscape in K-applications such as KWrite? Thanks very much.
Dom
Hi,
Just ran into the same problem. I took a chance and updated to the new experimental Cups drivers and looks like the problem is fixed. Don't know if there are any problems with these drivers.
Testing of new CUPS versions for SuSE Linux 8.1 http://sdb.suse.de/sdb/en/html/jsmeix_print-cups-testversion-81.html
------------------------------------ Hi folks, Graham seems to have found the solution as the new cups, 1.1.18 does indeed allow landscape printing from all KDE applications. For Mozilla, just change the printing properties to "kprinter --stdin" and you will get the standard KDE print requestor to make whatever changes are needed. Here is the site to get the new CUPS files for SuSE 8.1, but remember these are just test files, kinda like Mantel's kernel files, so they may not work for you. Everything seems to work for my setup and I believe Graham found they worked ok for him. YMMV!! Go to the site Graham recommends above first and follow the install instructions suggested by that article. Don't forget to run /sbin/SuSEconfig after installing all the files! Here's the site: ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/ftp.suse.com/people/kssingvo/unsupported/CUPS/8.1/RPMS Good Luck and Happy New Year! Patrick --- KMail v1.4.3 --- SuSE Linux Pro v8.1 --- Registered Linux User #225206
On Thu, 26 Dec 2002 21:23:04 -0500 PL O'Smith <penguin0601@earthlink.net> wrote:
http://sdb.suse.de/sdb/en/html/jsmeix_print-cups-testversion-81.html
Hey Patrick, how are you. I'm finally going to get around to installing the latest cups thing you mentioned on the list. Basic question again though: Do I uninstall all the other rpms first... cups-libs, cups-client, and cups (I guess in reverse order of above) before I do the install of the above packages? or could I just install them and Linux does it's thing in updating automatically? I'm sure you answered this before, but I forgot:) I'll probably talk to some next year unless you get this tonight:) My inlaws are still here and my wifes hanging out with them in the other room so I'm free for a bit:) -- Rick
On Wed, 1 Jan 2003 16:15, Rick Reumann wrote:
On Thu, 26 Dec 2002 21:23:04 -0500
PL O'Smith <penguin0601@earthlink.net> wrote:
http://sdb.suse.de/sdb/en/html/jsmeix_print-cups-testversion-81.html
Hey Patrick, how are you. I'm finally going to get around to installing the latest cups thing you mentioned on the list. Basic question again though: Do I uninstall all the other rpms first... cups-libs, cups-client, and cups (I guess in reverse order of above) before I do the install of the above packages? or could I just install them and Linux does it's thing in updating automatically? I'm sure you answered this before, but I forgot:)
I'll probably talk to some next year unless you get this tonight:) My inlaws are still here and my wifes hanging out with them in the other room so I'm free for a bit:)
It may be best to remove them. You can delete them all at once, although you have to ignore the dependancy messages which will come up. You will also have a couple of dependancy problems with the cups drivers complaining about being the wrong version. Just ignore them. I have installed the updates on two computers now without any problems. -- Regards, Graham Smith ---------------------------------------------------------
sorry fellow suse-ians, this was meant as a private message. Didn't mean to waste the bandwidth with the dribble about the inlaws:) On Tue, 31 Dec 2002 21:15:17 -0800 Rick Reumann <maillist@reumann.net> wrote:
On Thu, 26 Dec 2002 21:23:04 -0500 PL O'Smith <penguin0601@earthlink.net> wrote:
http://sdb.suse.de/sdb/en/html/jsmeix_print-cups-testversion-81.html
Hey Patrick, how are you. I'm finally going to get around to installing the latest cups thing you mentioned on the list. Basic question again though: Do I uninstall all the other rpms first... cups-libs, cups-client, and cups (I guess in reverse order of above) before I do the install of the above packages? or could I just install them and Linux does it's thing in updating automatically? I'm sure you answered this before, but I forgot:)
I'll probably talk to some next year unless you get this tonight:) My inlaws are still here and my wifes hanging out with them in the other room so I'm free for a bit:)
-- Rick
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On Thursday 26 December 2002 14:39 pm, Dom Incollingo wrote:
I am running 8.1 and using CUPS to print. Whenever I try to print landscape from an application (Mozilla, KView, etc.), the output prints in portrait. According to the SuSE support database, the solution is to add the following command to the application:
sed -e 's/Orientation: Landscape/Orientation: Portrait/' | lpr
I added this command to Mozilla (Print Command within Print Properties), and it works fine. But I do not know WHERE to enter this command in the various K-applications (KView, KWrite, etc.). Does anyone know where to enter this command to be able to print landscape in K-applications such as KWrite? Thanks very much.
Wow... if that's how technologically advanced CUPs is... I guess I will never be using CUPs. That's absurd! -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + Bruce S. Marshall bmarsh@bmarsh.com Bellaire, MI 12/26/02 17:43 + +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ "Windows and Windows95, the REAL "Dumb and Dumber."
* Bruce Marshall (bmarsh@bmarsh.com) [021226 14:47]: ::On Thursday 26 December 2002 14:39 pm, Dom Incollingo wrote: ::> I am running 8.1 and using CUPS to print. Whenever I try to print ::> landscape from an application (Mozilla, KView, etc.), the output ::> prints in portrait. According to the SuSE support database, the ::> solution is to add the following command to the application: ::> ::> sed -e 's/Orientation: Landscape/Orientation: Portrait/' | lpr ::> ::> I added this command to Mozilla (Print Command within Print ::> Properties), and it works fine. But I do not know WHERE to enter this ::> command in the various K-applications (KView, KWrite, etc.). Does ::> anyone know where to enter this command to be able to print landscape ::> in K-applications such as KWrite? Thanks very much. :: ::Wow... if that's how technologically advanced CUPs is... I guess I will ::never be using CUPs. That's absurd! Remember that Mozilla isn't a KDE app and therefore it is only slightly controlled by the settings of KDE. Mozilla takes it's hints (as stupid as it may seem) from Gnome because it is a GTK based application. If you want to change the way a KDE application prints it's quite easy and CUPS supports all of this. CUPS even supports changing how GTK apps such as Mozilla print, but KDE isn't going to be very good at controlling it..hence the .js files that control Mozilla's behavior. I know this is still a bit of a failing/strength depending on how one looks at it. The above command can most likely be integrated into a user.js file in ~/.mozilla but I don't know where to put it. If you check out this screen-shot you will see that CUPS when controlled by KDE doesn't have any issues printing in Landscape or Portrait. http://whack.org/~ben/screenshot-print-settings.jpg It's not a failing of CUPS..but the failing of the various camps that produce GUI applications in the UNIX/Linux world. It's getting better but it can be a painful growth for some people. -- Ben Rosenberg ---===---===---===--- mailto:ben@whack.org Tell me what you believe.. I'll tell you what you should see.
On Thursday 26 December 2002 18:07 pm, Ben Rosenberg wrote: <goodstuff snipped>
It's not a failing of CUPS..but the failing of the various camps that produce GUI applications in the UNIX/Linux world. It's getting better but it can be a painful growth for some people.
But whatever happened to the idea that the 'printing situation' should be totally independent of the application... and .PS files were a good means of keeping things separate. Then let the print server (aka LPRng or whatever) handle the translations of .PS into whatever is needed for the particular printer. I really, really don't like the idea of having to diddle with all kinds of apps just so they play nice with CUPs... I thought CUPs was better than that.. -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + Bruce S. Marshall bmarsh@bmarsh.com Bellaire, MI 12/26/02 18:16 + +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ Murphy's Ninth Corollary: "Nature always sides with the hidden flaw."
* Bruce Marshall (bmarsh@bmarsh.com) [021226 15:19]: ::On Thursday 26 December 2002 18:07 pm, Ben Rosenberg wrote: :: ::<goodstuff snipped> :: ::> It's not a failing of CUPS..but the failing of the various camps that ::> produce GUI applications in the UNIX/Linux world. It's getting better ::> but it can be a painful growth for some people. :: ::But whatever happened to the idea that the 'printing situation' should be ::totally independent of the application... and .PS files were a good ::means of keeping things separate. Then let the print server (aka LPRng ::or whatever) handle the translations of .PS into whatever is needed for ::the particular printer. :: ::I really, really don't like the idea of having to diddle with all kinds ::of apps just so they play nice with CUPs... I thought CUPs was better ::than that.. CUPS is just fine and is a very good system. KDE interfaces with it to control KDE applications and Gnome interfaces with it to control Gnome/GTK based applications. As I said in the other email. This isn't a failing of CUPS, but a failing of those who work on GUI desktops and their applications under Linux/UNIX. If Gnome and KDE had better bridges between them then this wouldn't occur. So again it's not a failing of CUPS but of the GUI interfaces. It's how these top level applications interface with the printing system that makes the difference. -- Ben Rosenberg ---===---===---===--- mailto:ben@whack.org Tell me what you believe.. I'll tell you what you should see.
On Thursday 26 December 2002 18:59 pm, Ben Rosenberg wrote:
CUPS is just fine and is a very good system. KDE interfaces with it to control KDE applications and Gnome interfaces with it to control Gnome/GTK based applications. As I said in the other email. This isn't a failing of CUPS, but a failing of those who work on GUI desktops and their applications under Linux/UNIX. If Gnome and KDE had better bridges between them then this wouldn't occur. So again it's not a failing of CUPS but of the GUI interfaces. It's how these top level applications interface with the printing system that makes the difference.
You blame the GUI's, I blame the design architecture of CUPs. We agree to disagree. -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ + Bruce S. Marshall bmarsh@bmarsh.com Bellaire, MI 12/26/02 19:22 + +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ "The slower you drive, the farther you get. -- Russian proverb"
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