On Sat, 5 Sep 1998, Michael Lankton wrote:

I would encourage any list members using hotmail not to do so on this list. Most of my spam comes from hotmail accounts and I'm finally adding the whole domain to my email filter. I'm sure I'm not the only one who has a spam problem.

Are you sure the spam is actually coming from hotmail or does it only have hotmail forged into the 'from:' line? I have found that most of my spam that says it comes from hotmail doesn't actually come from there and I have found hotmail to have the most aggressive policy on the Internet for terminating the accounts of spammers. Most of my spam actually comes from uu.net dial-ins. I only wish uu.net were half as good as hotmail at terminating accounts. Dwight - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e

Hi! Trying to kill the keyboard, mlankton@home.com produced:

I would encourage any list members using hotmail not to do so on this list. Most of my spam comes from hotmail accounts and I'm finally adding the whole domain to my email filter. I'm sure I'm not the only one who has a spam problem.

You could either put this list onto the white-list (will pass your filter no matter what) or really check the headers. Actual spams from hotmail are scarce (I don't remember ever seeing one). Many spammers do add fake hotmail routinely headers. Hotmail has been cooperative in spam with their headers forged, and they cancel accounts if they might be used as a spammers dropbox. (And this M$-Shop runs on Solaris :-)) They have also antispam measurements: (quote from their "The account you reported HAS BEEN CLOSED" standard mail, reformated) +990f these [reported accounts] are forged header addresses in spam NOT SENT BY OR THROUGH Hotmail. We employ tough spam counter-measures: 1) We severely LIMIT the number of individual recipients allowed per each email, making Hotmail ineffective for spam. 2) Any Hotmail username beginning with a NUMERIC character is a forgery. 3) We include "X-Originating-IP: [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx]" in the header section of each email we deliver; if email doesn't contain this line in the full header, it DIDN'T come from Hotmail. [...] (end quote) If you are interested in some routines tracing the real origin of a mail message, you might want to look at AdComplain (a good spam tracing and reporting tool in Perl) (<A HREF="http://www.rdrop.com/users/billmc/adcomplain.html"><A HREF="http://www.rdrop.com/users/billmc/adcomplain.html</A">http://www.rdrop.com/users/billmc/adcomplain.html</A</A>>) -Wolfgang -- PGP 2 welcome: Mail me, subject "send PGP-key". If you've nothing at all to hide, you must be boring. Unsolicited Bulk E-Mails: *You* pay for ads you never wanted. Is our economy _so_ weak we have to tolerate SPAMMERS? I guess not. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e